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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | There is a listing on ebay now for a very nice model 1777 Ovation Legend. In the description the seller says "I am upgrading to a Taylor, enough said". Do many people see a Taylor as an "upgrade" from an Ovation. I think the model 1777 Legend can hold its own against any Taylor. What is up with this "upgrade" stuff? :( |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Paul, his 1777 didn't deserve being owned by him anyway. Better it goes to someone who will appreciate it.
I have a 1777 and it's here for the duration.....
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Location: closely held secret | You're right Rog, he doesn't deserve it. He'll join the faceless crowd playing an overhyped, overpriced wooden box instead.
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Location: toneville USA | it's simply a matter of opinion. IMO, all guitars have pros and cons...the nicer the guitar, the fewer the cons. and by nicer, i mean better electronics, hardware, woods and appointments(not in that order necessarily).
acoustically, i own a martin and an ovation; D28 and 1778LX respectively. they both satisfy different needs of mine musically. if i could only have one, i'd take the D28. life wouldn't be the same w/o my ovation though...
but "arguing" brands of guitars is like fans of different sports teams arguing, ya know?
for some, a taylor may be an "upgrade" from an ovation, but someone else may feel a new ovaition is an upgrade from a taylor because they desire/like the "round sound". i feel they are really different animals though. to me an ovation is the ultimate electric/acoustic guitar because of it's punch and bite plugged in. unplugged i prefer wood overall, but i appreciate(and really dig) the unplugged tone of the roundback.
"upgrade" is a subjective word guitaristically speaking.
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Hal, I have a Martin also, and it's about to go find a new home via eBay. I like my Ovations so much better that it sits in the case. Even rosewood can't overcome that Ovation sound.
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Location: NYC | I have the Std. Elite LX, and it's one great guitar. I just sold my Taylor after having owned it a short time. I'm hoping to get another Ovation, probably the Legend LX. It'll keep another Ovation company, my '83 1117 Legend. I'm even considering an Adamas, though I don't know if I can swing that right now. Enough said! |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | NJ, you can't go wrong with a Legend LX. It is a fantastic guitar. :) |
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Location: NYC | I don't believe anyone could argue with that.
Has anyone tried the LX's with the new contour bowl? I prefer the mid-depth bowl to the deep bowl, but is the contour bowl sort of the best of both worlds? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I own the Custom Legend Contour Bowl. Incredible instrument. If you have the choice of contour bowl vs. std. bowl in the same instrument I can't imagine anyone would choose the standard. As far as I'm concerned, the contour bowl IS the new standard and the old round bowl is just an inferior relic. Dave |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | My humble opinion. The seller is right. The onnly Ovation that is as good or better than either a Taylor or a 50 years old Martin is the Adamas and the Elite.
Ovation is my brand of choice, so it hurts to say that but it the truth.
I think that Ovation should:
1- Start by stop making Ovatiions over seas.
2- Stop with that ridiculous "Aplause" or wahtever it's called sub-brand.
3- step it up in the construction of their lower level models.
Again this is just my opinion. I really don't want to offend anyone here. I am an Ovation fan.
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Location: NYC | Thanks for the input. I've recently been in a couple of local Guitar Centers, and they've always been pretty good about featuring Ovations, but I haven't seen a new contour bowl there yet. Hopefully, they'll get some in. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Ced:
The onnly Ovation that is as good or better than either a Taylor or a 50 years old Martin is the Adamas and the Elite. Wanna bet? I know what you're saying, but there are no such generalizations. There are Elite and Adamas guitars that sound like shit. There are also Taylor and 50 year old Martins that should like shit. The only valid comparison is an A-B mano-a-mano my guitar vs. your guitar. Btw, you need to hear some other Ovations - maybe a FD14, Shiny bowl Glen Campell, or '05 Collector.
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Location: closely held secret | I recently had an '83 tobacco-burst Legend pass through my hands that had some Taylor owners in our church nearly in tears playing it. I bought it off ebay for $300 for a friend who got converted playing my 1867, but wanted a deep bowl.
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| ..preach it, Ced preach it!...I was never a big fan of the aftermarket O's, but i understand they have their place...(i guess.. maybe...well, sort of...)
