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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | 87 collectors
I know this is on the short list of a few of our members....needs a little work so might be a steal for someone looking to make a grab! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | I'll watch the auction, but if I'm going for the OFC'er, my wife would kill me for buying this. Too bad, because it is on my very short list (along with an FD14). Oh well.... next year. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987
Location: Upper Left USA | Focus, Paul, focus!
The best way to resist GAS is to focus on an upcoming GASP - Guitar Aquisition Serious Purchase. If you can coordinate this with a WHAP (Wife Has Another Plan), as it seems you have, it is best to stick to the strategy. In fact, I think you have hit on the motherload of situations better known as Somehow Her Idea Too!
Stay the course Buddy!
That is a nice guitar though! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | The trade off for the OFC'er is that my wife is getting granite countertops in the kitchen. There's always a balance in these things..... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | I feel your pain, Paul. Went out with my wife to pick out panelling for our cabin remodel last night. Came home with a patio table, chairs and a bunch of other stuff, but not the panelling. If a wife can buy something just because it's on sale, we ought to be able to buy any guitar on ebay because it's on sale. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mark, I would assume that as an attorney, you would be good at argueing your case! ;) |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | There's no pain Mark. I feel fortunate in that I have as many wonderful guitars that I do. Not bad for a guy with only 3 chords.... |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 1817
Location: Minden, Nebraska | Just looked, and since no one else had made a move... I did. I am not deeply committed, so no one who really wants an 87 need hold back on my account. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | If nobody else bids, it will be a really awesome deal at $400. Good luck Paul. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Stephen,
The assumption about winning an argument is probably correct. But you never win an argument when the judge is on the other side.
I actually have a blessed life. Wife is using her inheritance to pay for the cabin remodel, although the cost overruns have used that up. She supports my Porsche habit, just insisted that I get a different shade of red this time. I could go on and on, but it's more fun to whine. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | I do know of somebody who's watching this auction (not me) and it would be good for his perception of Ovations to get it...... |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 69
Location: Massachusetts | Getting another guitar is always a challenge with a wife around who is agenda challenged! But, I got by it this time with my wife by turning to her and saying, " Say Happy Birthday, Baby!"
Hey at $75 bucks, I figure, I'm a pretty cheap date anyway.
LOL
Frets |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | I bought one for Valentine's day, one for my birthday and 2 at the end of May. One didn't come till Father's Day, so that was OK, but the other one, all I could come up with was my daughter's graduation. Didn't go over too well. Anniversary in 2 weeks. That has been tried and failed. Even tried the trade for jewelry, but she doesn't seem to agree that guitars are way more useful and beautiful than diamonds.
Try, "Shall I get a new Porsche or a new guitar."
My problem there is she knows I don't really want a new Porsche and she wants mine if I get a new one. |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 1817
Location: Minden, Nebraska | I have been outbid, so someone from this board needs to go get this guitar now. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Somebody from the OFC needs to keep this in the family. Looks like it might be a great deal for someone.
The '87 collectors is an awesome sounding guitar....maybe slightly better than the 1537's. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | we'll see...
later a trip to the factory and a little TLC...
we'll see... |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
| Watching it carefully, 15 hours to go and still within my limit |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | GN, this would be a great one to get! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Nick;
If you don't GRAB this one, you're a f(. . . . ah, . . let's not go THERE again!!!) :D
G'Luck!
(Hope y'get it) |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Nick....I agree. I hope you can get it.
Not only that, it would be easy to move if you wanted to sell.
Also Nick....we have been passing around a large format book call "The History of Ovation". As the book moves around we add our own Ovation history and pass it on. Perhaps you would like to have this book come to you for a turn? The only commitment you have to make is to mail it to the next person on the list when you are done with it.
If you are interested, look for the "Is the book still on the move?" thread. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Tried to send it to my wife's email address with a note, "Anniversary present?" but it didn't seem to go through. Our 28th is August 13, so that means 1987 was our 10th and as far as I recall, she didn't get me anything for that one. She's doesn't pick up on these hints very well. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | I think the 87 would be a perfect "first" Ovation for Nick. Absolutely brilliant that he went out and found it..... Hope he gets it. |
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Joined: August 2004 Posts: 604
Location: Tampa, FL | Originally posted by GN-Nick:
Watching it carefully, 15 hours to go and still within my limit Does this mean after it goes past Nick's limit ($500ish) we can all pile on? |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I dunno.....If the collective "we" want to give Nick a shot at it maybe "we" can give him a little wiggle room.
