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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 474
Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I'm going to start to record my practice sessions but have no experience with recording. I just ordered an entry level KORG 4 track recorder and now I'm looking for a decent microphone that won't break the bank. I would like to find one that would work well for both vocals or to mike my Ovations. Can one mike do it all, or am I going to have to get a couple of different ones for different applications? OK folks, "learn me up" on microphones... |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | A price range would help but a couple of mics under $200 that I really like for the price are the RODE NT1-A and the Studio Projects C1.
A cheaper all round performer would be the Shure SM58. |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 474
Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I was hoping to find a decent one for $100. or less. (but I don't want a piece of crap) I'll spend more if I have to. This is just going to be for home practice use. Nothing fancy by any means. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | If it is strictly for recording, you would go better with a mic that uses phantom power like the two I mentioned. Checking ebay you might be able to get the RODE or Studio Projects for close to $100 but I have never purchased a used mic on ebay before so I am not sure of the pitfalls (if any). |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | I'm pretty much with Stephen. The Rodents are a great bargain, but bear in mind the NT1-A is a condenser and needs phantom power. Either your Korg needs to provide it or you need to use a small mixer which does.
I think I would recommend the SM57 over the SM58. Both are industry standards, and both are great mics, but the 58's response is tailored more towards vocals. Either one would be a good choice.
This MXL package of 1 condenser and 1 dynamic for $130 would be a good bargain, as well. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | neumann |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Cool! Al sells Neumann's for $100? |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Put me down for a dozen :D |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 474
Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I just checked out those Neumann's... Just a bit more than I need. That is of course unless Al is selling them for $100.!!!!!!!!!! |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Shure SM58. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | I was gonna suggest just going with the SM58 as well. It's NOT an optimal "recording" mic and it's NOT really "the best" mic to use for guitar . . .
. . what it IS is a good, solid, utilitarian mic that can be gotten for about $100, and is built like a friggin' TANK. It's a good "starter" mic, and is a good basis t'build your collection as needs/resources progress.
Y'could use this mic to hammer-in your storm windows, chock the backwheel of your truck when it's jacked-up in the driveway, club the occasional errant bear, and STILL use it to serenade coyotes to a drunken version of "Auld Lang Syne" on NewYear'sEve . . . . |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| Hey Al...... could you set me up with a little info on those Mic's. Price sure is where most of us figure it should be... Wondering what models they have and the differences between them.
In your opinion what is the best Mic for Vocals, Amp, and acoustic Guitar applications. I want to experiment some more and All I have now is a Shure Sm58 & 57. I am quite used to these and they are fine but I am thinking I may do better with something else??????
I will also need a good Mic to get the bass notes out of my Bass amp as well but I have do my eyes on a few Bass drum Mic's that seem pretty good.
Mostly just practice but will be doing the recording thing in a while.
Just asking your views on these Microphones you sell?
Thanks Randy |
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Joined: August 2004 Posts: 604
Location: Tampa, FL | From Cliff: "Y'could use this mic to hammer-in your storm windows, chock the backwheel of your truck when it's jacked-up in the driveway, club the occasional errant bear, and STILL use it to serenade coyotes to a drunken version of "Auld Lang Syne" on NewYear'sEve . . . . "
Voice of experience? (at least the last two for sure ;) ) |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | All of the Above . . . |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | I could use a microphone for any of those things on Cliff's list before I would use it for recording. As far as I know, I'm the only person who wants to listen to me and I can hear me any time.
Nobody really wants to watch me golf, either, now that I think about it. |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413
| I just bought 2 condenser mikes, with shock mounts (elastic bands), brand new off fleabay for £11.90 each plus £5 shipping. Takstar.
I'm not holding out any great expectations, but I just had to take the risk.
You may be surprised to learn that they're Chinese. |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 613
Location: Zion, Illinois | Is your Korg that 4 track cassette? If so, you have 4 1/4 inch inputs. Most condenser mics need external power. Do you have a preamp with phantom power for condenser?
If not, I have a deal for you. A just-bought-it-this-year and used-it-only-a-couple-of-times Studio Projects B1 microphone AND a Presonus TubePre preamp (also new this year a only used a few times) that I'm willing to swap you for either a 1974 Glen Campbell 12-string or $125 + shipping.
Just let me know,
Bradley |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | sorry I don't sell neumanns but I use them
km 184
km 84
tlm 104
km 54 plus a few others
i also use beyers for my personal gig mics.
i can get shure senniheiser and akg all good mics |
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Joined: June 2005 Posts: 231
Location: N.J. | Hhhmm... For vox. I would try and go with the SM58 and for your guitar as well as an all purpose mic I would go with the SM57.As Waskel said the 58 is geared a little more toward voice as it seems to be a bit brighter,but for a general overall guitar mic in the lower price range the 57 has been used in countless studios.I must have about 4 57's and 2 58's and these have been dropped,knocked over,and god knows what else as I used to rent some of our gear out and those were the ONLY mics we let go.Unless ya ran over them with a truck,you could pretty much count on them coming back working! :D There is obviously better out there but for the price you'll have a good standard mic that will be able to get you some quality sounds. |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 474
Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I think I have decided on the SM57. It seems like a more "all around" mic, which is what I'm looking for to get started with. I'm just going to be using it with a low end 4-Track that only has 1/4" inputs.
Bradley-Thanks anyway but I want to keep this as low tech as I can for now...and oh yea, I don't think the 12 string trade would have worked! Ha Ha... |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | AFG, that Studio Projects B1 with Tube PreAmp is an OUTSTANDING DEAL on a mic that is much better than the Shure 57/58.
I would seriously consider the $125 offer from Bradley and jump all over it. A great setup with future growth potential at the price range you were looking for. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | That IS a good deal for the money . . . |
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 2503
Location: Fayetteville, NC | AFG, Fo rthe record I echo Stephen and cliff. Go for it, You won't be sorry. It is a much better Mic for recording. |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 122
Location: toneville USA | you also need a good mic preamp (and that you cannot get for around $100- no matter what anyone says).
i use a shure KSM32($225 on eBay; rare deal usually like $325ish)it is a very, very honest, open-sounding mic. it never sounded better than when i got my DBX586 tube preamp. which was not cheap...
KSM line is a great mic for the $$.
i pan the 32 with the undersaddle for a psuedo-stereo mix, it works well.
if you like a more focused sound, try a shure SM81- which is about the same $ as the KSM32 used. |
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 2503
Location: Fayetteville, NC | The Studio Projects Mics have been gaining popularity in recording studios in this area and in some radio production houses too. great condensor mics and since you can get a great deal from Bradley, you can't go wrong. you'll be really pleased. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7220
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I've been very happy with Studio Projects mics. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 176
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