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Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by Standingovation:
Originally posted by Ced:
The onnly Ovation that is as good or better than either a Taylor or a 50 years old Martin is the Adamas and the Elite. Wanna bet? I know what you're saying, but there are no such generalizations. There are Elite and Adamas guitars that sound like shit. There are also Taylor and 50 year old Martins that sound like shit.
Dave
and to say that an elite or an admas is "better" than a 50 year old martin...c'mon here folks. :eek:
let's say a 1950's D28 with brazzy back and sides- that has been played and maintained properly...you cannot honestly believe an adamas or elite is even in the same ballpark...ther's a reason some of them covet $20K...i doubt there are many O's or A's that draw that much change.
and i gurantee you that in 50 years, nobody is gonna get $20K for a guitar with a plastic back...i don't care what the top is made of, carbon fiber or space-aged polymor...'cause it aint ever gonna mature like a wood gutiar will!fact of physics there guys.
i love my O...but guitars are like fine wines, and i don't expect my O to be something it's not. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I'll refer to my brothers here to take up this debate. To generalize so broadly about sound quality vs. what it costs, what it's made of, what name is on the headstock, etc. has about as much credibility as generalizing that all girls named Cindy are pretty. Trust me, they ain't. Dave |
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Location: NJ | ". . let's say a 1950's D28 with brazzy back and sides- that has been played and maintained properly...you cannot honestly believe an adamas or elite is even in the same ballpark..."
SPECIFICALLY, how many (and which) older Adamases have you actually heard/played? . . . |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | I'm sorry my post wasn't clear enough. What i wanted to say was, the only Ovation that COULD rival the Taylors or 50 years old martin are SOME Elite (by that i mean the 1993 Cedar version) and the Adamas.
As for the rest, well, i have owned an old martin that had holes in the body and had sit in a fire at one point that sounded better than any other accoustic i have ever heard, no matter what the price tag says. To illustrate, just think of WIllie Nelson's classical guitar. He found in a dunpster, i think or aomehting like that.
There's always a guitare here and there that is just outstanding for unknown reason. So we can't compare that.
Same for the reste. In my opinion, you can't compare a series guitar with a special edition or a custom made....etc
So if i want to compare Ovation and Taylor. You take their series models and you compare. Because i can asure you that a limited, sepcial edition, custom....etc Taylor will sound better than any custom made, special edition....etc Ovation (Adamas being Ovation is included). Still just what I think. Don't want to offend anybody specialy since I'm an Ovation fan.
Now listening to Jordan, I realised that it's been a while since i have had my Adamas serviced. Does anybody could recomend a good place. I just moved to Irvine California, and don't anything around here.
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Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by cliff:
". . let's say a 1950's D28 with brazzy back and sides- that has been played and maintained properly...you cannot honestly believe an adamas or elite is even in the same ballpark..."
SPECIFICALLY, how many (and which) older Adamases have you actually heard/played? . . . enough to know that it's comparing apples and oranges to a point. and i haven't seen any that someone is willing to pay $20K for...have you??but it's also like comparing say, a Ford Explorer to and Escalade.
both are nice, both do the job. one is clearly more expensive, for many more reasons than the name and that some people have more money to spend than the rest of us.
main reason being better construction, features and better materials.
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Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by Standingovation:
I'll refer to my brothers here to take up this debate. To generalize so broadly about sound quality vs. what it costs, what it's made of, what name is on the headstock, etc. has about as much credibility as generalizing that all girls named Cindy are pretty. Trust me, they ain't. Dave i knew this chick named cindy once...she was hot, untill she married a jerk that abused her and made her so depressed that she gained about 150 pounds... :p
not the same as she was when she was new... |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | One needs to define "better". It is entirely subjective. I've not heard a Taylor 6-string that I would take over one of the better Ovation products. I just don't care for the "open" sound.
Martins are a different kettle of fish, but I would still prefer an FD-14 (based on the one that I've heard/played) over almost any Martin. Although the better Martins, like the Rory Block OM-40, are quite superb.
I have a friend in Indiana whom I let play my 2002 Collectors, one of the laminated top "panelmasters", and she preferred it over two of her three Martins (the third being an over-$3000 Rory Block OM-40). And she LOVES Martins.
