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Location: SoCal | Don't quite know how to say this without embarassing people, but a tremendous kindness has been bestowed on me and without naming names and making people blush, I'll tell you what surprise yesterday left me speechless.
Yesterday, when picking up my mail, a guitar box from Ovation was presented to me. Contained an almost flawless 1987 Collectors. Now you all know that this guitar has been on my short list for a long long time.
One popped up on ebay last month and was purchased by a sneaky fool from this board who owns and operates an ark (but I won't mention any names). Seems that he and somebody else from this board (who lives in San Diego and is well known for his love of original Admaii and Custom Legend 30th Anniversary guitars -- but again, I won't mention any names), decided that this guitar needed to be in the hands of somebody who would truly appreciate it (enter a tall handsome fellow who doesn't just play a private investigator on t.v., and who only knows 3 chords but is always on the lookout for the 4th chord).
So they bought it, shipped it to more sneaky people at the mothership (who's name won't be released but his initials are J.B. and when you meet him just a couple of times, you feel like you've known him 30 years) who fixed some minor problems, but then decided that the neck of the guitar would be better served by being replaced, and came up with a replacement neck.
This guitar was then shipped to that certain p.i. who only stood there with his mouth open catching flys, for I'd say a maximum of 20 minutes. A letter was enclosed from the C*lm*an / Chr*st*es*n Guitar Adoption Agency (please note that I have cleverly blanked out parts of the names so that their identities will be kept secret) was enclosed asking if the guitar could stay with me for a while and then, down the road we could make it permenant if all were happy with the new home.
Well, suffice to say ("suffice it to say" is gramatically incorrect but everybody uses it -- I know this because "suffice" was one of my 9th grade student dictionary words, and some things stay with you forever), this guitar will stay here and the debt will be paid (very very happily) before it's expected with two benefits. First, my wife isn't complaining about me just buying another guitar and spending a lot of money. Thru the kindness of strangers, she can't say no to this one (YES!!!), and two by being able to pay for it over a few months, it becomes much more affordable to my pocket book, while still putting money away for the OFC'er.
All I can say is thank you. Last June, the people who were interviewed for the Ovation dvd while in CT, all compared notes as to their answer on one particular question "why did you come to the OFC gathering in CT"? All of us answered with the same answer, "Because of the people". We argue politics, we tell dirty jokes, we climb all over people we see as being mean or unfair, but this is a great group of people. I've been on both sides of the kindness thing, giving and receiving. It's a wonderful thing.
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | WOW. Kudos to the C*lm*an / Chr*st*es*n Guitar Adoption Agency for their kindness.
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Location: Orlando, FL | That is a great story! Congratulations on the guitar, but more importantly, congratulations on having great and caring friends! |
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Location: Montreal Canada | Sometimes this life is amazing and we are surrounded by the best and most carring people. Stories like that make me think humanity is not going to hell afterall.
Great stuff guys, keep up the amazing work. |
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Location: Evansville,IN | I'm sure whoever did this for you is feeling good about the experience of making someone very happy. :)
I feel the same way at Christmas time when my grandson opens his gifts. :)
It's unselfish acts like this that make life worth living. :) |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | I have been lucky enough to have received kindness like this form Mr. C*lm*an. In fact he is the reason I am Legend LX Fan. He had become a good friend, and I am thankful for the kindness he has shown me. :) |
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Location: south east Michigan | What a great story.
What an awesome surprise! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I can't wait to check my mailbox today ...
Dave
PS - Moody was so surprised by this he called me immediately upon getting the guitar. Do you know what it's like talking on the phone to someone with wet pants? I could not have been happier for him. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Enjoy it, it looked nice when I checked it out at the factory. I offered to sign the lable but they said, NO!, that it was owned by an important person and going to somebody else as a big suprise and they wouldn't dare chance lowering the value that much. |
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Location: Central Florida | Very nice indeed. I know how much you've wanted one of those, Paul... Enjoy! A beautiful gesture on the part of the C*lm*an / Chr*st*es*n Guitar Adoption Agency.
FYI, if anyone else is feeling altruistic out there, I really do miss the Deluxe Balladeer I "sacrificed" in order to convert a non-believer in Ovations to a believer... ;)
Congratulations, Paul, and nice job "mystery friends."
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Did I ever say thanks for all the help in getting me a guitar, answering all my questions, looking out for bargains on ebay?
Well just in case....
Thanks and congrats. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | Merry Christmas Paul. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I know those guys at the adoption agency. Even though I have never met either one personally, I have spent many enjoyable hours talking to both of them!