Besides...he might not keep it long...than again... |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | From the seller: It is simply just a binding repair. There are no inlays missing. Further, there is no damage to the neck. It is common for the binding to crack on guitars as they age and nothing else is wrong with this guitar I would not suggest sending it to Kaman/Ovation as they will charge alot more than the job is worth. It is just a small, 3 inch piece of binding.
Question seller's statement as to sending it to the factory and that it is "common" for binding to crack. It does appear that there may not be other damage to the neck. Personally, I would have it go to the factory for the TLC it deserves.
Sure, would like to see Nick (or other in the OFC) get it...problem is that I often see the OFC'er drop out at the last minute or the OFC'er be outbid by $5 when the guitar is worth more.
At same time, absurd to merely bid up the price if not a "need." |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
| mmmmmmmmm, GAS |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | I agree with Tony... some stranger is going to come along and grab this for 10 bucks over Nick's limit and some people are going to be kicking themselves in the butt. :(
I'll keep it in the family if it goes over. :D |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | It's as simple as this - bid how much you are absolutely willing to pay and willing to accept it if someone else bids $5 more. If you lose, don't blame the last minute stranger, blame yourself for not bidding higher. Bidding is like gambling and you have to know when to walk away. You assume you would have won it if you just bid $10 more, but in truth the winning bidder may have put in some astronomical maximum, you'll just never know. The '87 is a really nice guitar and you should just bid what you think it's worth to you. Dave |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | agree...guess that's why it is called an auction.
remember, these don't go cheap...got to be some wolves circling it as we speak.
for me, I have my abalone Elite thanks to Paul B. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Like they say in France....
K-Sara K-Sara....what will be will be. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Maybe Noah, Tony and Nick and email each other so they know where the limits are. Then one of them can make a sure grab of this great guitar.
Don't make me get involved!!!! :rolleyes: |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
Maybe Noah, Tony and Nick and email each other so they know where the limits are. Be careful, that's getting very close to violating ebay rules, not to say that it does not happen. Maybe a better idea is that Stephen just buy it put all others out of their anxiety. Dave |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | Stephen already has the '87 Burst Collector's from Sam.
I'll soon be receiving the Bearclaw from Sam.
I would love to see Nick grab this within his limit, but I believe this guitar is surely worth more than $500.
The summer is a time for great finds on eBay because so many people have other things happening.
I'm going to bid what I think it is worth if Nick gets outbid.
An '87 is on many short-lists, but this is a tight time for everyone. Home improvements, school for the kids, saving for the #47 (or OFC'r), etc, etc, are higher up on the lists.
I like the idea of keeping these treasures in the family where they can be passed on when the time is right. |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389
Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I'd bid the most I thought it was worth in the last half hour. And not a penny more. Don't get sucked into a bidding war. Even if you win, you'll lose. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | That's right... decide well in advance and then place your bid. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | The real gap in my collection is the lack of a quality multi-hole style guitar. But it won't be this one.
I do have the Booted Celebrity Elite model, but that don't count. However...it is one of a kind. ;) |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | If you see a bid by Osqueaki or lmprusy, that's my wife buying me an anniversary present. I'm not holding my breath. She did toss in $900 for a 1537 last spring for my birthday, but that was before a lot of other expenses came up. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
| Gentlemen, if you feel the need, please feel free to bid. I will certainly be bidding on this one, but don't let someone else walk away with it.
Not to be in collusion, but if you see the bidding go past roughly $550, I'm out.
Thanks for waiting though.
nick1961
oops, did I just sign off with my ebay ID?
Dammit. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | I just love pet names ... |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | I'm with you there, AngelEyes . . . . |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Thanks Longneck. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | In the calm before the storm here, please refresh my memory. Beyond this guitar being on the cover of "the book", what makes it so desirable? |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | I'm just a watcher...adoption agency only when I see the value and no one else "needs" it.
After playing my Custom Elite, I have to believe this is a "player." And a rare one. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | The 87 and the book guitar are different. Well as different as Kentucky cousins. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | I have never owned one, but have played an '87 and it was very sweet. The Book elite is different as Bill says. Not too different. To me the '87 sounds better, but the Book looks better. To each their own. Dave |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | The only one I ever saw/played was Bill's (& that was a wide-neck) . . . they ARE nice guitars . . . |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, I would love to put everyone out of their misery, but you KNOW where my money is going.
