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Location: Central Florida | Good review, Nick... Hey, I thought you were gonna mention my name... Just kidding! ;)
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Location: south east Michigan | I gotta wait til I get home. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Got it, Read it, Lived it, Loved it!
Great job Nick! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I'll get to it in the next day or two!!! |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I signed up a week or so ago but did not get it!!!!
It should have come by e-mail, right?
Somebody help me!!! |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
| did you reply to the "you must reply" email?
PM me your email if you'd like me to forward you a copy. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3410
Location: GA USA | I signed up on Saturday, and I got it. Good work.
Jeff, it was a fair trade... Nick didn't mention your name, but at least he didn't mention Cliff's either. |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 81
Location: Poplar Bluff Mo | Got it! Good work. You certainly have my respect and I suspect many other member of the OFC.
Buddy
1778 LX |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 863
Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
Jeff, it was a fair trade... Nick didn't mention your name, but at least he didn't mention Cliff's either. Good point... LOL!!! :D
Jeff |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Hmmm, I also signed up over 2 weeks ago and sent back the return but did not receive anything. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3410
Location: GA USA | It's probably nothing to worry about. You may just be one of the OFC members that's banned from GN for life. At least you tried. |
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| hah, no that's not it. We switched to a larger "better" faster sender and we are still working out the bugs.
I'll forward you a copy. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Nick....me to please
www.Brad@adifp.com |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| Nick; Post the link so everyone has no excuse not to see it.
Very Nice indeed
Randy |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
| unfortunately the newsletter isn't posted to the forum yet. I'll post a link when it is.
Brad, it's on the way. |
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Location: Massachusetts | great idea Randy! |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | I've spent a little time over at the GN sight. What's different about them is that they are not centered around one specific brand or discipline. They seem rather open minded (unless you pile on one of their moderators). |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | Here's the article:
NOTES FROM NICK
You know I was wrong. Hard to believe isn't it?
Well, I am admitting it in print. I made a huge mistake in
my article on buying a used guitar as seen here:
http://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=418
When I suggested that Ovations aren't a good choice, I made
a comment about plastic not aging as well as wood. Okay,
that was a cheap shot. Ovations aren't made of plastic,
they are made of Lyrachord, which is a mix of composite
materials.
That was my first mistake. Now, I want to make a 180
degree about face. Ovations aren't to be avoided as used
guitars. As a matter of fact they are an excellent choice.
How do I know this? Well, some Ovation owners took
exception with my comment and decided to help me make an
informed decision. What did I find out? Well, you can get
an amazing solid top Ovation guitar for dirt-cheap.
There was so much to learn, everything from cracking the
Ovation model number code to when does a mid-bowl case also
fit a deep bowl guitar. There's a bunch of friendly people
over at the Ovation forum that helped me make a decision on
a used Ovation. I gave them my criteria, less than $500,
solid top, great action, better acoustic tone than electric
and they helped me pick a guitar.
I ended up buying a 1968 Deluxe Balladeer. It was one of
the first 4500 Ovations made. This guitar has a solid
Sitka top, shiny bowl, fast action, and tone….like buttah
baby. And how much did I pay for this guitar? I shelled
out a mere $300.
Now I play this guitar all the time. I love it.
I don't know if you can call me a fanatic…..
….. BUT DON'T YOU DARE CALL IT PLASTIC.
And once again I segue into:
BURIED TREASURE OF THE INTERNET
Well how can you figure out this stuff? What makes a good
guitar in which particular brand? What should I look out
for with that particular brand? What models were made in
China, Korea, Mexico or the USA? Where can I get a good
deal?
First thing you should do is find a forum where the
fanatics, errr I mean experts dwell.
Be courteous and ask a bunch of questions, they'll be happy
to help.
Try some of these on for size.
http://www.ovationfanclub.com
http://www.larriveeforum.com
http://www.taylorforum.com/
http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=542897&NoCaches=Yes -(Tacoma Guitar forum)
http://www.fenderforum.com/
If you can't find what you are looking for above, try
googling, (or dogpile) guitar name and forum.
I mean I can't be right every time can I? |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13986
Location: Upper Left USA | Very nice Nick. The perfect balance of humility, valor, knowledge and name dropping(Us!).
Just enough to lead people to making up their own minds.
I accept the term Ovation Fanatic. We don't want a cure but we do hold regular meetings! |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 42
Location: Hernando Beach (Tampa area) | Hello to the forum!
I'll admit Eric Clapton probably will never call on me for backup, but I do know something about aircraft, and aircraft quality construction -- the next time someone calls your Ovation "plastic" simply strike a match and hold it under the bowl -- it is impervious to heat. The bowl is essentially the same fiberglass/carbon composite we used for radomes, wingtips, and any number of lightweight ultrastrong components. Unlike wood, it will not absorb sound, but projects it (I think that's what you would want in a guitar). Since it has little temperature degradation, it should remain in tune and de-tuning should be a function of string temperature and degradation instead of wood-warpage due to temperature or humidity -- and I would also think that a huge plus.
Have enjoyed reading your site.
Some of my flying:
http://www.golddredgervideo.com/matt/ferry.wmv |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13986
Location: Upper Left USA | Like so many of us, Ovations were conceived in the 60's, hit the peak of our "art" in the 80's and have found a new sense ourselves and our capabilities today. Looking ahead to what is next! |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| Now how's that for an interesting thread or two!