PAUL....make sure you bring it to the Southwest OFC gathering at Dave's place this fall. I look forward to meeting you, Dave, the agency and any other friends that Dave will allow into his adobe! |
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Location: SoCal | Paul, let Bruce take a couple of you and the guitar tomorrow :cool: |
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| Congratulations PI man! :)
Now when you get that LX Artist 12 fret you know where you have to send it. :D
And I feel like sh*t, but thanks for asking. |
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Location: SoCal | Hey Crip,
At least your "feeling". Beats the hell outta the alternative.
Now, I could be wrong, but I think you're tough enough to beat this thing.
I've posted a couple of pics into my gallery. I'm going to try to post a few of my GC DB later. |
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| Couldn't you try and look at least a little happy?
And learn a 4th chord?
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Location: south east Michigan | Very nice.
I really hope to play one of these someday so I can see (and hear) what all the fuss is about. |
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Location: Maryland, USA | Beautiful guitar...
Is that the one with Walnut sound holes? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Very sweet guitar Paul. What's left on the short list besides the OFC guitar and an FD14 (or does that cover it)? |
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Location: SoCal | Classic LX. I'm going for the OFC'er, and next year, if I can, I'll sell my Country Artist and one or two over things to get the Classic LX. The FD 14, well, maybe someday.....
But let's get real. If I never got another guitar, I'd still be as lucky as a man can be. |
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Location: Ottawa, Canada | I cut an pasted the bottom picture to Corel Draw, and try as I might, I was unable to clear the smile from your face! hehe
Kudos to you! Enjoy your former orphan...
Any chance those adoption folks are following this thread... If so, I lost out on a Lamborghini on Ebay... hint hint... :-)
Cheers
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Location: Upper Left USA | Paul,
If you want me to guess that guitar you have show the entire leg! :eek:
That guitar does look good on you! |
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Location: RI. That small State out East | When your smiling... When your smiling...
The whole world smiles with you...
Great guitar. Great story. Great club.
Way to go one and all.
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Location: East Tennessee | Great story. :)
Great looking guitar. :) :)
Greater Friends. :) :) :cool:
In 1989 My Father purchased and gave me a 1758 12 string Elite, I kind of know how you're feeling. I had the same grin on my face.
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Location: Vermont USA | Nice guitar Paul, God has blessed you so play to His glory.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Congrats! I had a long talk with that guy that owns an ark on Friday and he was so excited about this he spilled the beans. He really gets a lot of joy out of stuff like this, so it may be better to give than receive. Although I'd rather get the 87. In my case a 1537, but we're working on that.
His mother had a stroke last week, so he's got a lot on his mind. Hope all goes well for our not so secret friend. |
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Location: SoCal | Paulcc (I hereby dub you "Pauly". Don't ask why. In my mind, it fits).
Pauly, I played it this morning in church. Sounded great. Well, the guitar did. I sounded like, well, me.
Noah came to my church this morning (The Wondering Jew -- his hair musta been red before it went silver) and took pics. Hope to see them tomorrow. I was glad he was there for the 87's maiden voyage. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | I have been playing only Ovations in church since I was 14 years old. They always sound great. At the old church where I play we have a nice PA system. My Ovations really sound nice played through that. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Great story Moodypi, you deserve a break today (did I just plagiarize a stupid commercial slogan??)
Great people on this board!!
That's why I keep coming back even when I am tired.
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Location: SoCal | I arrived as the ladies and Paul were warming-up prior to the Contemporary Worship Service.
A new song required a 4th chord from Paul.
The ladies really had him sweating... they abandoned the new song.
For its debut, Paul shared his new ’87 at Worship Service the morning of August 21st, 2005.
Tony and I are so grateful to John, Kim, and their team.
Without their magic, we would not have been able to pull off this surprise.
It is beautiful and sounds as fantastic as it looks.
18 years ago, it would not have sounded this good.
Like a fine wine, aged to perfection.
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Location: GA USA | This is one long thread that I had to read every word of. Great stuff. I could show you pix of me playing my new O that I ordered from Al, except IT HASN'T COME YET. To be fair, he warned me that it might take up to 4 months and it's only been 1.5, but I am leading worship "all by my lonesome" next week, and it surely would be nice. I'll just enjoy it all the more when it gets here.
Oh, and I'm ready to go, since I just got a Hawaiian shirt... seems to be a prerequisite. Anyway, congrats, and admiration to you fine people. |
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Location: Vermont USA | Well Paul the guitar looks nice in that church one could say its fits the decor. Thanks for the new name it seems to ring well being Italian and all.
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Location: Maryland, USA | Originally posted by schroeder:
You can get a walnut hole? Oh this is the 1987 collector's **slaps self**.
But I believe there was an Elite called the Angel Step?(not sure angel something), and the wood surrounding the soundhole (sorry not the hole itself), was walnut. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Great Story and very Nice Guitar Moody.You are right. That The kindness shown on this board is amazing. |
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Location: SoCal | Noah, you told me on Sunday how good you were editing photos.... why did you add 20 extra pounds to me in those pictures? |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Beautiful guitar Moody. I know you will love it for a long time to come. Wait, I gota go, the mailman is coming down the street. Maybe he is bringing me an MOB, what a surprise that would be. :) |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | NIce...congrats man!
