Electronics Upgrade
Northcountry
Posted 2005-09-19 9:04 PM (#136611)
Subject: Electronics Upgrade
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Hey guy's what numbers would I ask for if I arrange to have my Adamas refitted at the Mother Ship for newer style electronics? I have a fantastic Adamas 1587 that has the three band eq and volume knob. I guess I am looking for the next generation set up that is still designed for the rectangular shape but has the mid shift and shape buttons on it as well.
What Say You?


Randy
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-19 9:24 PM (#136612 - in reply to #136611)
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folks love the Optima
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-19 9:36 PM (#136613 - in reply to #136611)
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OPTIMA. It's my favorite ovation pre-amp, plus it will fit the same hole in your bowl (I think).
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Northcountry
Posted 2005-09-19 9:48 PM (#136614 - in reply to #136611)
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I thought the Optima was the oval shaped pre apm that you can pop out? Anyway if they make this so it fits in the space prvided then Optima it is! Thanks
I see Samova is selling some stuff perhaps some lucky soul will be kind enough to buy all of it all and part out some of it to the rest of us?

Randy
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-19 9:56 PM (#136615 - in reply to #136611)
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Randy,
All the newest versions of the preamps are rounded. If you don't want to reshape the whole you will need to go for a slightly older version that is still rectangular...
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-19 9:57 PM (#136616 - in reply to #136611)
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This is Optima:

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bauerhillboy
Posted 2005-09-20 2:33 AM (#136617 - in reply to #136611)
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The Optima is essentially an Op50 in a different shaped package, Last time I asked Kim, they hadn't found a way to remove a rectangular preamp and install one of the new shaped ones. They'd have to modify the bowl. Get the Optima. John <>{
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Northcountry
Posted 2005-09-20 7:00 AM (#136618 - in reply to #136611)
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That's it. OK The Optima. I have never contacted the factory, is there someone I should contact about this? Should I mention The Fan Club (or will this cost me more)? I know I want to try and either take it out on the 30th or perhaps pick it up then. Anyone got a ballpark on the cost for this newer set up.
One more silly question will they send me one in the mail and let me install it??

Randy
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-20 7:22 AM (#136619 - in reply to #136611)
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Call John Budny or Kim Keller at the Service Dept. They shall reveal all.

You should mention OFC, but I wouldn't mention Witko's name...they might spit on your Optima.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-20 7:53 AM (#136620 - in reply to #136611)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
they might spit on your Optima.
Jeff is obviously unaware that I DO spit on my contacts. It's so dry here in AZ that's the only way to get a good connection.

Optima is good and the service department will take good care of you. While you are doing the P/A upgrade I would highly suggest you also have an external battery hatch installed. It'll cost you a 1" x 3/4" piece of lyrachord but well worth the investment.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-20 7:59 AM (#136621 - in reply to #136611)
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Originally posted by Standingovation:
I DO spit on my contacts.
And that's why his contacts at the Service Dept. aren't thrilled to see him....


....The battery hatch suggestion is a good one.
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Northcountry
Posted 2005-09-20 8:26 AM (#136622 - in reply to #136611)
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Lucky enough I have the battery compartment on mine as well. Just need the newer sounds Man.

Thanks guy's I'll call Kim or John and see what this will set me back.

Randy
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-09-20 9:10 AM (#136623 - in reply to #136611)
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I'm pretty certain that you can't put the newer oval shaped preamp on a guitar with the older rectangular preamp. I don't believe that the newer one will completely cover the hole left by the old one.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-09-20 9:11 AM (#136624 - in reply to #136611)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I'm pretty certain that you can't put the newer oval shaped preamp on a guitar with the older rectangular preamp. I don't believe that the newer one will completely cover the hole left by the old one.
DUCT TAPE.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-20 9:31 AM (#136625 - in reply to #136611)
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Naw, you leave the old P/A right where it is. Cut a new hole for the new one. Tell people you use one pre-amp for indoor gigs and the other for outdoor. Sometimes for a big stadium concert you may have to use both. It'll really freak them out. Almost like an adamas with 2 walnut knobs that don't attach to anything. Dave
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Waskel
Posted 2005-09-20 9:52 AM (#136626 - in reply to #136611)
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Heck, might as well add a couple of those, too.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2005-09-20 1:22 PM (#136627 - in reply to #136611)
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Randy,
last year I replaced the OP24 preamp of my Adamas 1688 to the Optima premp. It fits the same hole but the replacement is not as simple as most people think. The preamps are not 100 percent compatible. If you need more info don't hesitate to contact me. But I think the factory would do a great job!



Karl
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Northcountry
Posted 2005-09-22 3:21 PM (#136628 - in reply to #136611)
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Nice Karl. Yep that's what I am after. My 1688 has the original wooden knobs so I would never want to change anything on that one but my later 1587 ( I got from Al) has the deep bowl cutaway and it does have the little battery compartment door as well.
I will see what the factory says is the best way to go. If there is some minor mdifications I will be happy to do it myself but if it is fairly involved I will send it home and let mother take care of her.