Nick is a by-god fair musician/author and that's worth a buck or two at the coffee shop.
I can't remember the last time anyone gave an Ovation a fair shake in the "personal Opinion" category.
Nice Job Nick, Glad you liked the old O you bought. Nice thing about it is if you get sick of it and want to sell it you could most likely do it right here on this site.
Only problem any of us should have with your article is the competition you may generate when looking for one of those nice older O's now.
All is well that ends well.
Nice plug for all the guitar web sites.
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by MWoody:
Looking ahead to what is next! Bifocals and loss of bladder control come to mind. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13986
Location: Upper Left USA | Depends... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Been there, done that, Dave. MWoody should put a little trademark symbol after Depends, but then it might not be quite so subtle.
As far as being called an Ovation Fanatic, I think "fanatic" is where the word "fan" comes from, so all of us are fanatics.
Great article by Nick. I'm starting to think that maybe I should start being more open-minded about those plastic cars--Corvettes. Nah. They don't age well (i.e. "rust"). |
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Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by MWoody:
Depends... On what? :D
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Location: Tampa, FL | On whether it's a verb or a noun. |
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Location: Massachusetts | Lol... the older I get the more I gotta go..
Great article and thanks Matt for a little of the science behind the art! |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Welcome Matt!
"welcome mat"....get it? get it? hehehe
Seriously...welcome aboard. It sounds like you know what your talking about. |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 42
Location: Hernando Beach (Tampa area) | "It sounds like you know what your talking about."
Well, I did stay at a Holliday . . .
Thanks for the kind welcome!
As I said, I am no expert in music and was reading the forums to figure out if anyone else experienced what I have going on. I'm trying to do a track for a new dvd and keep getting a click in the middle of it: http://www.treasuresites.com/Mattsolo1.mov
I recorded the track using my guitar plugged into a Roland Cube 60 then to an EDIROL UA-20 and into Garageband which exports it to Quicktime as a .mov (that may be the problem, since audio is 44 and video audio is 48 -- but I'm not sure since Quicktime seems to capture everything as .mov). I am running 10.4.2 Tiger. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 69
Location: Massachusetts | I hear the click. A buddy of mine and I recorded a CD together and every once in awhile we'd encounter a click. If you can isolate the click on the wav file, it may be possible to repair. There is a feature I used in Wavelab that "smooths" out clicks in 1 to 2 second chunks. I don't recommend any longer as it sounds weird after that. I think it picks up something (soooo technical) from the surrounding wave and kind of blurs it over. Imperceptible to most hearing. |
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Location: Hernando Beach (Tampa area) | Frets:
Thanks.
I just upgraded the OS to Tiger and it includes a new version of Quicktime. In the new, it evidently saves everything as a .mov file and if you transport it to web streaming or audio sound files there's a dropdown list and you simply hit Mpeg4 and it converts it. I'm not discounting I may have save setting to reset in Logic and Garageband as well. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | That sounds like a rendering overflow artifact.
Usually shows up when the software is rendering to a compressed format while recording, I've run into the same thing when trying to record into MP3.
I'm not familiar with garageband, but your best bet is to see if it will let you record as WAV or AIF, then convert to whatever afterwards.
Any pressure you can take off of the CPU while recording will reduce these kinds of errors.
Nice piece, by the way. |
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Location: Hernando Beach (Tampa area) | Thanks Waskel. I've picked up the 12-string after a 30+ year layoff . . . (just a twinkle of time to some here I'm sure). Still developing the piece.
You may be on to something as well -- GB gives compression ratios and I heavilly compressed that piece. I'll go back and re-record it multiple ways now and see where the artifact comes back (hey, it could simply be a loose cord rotating -- you never know). Anyway, back to the drawing board . . .
Happy playing. |
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Location: closely held secret | No, I listened to that spot 9 or 10 times - definitely an artifact.
Like I said, if you can make GB record to an uncompressed format, you should have no problems. If it won't, then turn the compression down as much as it will let you. Or find better software that will.
I realize that as a Mac user your options are limited... |
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Location: Hernando Beach (Tampa area) | "I realize that as a Mac user your options are limited..."
Although I'm not offended, I just talked to my computer and it is, and I understand you'll be hearing from its lawyer shortly . . . (oops, wrong thread).
GB, Logic, et al, lets you compress in many parameters, or none at all, aiff, wav, etc., can do -- should be a matter of playing with it now that I know what's going on. Agree it's definately an artifact. The piece is a long shot from the final product so I've got time to play around (I'll post what it was and the settings to avoid artifacts in GB/Logic when I'm done).
Happy playing. |
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Location: closely held secret | Everybody has their reasons for choosing whatever computer they have. My feeling has always been, if it does what you want it to for the price you want to pay, it's the right one for you.
The fact is, Mac users are limited in their selection of software. I think that's too bad, and probably one of the main reasons I don't have one.
I'd love to use Linux instead of windows too, but the hardware and software support just isn't there yet.
Someday. By then Gates will own copyright on any OS with an X in it's name... |
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Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida | Nice comeback Mr. Nick Torres...
Trying to put this back on topic...
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Mr. Torres,
Very well done. |
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Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | How can we check this out?
Jim |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
| It's posted a page back.
You can sign up here:
http://www.guitarnoise.com/newsletter.php |
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