No pick guard
julesvan
Posted 2005-09-04 5:20 AM (#138376)
Subject: No pick guard


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Why do most Ovations not have a pick guard? My 6778lx doesn't but I am considering it to protect the guitar. Any suggestions on why not and where I could order a factory one?
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ignimbyte
Posted 2005-09-04 8:00 AM (#138377 - in reply to #138376)
Subject: Re: No pick guard


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Welcome to the OFC julesvan :)

With Ovations not having a pickguard, your guess is as good as mine. At that time, when I got my first and only O, to me the absence of the pickguard made the guitar's beautiful design and texture more visible. It was definitely pleasing to my eyes. Now the bottom part of the soundhole is filled with scratches from too much strumming action. I have since abandoned the idea of installing a pickguard, and (as I previously posted) accepted the scratches as some form of "mojo."

As for finding a pickguard, try these sites ... they just might customize one for you if you can't find what you're looking for.

http://pickguards.us/
and
http://store.pickguardfx.com/section.php?xSec=8

Good luck
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-09-04 8:14 AM (#138378 - in reply to #138376)
Subject: Re: No pick guard


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I'd look for a clear pickguard....one of the things that attracted me to Ovations is the beauty of the design WITHOUT a visible pickguard. Pictures of Ovations that have had Martin-type pickguards added......ugh........not a pretty thought.....

You probably can find a sheet of clear stick-on plastic and cut your own protective pickguard out of it.

Roger
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E.Sherman
Posted 2005-09-04 10:54 AM (#138379 - in reply to #138376)
Subject: Re: No pick guard


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For the most part, I started learning guitar on my Ovation celebirty. So from an early age, guitar wise, I learned to avoid hitting the top. Even when playing loud, hard, and fast I rarely graze the top.

I also like how thye look without the pickguard. Awhile back I got a 12 string balladeer from the 80's that has a pickguard on it...*shivers*. Problem is I probably can't take it off becuase there would be who knows how many years of difference in finish color between where the pickguard was and the rest of it.
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Beal
Posted 2005-09-04 2:19 PM (#138380 - in reply to #138376)
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The finish is hard enough that you usually don't need one.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-09-04 2:48 PM (#138381 - in reply to #138376)
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Even for older guitars, since the finish is a catalyzed polyester, pretty easy to buff out any scratches caused be a heavy pick. Swirl Remover #4 from StewMac takes it out in one pass.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-04 3:41 PM (#138382 - in reply to #138376)
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I think Ovation makes a big mistake by not putting pickguards on their guitars. Especially the black finish ones (my favorites) get a lot of pick scratches. As you can see below I have put a pickguard on my black Country Artist. Dave

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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-04 3:45 PM (#138383 - in reply to #138376)
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GORGEOUS!!!

Did you have those custom made??
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-04 3:49 PM (#138384 - in reply to #138376)
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I cut it myself with a Dremel tool. That's why it's a little ragged in some areas. But it does the job and I get a lot of positive comments about it. Dave
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-09-04 3:57 PM (#138385 - in reply to #138376)
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The ONLY Ovation I've seen that I can actually tolerate a pickguard on. Is that the "to-be-announced" Everly Brothers' edition????? ;)

Roger
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-09-04 4:19 PM (#138386 - in reply to #138376)
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It's amazing what can be done with photoshop and some time....
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-04 4:58 PM (#138387 - in reply to #138376)
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1... 2... 3... you know the rest.
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2005-09-04 5:01 PM (#138388 - in reply to #138376)
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What a crime, a pickguard on an Ovation. I have been playing for years, and have never put a scratch on my guitar with a pick.
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an4340
Posted 2005-09-04 5:09 PM (#138389 - in reply to #138376)
Subject: Re: No pick guard


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In case you haven't figured it out, the people here hate pick guards. I even removed mine from my tele (but put it on when I sold it. For some reason some people seem to like pick guards. Go figure.) If you wanna be cool bro', then no pick guard.
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Jeff
Posted 2005-09-04 6:53 PM (#138390 - in reply to #138376)
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I guess I'm just too traditional for my own good.

Personally, I'd never own an Ovation that had a pickguard. I even passed on a '72 Country Artist a few years back that was in otherwise pristine, mint condition, but the aftermarket pickguard sombody stuck on it killed it for me. On the other hand, I'd be hardpressed to own a Martin without one.
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alpep
Posted 2005-09-04 7:26 PM (#138391 - in reply to #138376)
Subject: Re: No pick guard


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if you need a pickguard you have bad picking technique
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-04 10:43 PM (#138392 - in reply to #138376)
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Originally posted by alpep:
if you need a pickguard you have bad picking technique
Then why does almost every acoustic guitar except Ovation come with a pickguard? Do all these other brands target buyers with bad picking technique?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-09-05 12:04 AM (#138393 - in reply to #138376)
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probably tradition...was done in the past and few want to make any radical change.

also, the O's have a far stronger finish to protect the wood (catalyzed polyester is a lot stronger than lacquer). the raised rosette (on most of the O's) also protects.
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alpep
Posted 2005-09-05 7:14 AM (#138394 - in reply to #138376)
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dave
have you ever seen a pickguard on a classical guitar?

your honor I rest my case.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-05 8:21 AM (#138395 - in reply to #138376)
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Al, As soon as I can fire up Photoshop you'll see a pickguard on a classical guitar (ha ha). But, I agree with you. My point was, does that fact that almost all acoustic gutars have pickguards mean that the makers recognize that 90% of the players in the world have bad technique? I agree with Tony, it's probably tradition more than anything. A Martin looks as bad without a pickguard as an Ovation does with one. Dave
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alpep
Posted 2005-09-05 9:40 AM (#138396 - in reply to #138376)
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Personally I think it started as a decorative idea.
With arch tops the top sort of buldges so maybe people thought it was necessary.
I think we can all trace it back to mother maybelle carter who had that scratch sort of playing and you got some percussive sound off the top with the fingers or picks on the top.

I still stand with my statement. If you have good technique you don't need a pickguard. I had lessons in college from a classical guitarist so I tend to hold my hands more in that manner, those big scratches you see on electric guitars are a real pet peeve of mine. it is just a lazy left hand and arm. it serves no effect on an electric but I can see some with an acoustic although it is not my preferred method
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an4340
Posted 2005-09-05 10:22 AM (#138397 - in reply to #138376)
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Peekguards, peekguards?! We don't need no steenkin' peeeekguards!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-09-05 10:27 AM (#138398 - in reply to #138376)
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I'm always amazed at the treble side epaulets of Ovations that have been shredded by bad picking.
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dmkozak
Posted 2005-09-05 1:13 PM (#138399 - in reply to #138376)
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Well, Willie Nelson doesn't have a pickguard and it's not like he's hurt his guitar any by not having a pickguard.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-09-05 3:37 PM (#138400 - in reply to #138376)
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Willie could use a pickguard to cover up that hole in the top. Guess it reminds him to watch where you walk when loaded. :eek:
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alpep
Posted 2005-09-05 7:26 PM (#138401 - in reply to #138376)
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willie is the perfect example of someone with horrible picking technique. he must be so high that it hurts to move his arm
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cliff
Posted 2005-09-05 7:40 PM (#138402 - in reply to #138376)
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". . Do all these other brands target buyers with bad picking technique? . ."


. . . well, . . now that you mention it . .
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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-09-05 7:42 PM (#138403 - in reply to #138376)
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Flat picking on a Nylon String guitar, no wonder he's got a hole dug out, on his guitar.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-05 8:52 PM (#138404 - in reply to #138376)
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no pick guard



nose pick guard
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