I agree with Dave, it comes down to guitaro-y-guitaro. One can't generalize "Taylors are better than Ovations" or vice-versa.
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Location: NJ | ". . and i haven't seen any that someone is willing to pay $20K for...have you?? . ."
No.
. . . but I'll sell ya' mine for ten. |
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Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by cliff:
". . and i haven't seen any that someone is willing to pay $20K for...have you?? . ."
No.
. . . but I'll sell ya' mine for ten. $10?...sweet. do you take paypal?? :p |
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Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida | Quoted from Standing O's post earlier in this thread....
"As far as I'm concerned, the contour bowl IS the new standard and the old round bowl is just an inferior relic. Dave"
With do respect for "Standing Ovation's" opinion of the Contour Bowl... I find the sharp contour on the top cuts into my ribs and is uncomfortable...
I compared the sound of the 2005ES with some other LX's hanging in my local GC and didn't hear a "huge" difference...
I'm surprised no one else has chimmed in on THIS: "and the old round bowl is just an inferior relic..." ! ! ! OUCH ! !! !
I still prefer the Deep Bowl sound, so I guess I am old school...
I can see how the contour bowl is more comfortable than a box guitar, but mid-depth obsolete, not for quite some time...
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | 10K hu? Sloth Head?
Hum, hum??????? Not a too bad deal. ;0) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I love Taylors. Never owned any, played a couple. The reason I love them is that a friend bought one for $2400 and told my wife, who recognized immediately that "Mark hasn't spent that much on all of his Ovations." He also spent a ton more on some amp I never heard of, which cost more than the Taylor.
Taylors make me look reasonable. I love them.
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | Oh yeah,
Like an old friend used to tell me when i was a kid: "Ced, it is not the guitar that makes the guitarist, it is the guitarist that makes the guitar".
Thank you very much
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Location: Boise, Idaho | My friend was a reasonably good musician and I assume he still is, although I haven't heard him play or sing since our wedding 28 years ago. Problem is God didn't bless him with the best voice. Sometimes there is nothing we can do. If I could play guitar like my daughter plays piano, maybe I'd upgrade to............a 1537 or and Adamas or the redwood Collector's that's on ebay, but then I'd have to get my daughter a Steinway first. |
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Location: SoCal | Ced, call Paul Stebner. He owns a place up in Tustin called Guitar Remedy and he's an authorized Ovation repair guy. His number is 714/544-8350. He's a great guy.
As to the rest of this debate, it's kinda silly. If you want a Martin sound, then by a Martin. Same for Taylor. Martins and Taylors don't sound the same. Ovations don't sound like either one.
I've played my 1537 against a $7k EC 00-42. They didn't sound the same. The 1537 was better.
You guys are arguing over the different flavors of ice cream. How can you say vanilla is better than chocolate?
I've said this before, but it bears repeating... I don't ask that others feel about my guitars the way I do. I just hope they feel about their guitars they way I feel about mine.
Now go have a bowl of ice cream.
By the way, unlike ice cream, all peanut butter is not the same. Peter Pan smooth is the best. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Abendicum:
I compared the sound of the 2005ES with some other LX's hanging in my local GC and didn't hear a great difference... Ab, I didn't say the CB was any better sounding than a roundback. To me it's just more comfortable. Feels more like a wooden box guitar. But I can understand that you have different likes and dislikes than I do. That's OK. You're still wrong, but that's OK. ;) |
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | Originally posted by Ced:
To illustrate, just think of WIllie Nelson's classical guitar. He found in a dunpster, i think or aomehting like that.
I often wonder where these guitar urban legends come from. Just to set the record straight, he did NOT find the guitar in a dumpster, or any where else where it might have been discarded.
Willie had broken his prior guitar. He sent to his repair guy who had also installed the pickup that Willie loved. The repair guy called Willie and told him the guitar was beyond repair. Willie asked the repair guy if he had any more of the destroyed guitar. The repair guy, who owned a guitar store, told Willie there weren't any more of his broken guitar's model, but the repair guy did have this new Martin in stock that Willie might like. Willie asked if his pickup (by now long discontinued) could be fitted to the Martin. The repair guy said he thought he could get it to fit. Willie told him to fit the pickup and send the guitar to him. So, he bought a new Martin sight unseen.