Enjoy! |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Calling Waskel!! Moody needs a "Slim Slipkid" job done on his picture. Urgent!! If he doesn't respond soon it must be Wabbit season or a new crate of carrots. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Ok, time out on all the love and brotherhood stuff and take a look at the songbook again. Houston, we have a problem!
Paul,
I can teach you at least two more chords buddy! Maybe even a couple in the second or third position, maybe. Oh the humanity!
This guy doesn't need another guitar, he needs lessons - Stat!
I charge $250 a day plus expenses ;) |
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Location: NJ | You'd THINK that all that prayer'd make him a better friggin' guitar player . . . . . |
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I had to make sure it wasn't a knot tying manual at first.
I guess when you come down to it, it's not what you know but who you know!
Very nice PM! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I thought that was a Photoshop job at first, till I looked at the original picture. I only looked at the guitar the first time. How are you ever going to learn more than 3 chords Moody, if you have a book that thick with only 3 chords in it? |
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Friends - L. Kudrow |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Don't need to Photoshop a picture when Moody puts his "Guitar Playing for Idiots" book right next to his guitar. I always thought he was kidding when he said he only knew 3 chords, but he's actually got a book on 3 chord arangements.
I was trying to figure which of the 3 he was playing in the pictures, but it didn't look like C, F or G to me, so it must not be a country western version of gospel music. |
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Oh?
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Location: Tennessee | "Anything more than three chords and it's jazz" -- Lou Reed.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Nothing we can say slandering Moody will wipe that smile off his face. I'm sure he's still loving the sound of all 3 chords. Maybe he'll learn a few more now, just to see how they sound on the 87.
The best part has to be a speechless wife. Mine would never believe that somebody would just send a guitar to me without getting money first. Although I did shut her up when she told me she just didn't get why I wanted a 1537 and I told her I didn't get why she had to have more than one piece of jewelry or new kitchen cabinets. I think she figured out that I could come up with a lot more examples. She was thrilled with her new kitchen cabinets, by the way. Maybe I'll go over to the kitchen cabinet fan club and see what they're doing. |
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He is on the "A" Team. :cool: |
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Location: SoCal | Unfortunatly, the three chords I learned were Eb (at the third fret), Ab, and Bb. Thanks god for capos, but boy, is it high pitched when I play in the key of G. |
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Any truth to the rumor? |
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I guess this would be payback for letting you have access to my FD14 for all those months :D |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Gee, Stephen T, I was thinking about a Lowden for me...
but honestly, with the 1537, Uterus and Fud, it's like long lasting pepto...I gots no GAS. Honestly, there is so much guitar in these three, I have no desire to get another (though a certain unnamed OFC miscreant is dangling such things as Lowdens and Fyldes just beyond my nose...but that's not important.)
So...
I'm thinking why not send my wooden roundback (see "Opics") on a little, multiple stop, indefinite, round trip OFC tour???
You wanna be the first?
It ain't gonna win any sound awards, but it got me through SE Asia and it sure is unique... |
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Location: SoCal | Does anybody here have the original owners manual/paperwork from an 87 Collectors? I'd love to get a copy. |
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The guitar is free . . . the manual's $800. |
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Location: SoCal | Had a surprise with the 87 in the last couple of days. As everybody here knows, I put mediums on everything I can. I like the feel and I like the depth. But I put mediums on the 87 last Saturday (Adamas mediums), and the guitar lost some of the briskness that it had when it arrived. When played hard, it had plenty of deep end, which I like, but when fingerpicking gently, it lost a lot of ressonance.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I never liked mediums. I always use magnums. I like the depth. With mediums I lose some of the briskness. When played hard there is plenty of deep end, but when fingerpicked I lose some of the ressonance. Dave |
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Location: south east Michigan | the guitar lost some of the briskness that it had That is exactly what happend when I put mediums on my AD-II. |
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Location: Central Florida | Paul,
This is just my opinion based on my own experience, but if you're trying to get back some of the "briskness" that was lost with the medium strings, you may be disappointed with the EXPs. I've got a set on my Elite right now and I don't care for them. They feel stiffer than the D'Add EJ16s I normally use eventhtough they're exactly the same guage. And they sound dead acoustically, no ring, no crisp high end. They sound okay plugged in, which is the only reason I haven't been in a hurry to change them out. Since these are the strings that are factory installed on new Ovations, it could be that I just got a bad set.