Randy Thanks for all the help guy's!
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Ray1986
Posted 2005-09-22 5:22 PM (#136629 - in reply to #136611)
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Randy,
I have done the exact same modification to my 1685 as well as to my 1986 collectors. All you have to do is enlarge the 4 screw holes where the preamp is mounted. Also you'll have to drill a hole in the bowl for the XLR jack. This can be a bit tricky. I decided not to do this, I simply desoldered the XLR jack from the circuit board.(you could always put it back later if you really need it) I hope this helps, good luck.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-11-01 2:17 PM (#136630 - in reply to #136611)
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Or, you can send it to Kim Keller and have him do this...

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bvince
Posted 2005-11-01 3:44 PM (#136631 - in reply to #136611)
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Wow! What did that cost you?
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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-11-01 3:51 PM (#136632 - in reply to #136611)
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Originally posted by bvince:
Wow! What did that cost you?
Ditto! I'm considering the same thing for my 1537.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-11-01 11:23 PM (#136633 - in reply to #136611)
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Sorry, don't have an exact price for just the OpPro. Had to get a neck reset and some cosmetic work done on the binding and a dent repaired in the back of the neck.

I was going to need to replace all of the electronics anyway, the orig 2-knobber had a short somewhere. It was either this or the Optima (both with XLR). I chose the OpPro.
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Buckaroo
Posted 2005-11-02 12:13 AM (#136634 - in reply to #136611)
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That's one heck of an upgrade. Sanitary to the max. Very impressive guitar. Can it sound as good as it looks?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-11-02 5:26 AM (#136635 - in reply to #136611)
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Hey Big Money, Is that my old guitar? I'm jealous. I want it back !!!

Dave
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bvince
Posted 2005-11-02 8:05 AM (#136636 - in reply to #136611)
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Hey! Does anyone know how much that OP Pro costs including installation???
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Waskel
Posted 2005-11-02 8:43 AM (#136637 - in reply to #136611)
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Yeah. Kim Keller knows. 860-379-7575 - go to customer service.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-11-02 10:39 AM (#136638 - in reply to #136611)
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Yes, Dave, that is it.
No, Dave, you can't have it.
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worshipleader
Posted 2005-11-02 10:44 AM (#136639 - in reply to #136611)
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I had Kim & company put an OP-Pro into my 1778T (replaced the OP-30 with the OP-Pro). I think that replacement job ran about $150 (+/-). WELL worth the money imho.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-11-02 10:47 AM (#136640 - in reply to #136611)
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Except that the OP30 and Pro cans are interchangable. Robbie, all they probably charged you for was the preamp. Big Money's had to be routed out for the can.
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worshipleader
Posted 2005-11-02 11:28 AM (#136641 - in reply to #136611)
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Yeah, they replaced the preamp with the Pro (drop-in), but they also changed the thinline pickup to the Original Patented Pickup which required re-routing the bridge to accept the wider saddle. A real nice upgrade for the 1778T. Much smoother, and much less "quacky" sound out of the piezo. I gotta believe that the route job for the different shaped can for Big Money shouldn't be much more that $50 (+/-). Of course, actually I'm just plain ignorant. Who am I to say what it would cost. Only the mothership knows for sure ...
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-11-02 11:32 AM (#136642 - in reply to #136611)
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Not only did they have to rout the hole for the new can, they had to glass up the old holes for the two knobber. I also got the XLR so the didn't have to patch the output holes from the orig stereo setup.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-11-02 12:27 PM (#136643 - in reply to #136611)
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Originally posted by Standingovation:
Is that my old guitar.
I want it back.
Originally posted by ttenn:
Yes, Dave, that is it.
No, Dave, you can't have it.
You know, that's like when you see your ex-wife with her new husband and she's lost 25 pounds and gotten a boob job. You want her back !!!
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cliff
Posted 2005-11-02 12:49 PM (#136644 - in reply to #136611)
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. . . at least for one more spin around the block . . .
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-11-02 11:44 PM (#136645 - in reply to #136611)
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So, how does one get the current wife to loose...

Um, nevermind. The filter just kicked in.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-03 9:53 AM (#136646 - in reply to #136611)
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You know, all this talk about 2 knobbers and wives.....
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Waskel
Posted 2005-11-03 10:32 AM (#136647 - in reply to #136611)
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Moody, don't you have some 1537 research to do...?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-11-03 11:23 AM (#136648 - in reply to #136611)
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8147, 8148, 8149, 8150 ...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-11-03 1:42 PM (#136649 - in reply to #136611)
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8115...8622...8368...8016...
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-11-03 2:07 PM (#136650 - in reply to #136611)
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"110, 111, whatever it takes..."
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Waskel
Posted 2005-11-03 2:22 PM (#136651 - in reply to #136611)
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Close, Weas, but it's "220... 221, whatever it takes.". Michael Keaton, Mr. Mom
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-11-03 2:53 PM (#136652 - in reply to #136611)
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DOH! Knew it had to be one or the other and was too lazy to look it up before I typed it. Glad someone got the reference though.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-11-03 3:35 PM (#136653 - in reply to #136611)
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Good old IMDB.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-11-03 5:51 PM (#136654 - in reply to #136611)
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Everythings going to ball-bearings these days!
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