It's not as interesting or entertaining as having rescued it from a dumpster, but it's the true story. |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | 4 years ago I bought a Taylor 514CE, I wanted another Ovation (own a CL 1619)but during that period O's were big with the shallow body models. I bought a 177LX when thay first came out and I will match that against the Taylor any day. The LX legend has qualities(sound, action, electronics) that rival Taylor. Both are very good guitars. The Taylor Co., however, has pulled off some very slick marketing, that set the brand apart from many guitars. I also agree that the O's import line hurts their image. The new customer would generalize the entire Ovation line. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Yep, would be nice if they took the "Ovation" off the headstock and put "Celebrity" on it. In fact, I believe they DID for a while, I've seen pictures of guitars that had that.
Part of the problem is the solid brand identity that the round bowl gives, it would still be known as an Ovation.
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I've got a Hondo that I bought in England 15 years ago. It's got a solid wood top (unknown variety) and it's now 25 years old and sounds great.
Looks like a Martin from across the room too! (a very large room)
I wonder if it sounds like a Martin. Could one of you Martin owners send me one to compare.
I'll give it back, honest!
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Location: toneville USA | Originally posted by muzza:
I've got a Hondo that I bought in England 15 years ago. It's got a solid wood top (unknown variety) and it's now 25 years old and sounds great.
Looks like a Martin from across the room too! (a very large room)
I wonder if it sounds like a Martin.
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it doesn't...
hey, some women are happy with cubic zerconium instead of diamonds. and some aren't bright enough to know the difference.
"...yeah, my buddy has this crate half stack and it sounds just as good as any marshall man, plus- it's so much cheaper!" :rolleyes: |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Due to an an occupational hazzard (I'm constantly reading) my eyes are permanently focused at about 2 feet away from my face. When I take off my glasses, everyone and everything (including guitars) look great, as if I'm looking thru a sort of watery gauze. For me, the room doesn't have to be so large. |
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Location: Hernando Beach (Tampa area) | Moody P.I. wrote: "As to the rest of this debate, it's kinda silly. If you want a Martin sound, then by a Martin. Same for Taylor. Martins and Taylors don't sound the same. Ovations don't sound like either one."
That's my take on it too. As an example (from following the Hamer website for a year or so (finally signed up -- nice friendly bunch kinda like a shark petting zoo), I've seen numerous instances of people taking great guitars (Hamer specifically) and totally gutting them, installing all new electronics, moving the bridge, doing all sorts of things to sound like a Les Paul. Only one problem with that -- it's still a Hamer. The guys in the front row with the beer-bellies and the chicks aren't going to look at the headstock and think "now that's a Les Paul sound!" They don't know who he is or care . . . What they do care about (from Prince Albert Hall to the local beer joint) is if you can play what is in your hands at the time. I have never understood buying one thing to try to have it be some other thing -- it isn't, never will be, and it shouldn't be.
What is "better sound?" That depends on what your ears are tuned to. If you're looking for a certain sound, then you buy a certain thing (for whatever reason (and don't discount snobbery, it does play a role in some people (and for a few the only role). The comment on Nelson above is telling -- the guitar was bought sight unseen. He didn't spend hours worrying over it, comparing it to this and that -- he just bought the thing and started making it play in his way . . .
What is the "standard?" How about being in tune? To me, that's what sets Ovation apart and the reason it is the working guitar for so many -- it simply stays in tune. From a concert to a street corner, the average person or pro can tune it easily, efficiently, and it stays that way for extremely long periods.
As you can see, I'm practicing with the Hamer today - give me a little time to change into my NOMEX suit before flaming please . . .
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Location: south east Michigan | Well said Matt!
I was 18 years old when I bought my Breadwinner. At that young age I expected I could make anything sound like a Gibson SG or a Les Paul. It took a while to learn the lesson that Matt stated. |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | @ Moody, p.i.: Thank you so much for the info i wil most surely drop some guitars there. I asume they also service electric guitars.