By the way....more info coming to suck you into the web! |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Just figured out I was sending the hints to my wife at the wrong email address. Corrected that and have to leave now. Good luck to the rest of you unless my wife decides to bid. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
| Bid away gents and ladies....
It's a beauty, but it's over $550 my self imposed limit. $500 plus my 10% wiggle room.
35 minutes left. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Sweet grab by Noah :D
You have learned well grasshopper :cool: |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Not a bad price for a great guitar. Hope it doesn't cost too much to fix the binding. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | Tony is known as the "adoption agency" ;)
I'm just a Foster Parent. :D
This way, I've been able to play different guitars and see what I like.
By the end of the year, I can see this '87 in the happy hands of another member. :eek:
I think it's just a timing issue for everyone. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | good job Bruce... |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | why thank you, but this was not a tough one to pull off... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Just looked in our email and found out my wife did put in a bid, but then she had to go to work. I'm really a lucky guy, even though she didn't get the guitar. |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 1817
Location: Minden, Nebraska | It would have been a better buy if the price hadn't been driven up. Steve Craig (craig121) already has at least one of the 87's, or did have.... At one time I believe he had the most complete collection in the country of the various Collectors' models, and if not was quite close. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Seems like there is always one person who doesn't need it that drives the price up from "incredible buy" to "excellent buy".
Bruce....don't be tying up the factory with your repairs. You know I got the adamas and the '05 collectors I need to send back! |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | The '87 is already in CT. It will be in repair before your two even get there.
I'm going to ask about having the epaulets on the ’92 Collector’s glued back down locally.
My other two can wait, along with every other Ovation owner’s repairs, until you tell us here that your two are done. :cool: |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | All those lprusy bids were my wife's. She didn't know Nick was going to go to $550 and I didn't think she'd bid on it. I think that 10th anniversary comment hit home. I better be nice to her on our upcoming 28th. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | Tell her you will settle for a 1537. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Not a bad compromise Mark. Use your skill of persuasion and get-r-done. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
By the way....more info coming to suck you into the web! I'd love to contribute but today there was a crack in my window and a fist full of money flew out. Headed somewhere in New Jersey. More info on that in a few weeks. Please don't tempt me. Dave |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | But I must....with maybe no cash up front :p |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Noah,
My wife already tried to get me a 1537 for my birthday, but got outbid at the last second. We need to get a few other bills paid before I feel good about "winning" an ebay auction. Like Dave, fists full of money keep flying out our windows, but not toward guitars. University of Portland, cabin remodel, kitchen cabinets, new garage...stuff like that. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | When the wife is ready, the 1537 will be waiting (if it has to go sooner, you get 1st chance at it).
Do you want pictures to hang up around the house? :eek: |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Noah,
Could you send me a full size picture? I put up another hanger on the wall that is empty because my daughter is using the Matrix. I'll hang the picture on the wall. I'm sure she'll get that hint. She'll probably want to reciprocate after her 50th birthday in October, if she doesn't get too depressed. I robbed the cradle, too, along with all my other sins.
Are you anywhere close to Napa Valley? That's where we're going the weekend of October 3. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Put the picture on a big, clear plastic jar with some loose change in the bottom (like the ones with pictures of the three-legged puppies that they put by the cash register) ;) |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | I just reread my last post and it sounds like I'm talking about my daughter turning 50. Obviously, the "she" I was referring to was the she who must be obeyed. Bad slip up, especially for a lawyer. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Of course, you realize that you've f^*@&%-up even WORSE by publically divulging your wife's age . . . . tsk, tsk, tsk . . . |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987
Location: Upper Left USA | Personally I have come to appreciate the lov'in of a woman in her mid-fourties. Had no idea it would be this good when I was in my twenties!
If I could just get her to play guitar... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Thanks for the tact lesson, Cliff. How about, she looks awfully good for a 50 year old with minimal cosmetic surgery? Is that better? She doesn't seem to be too concerned about people knowing how old she is. Maybe because she doesn't look that old. It's getting to the point where people wonder if I'm her father. I have to put in a few of those just in case she ever starts reading this board. |
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