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Paul:
Since the topic of this thread is OFC kindness, I'll send you a set of Martin Bluegrass strings for your newly acquired '87 Collector's. They are regular bronze light/medium gauge (.012-.056). I think that the loss of brightness with medium strings is due to increased tension and it only really effects the high E, B and G strings. Try them out, for free.
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Location: GA USA | See there, Mitch! I was just thinking "Isn't this the OFC Kindness thread?" I had even looked to see if I was right, and then you go and bring it right back around.
Maybe we need a kindness section, where we try to out-kindness each other, though the one in this thread will be hard to match. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Yikes...with all of the goodness, kindness, and nicey-nice going on now, just wait till the holiday season gets here!!!! |
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Location: East Tennessee | I can hardly wait.
Strings are like a box of chocolates, You never know the sound until you try them.
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Location: SoCal | Got the strings Mitchrx sent and will put them on the 87 C tomorrow afternoon.
I put the EXP lights on both the 1537 and the 87, last Saturday. Both guitars sounded bright and very similar. The 87 has been played a lot since then. While it's a coated string, the EXP's on the 87 have lost a lot of that brightness. I'm surprised because Elixirs tend to hold one tone for a very long time. Playing the 87 next to the 1537 shows a real difference.
I'll let you know how the Martin Bluegrass strings sound (thanks very much Mitch -- very kind of you). After that, I've got a few sets of the new Elixirs, the phosper bronze strings coming and I'll try them.
Now, to pass along the kindness, I've got three sets of Adamas medium gauge strings that I'm not using. Anybody want them? I'm happy to send them to a worthy home. |
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Location: Burbank | Hey I'll take a set, it is time to change string anyway and I have been itching to try Adamas strings. |
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Location: SoCal | In the last 2 weeks of playing the 87 Collectors, I've tried 4 (I think) different sets of strings and have decided that this is not a bad guitar regardless of the strings. It sounds better plugged in than my 1537 (let's face it, the OP24 is one of the best preamps ever designed (even the OP Pro is a redesign of it, but with a tuner), and is just a joy to play. It's rapidly become my #1 instrument to pick up.
The strings tried have been D'Addario lights that came on the guitar (these could have been EXP lights, I don't know), then Adamas medium gauge, the EXP lights, then finally, Martin Bluegrass strings.
The Adamas mediums were just wrong. You had to play too hard to get the full sound out of them. I'm starting to re think my position of mediums. Lights bring out a crispness in the guitar. I replaced the Adamas strings with EXP lights. These are coated strings that should have lasted for ever. Oddly, after about a week and a half of a lot of playing, they started to sound dull. I replaced them last night with the Martins. They sounded great when new, but now, after playing for an hour in church and a lot of playing at home, the bass E is starting to go south.
The next strings I'm going to try are the Elixir phosper bronze lights. They should have a very bright full sound, and Elixirs last forever. I'll keep you posted. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | On the EXPs the windings are coating before they're put on the uncoated center core wire. The Elixirs are coated afterwords. |
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Location: Central Florida | Hey Paul,
Just a suggestion, but why don't you try a set of D'Addario EJ16s or Adamas light guages before you make a long range commitment to the Elixers? They're light guage, but deliver a lot volume, with punchy bass and nice crisp trebles. The D'Add EJ16s are the only strings I put on my six string O's. |
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Location: SoCal | Jeff, that's a good idea and I'll probably do that. FYI, the D'Addario's and the Adamas strings are the same strings, made by the same company.
This just seems to be a time of experimentation. It's a pain, but it's a good thing. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | i always come back to elixirs...
I'm going to try the new light gauge phos bronze elixirs on the lowden next time i change the strings. |
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Location: SoCal | Regarding the EXP's, it would seem to me that coating the strings before they are wrapped would only give them a limited life in that dirt still gets between the windings. Am I missing something? |
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Location: Omaha | I'm trying a set of Martin SP Fingerstyle Mediums on my 1777 Legend right now...they seem to be a good "fit," for lack of a better term: what I mean is, because of the scale of most Ovations (25.25"), the mediums don't feel as stiff, and these Fingerstyle strings are designed, according to Martin, to be more flexible, and I believe that to be true; they feel "lighter" than other mediums. Sound is excellent as well, like other SP strings. I've found the SP's to last as long as D'Addario's... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | The collectors 87 really shines when plugged in, simply a wonderful guitar. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | moodypi
My son gave me a set of Martin's for my ancient wooden acoustic and they sound great acoustically. I don't have a pickup on it, so I don't know how they would sound electrically, but acoustically they have held out quite well.
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Location: NJ | D'Add EJ16s. |
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Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
FYI, the D'Addario's and the Adamas strings are the same strings, made by the same company. I knew that about Adamas strings, which was why I included them in my post. I figured since this is the "Ovation Fan Club," I'd give the home boys a plug. ;) You're right, they really ARE the exact same strings. I've used both with identical results in tone and longevity. |
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