Again thank you so muchj, because the only people i have found around here that would service my guitars is Guitar Center, and I'm not confortable leaving my axes there when i'm not around. To many people....etc
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | @ dmkozak: I'm not saying that you're wrong but i'm, not sure we're talking about the same guitar here. The one i'm talking about is classical, no pickups. Anyway, i saw that dumpster stories on several webstite about ten years ago. So could it could defently be wrong. L0L!!!!!!!
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | Originally posted by Ced:
@ dmkozak: I'm not saying that you're wrong but i'm, not sure we're talking about the same guitar here. The one i'm talking about is classical, no pickups. Anyway, i saw that dumpster stories on several webstite about ten years ago. So could it could defently be wrong. L0L!!!!!!!
THank you very much
Ced Actually, we are talking about the same guitar; a classical Martin. Willie has had it, and used it as his primary guitar, since 1969.
The pickup is hidden inside the guitar. You can see the mount protruding from the bottom of the center hole. Yes, you probably never realized that thin metal bar running from the bottom of the center hole to the bottom of the guitar is the pickup mount and that it extends into the hole to hold the pickup.
Yes, the dumpster story is either definitely wrong, or just a joke making light of how hard Willie has strummed the top. The true story is readily available all over the net. |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | Cool!!! now i know for sure. What got me thinking it was the same guitar is that i've seen him in concert once and yest the guitar had that thin metal bar, but he was playing it in front of a mic dedicated to the guitar for he had a singing mic also. Maybe some technical problem that day.
Again thanks for the infos, it's great to learn new things like that.
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Location: Hicksville, NY | I happen to like both Os and Ms. Depending on what song I'm either playing or practicing at the moment, I switch between the two ... it turns out that in some songs, one happens to play and sound better than the other (and vice versa). Nevertheless, I'm just glad I don't have the luxury of owning either D28s, jumbos, OMs for Ms or Elites, Collectors or LXs for Os ... just some average joe on the sidelines with much contentment with my basic guitars. :) |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I love the sound of a deep bowl Ovation and I will play any song on it, whether the original was played on a Martin, Taylor, Gibson or a Hondo (not likely) 'cause it's me playing it now, not the original artist.
I try to get the strummin' an' pickin' as close to the original as my lack of talent allows, but it still sounds good to me. Maybe I'm tone deaf!
I can only play one guitar at a time, and that guitar will always be an O. (Unless I'm playing my Fender Precision at that particular time) |
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Location: Flushing, MI | Very interesting thread. I've yet to play the new contoured bowl models. I was just at Guitar Center the other day too. I played a couple of low end Martins and Gibsons, but the one acoustic that caught my ear the most happened to be the only deep bowl Ovation in the room (there's were lots of super shallows though). It was some new, super duper model - I didn't catch the name - but it was all painted up with hod rod flames on the top. It sounded WAY better than I thought the paint job would allow! It was also about $1000.
I've played TONS of Martins (including pre-war, and I own a 34 0-17), old Gibsons, etc. etc. and I honestly think that my 81 Legend holds up with the best of 'em in playability, and tone. It doesn't sound like a Martin, or Gibson. It has it's own tone - one that I like. Good 'nuff. |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | For me, joining the praise team in my church, is a calling that's long overdue. For years, I ushered, taught ESL and Sunday school, co-lead Bible Study groups, serve as a Deacon, but never got involved with the praise team. Today, I got to rehearse with the talented guys and gals for the very first time.
For the convenience of plugging in without much hassles, I brought my balladeer with me. This guitar's sweet sound really surprised me today, as I played alongside with our praise team leader who was playing with a Taylor 310ce.
While taking a break, the bass player borrowed my O, and had a little jam session with the praise team leader. I sat and listened to these guys play ... unless there's something wrong with my ears, this shallow bowl O can go head to head with the T 310 anytime. It even held itself very well when he played lead with it. As for the T, I was impressed at the guitar's clean and crisp tone, but its brightness held me back. The O has an obvious bright tone, but it sounded just right ... then again, it just might be the Op-24 preamp doing its magic? :rolleyes:
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | About Willie's classical pickup; I thought it was and old Baldwin Prismatone and that he also playes it into a vintage Baldwin amp.
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | Well, i was thinking that a lot of argument here about what guitar is better than other...ect stood strong until an hour ago. Now i think that you have every guitar, like adams, martin...ect that are the same thing. It is up to the player to them sound good.
And there are D'aquisto guitars. Prejection sound like the adamas. But Oh my GOD!!!!!!!! I just tried one, and within the mesure i ployed on it i knew that i was going to start saving for one right away.
Did somebody eer try one?
If not, you need to, those are just unbeatable. Even somebody who can make an Adamas sound ugly will sound awesome on one of those.
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Ced:
Even somebody who can make an Adamas sound ugly will sound awesome on one of those. It must have been pretty exciting, Ced. You just contradicted your own argument. |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | hey what can i say. I had no idea those guitars were that good. Somebody once said: "only the idiots don't change their mind" or something like that.
D'aquisto is it. Just out of this world.
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | You all gonna laugh!!!!! I don't even know if i should say this. Oh well. I was invited to buddhist meeting in Long Beach in a park. The kind of stuff with BBQ....ect and they had a few people part of the buddhist thing that came with instrument and played to entertain the people. One of them had the d'aquisto. When he took it out of the case, i saw it from the other side of the park. The shape of the body is so out there that i was thinking "what the hell is that". Walked over talked to the guy and played it real quick. I looked trying to figure out if i could make a run with it. LoL!!!!!!!!!!
Those babies are something else. I chalenge anyone to play one and tell me it's not the best. And i'm talking day and nght. There are guitars and then there's D'aquistos. Liek i said i already started saving and selling stuff to get one. And the look of it. D'Aquisto is it. Trust me on that. |
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Location: NJ | I really love the "GuitarCognoscenti" . . . . |
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Location: NJ | Yeah, me too . . |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | it was one like this one, just the older version with a couple of more holed in the body.
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAQUISTO-DQ-TD-TEARDROP-ARCHTOP-BRAND-NEW-AWESO... |
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Location: East Tennessee | moody said it best. Now go have a bowl of ice cream.
By the way, unlike ice cream, all peanut butter is not the same. Peter Pan smooth is the best.
I have two Martins and four Ovations,(maybe three, one is a celebrity) I love each one because each one sounds different,not better but different.
Plugged in nothing beats an Ovation. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by BIG O:
I mentioned earlier that McPherson hollow bodies and Rick Turner solid bodies are bar none the best sounding guitars on the planet. I got blasted for that. Unless you've played these, then you really don't know any better. I think you might be missing the point here, Big O. If you had said "I mentioned earlier that McPherson hollow bodies and Rick Turner solid bodies are bar none the best sounding guitars on the planet TO ME", it may have garnered a more palatable response. And I would pretty much guarantee that some of the players in this forum have played some of the most outstanding guitars made, regardless of the name on the front so I would have to argue that they probably do, in fact, know as much if not better.
So, do as they do. Just choose your favorite flavor and play. :cool: |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I like playing a rubber band stretched between my thumb and middle finger... |
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Location: Orlando, FL | I like playing a rubber band stretched between my thumb and middle finger... I don't know Jeff, I think the Taylor sounds just a little better. Close though...
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | yeah, you're right, Dizzy |
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Location: Studio City, California, USA | The wise men came out to play. LoL!!!!!!!!!
So in Gandhi's opinion, knowledge is knowing that you don;t know anything. Knowledge becomes wisedom only when it becomes your personal experience.
In my opinion, and i have played and listen guitar you don't even know exist, their is nothing on this planet like a D'Aquisto. Maybe an old 1964 Mountain & Co found in Anfrica in 1971 and braught back to the island which ended up in my house. You know the one with the Zinq hand made pickguard. Or maybe you don't know. I really depends if live to play every guitar you can put your hands on or not.
I don't to offend to anybody. It's just good old fun. ;0)
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Location: Tampa, FL | Don't know about the rest of the sandbox but I think there is something inherently flawed when you find yourself repeatedly making posts and deleting them when you don't like the responses. I'm a pretty tolerant type but even I'm beginning to question offering the benfit of the doubt when I doubt there's much reciprocal benefit to be offered.
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enough said?