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Location: Evansville,IN | I know Bob Dylan was popular. I also know he was a great songwriter, but I personally never thought he sang that well. I know people still like him, and I am not trying to cause trouble. He was just never one of my favorites. :rolleyes: |
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Location: SE Michigan | I watched the first part of the documentary, which basically reinforced what I already knew; Dylan was a brilliant lyricist and poet and a mediocre musician. But I also thought the program was very well done and very interesting.
I also came away with the realization that I just am not weird enough to be a truly great artist, to be great you have to be at least half-a-bubble off plumb (preferably more).
Now I’m going to drag out those old Dylan albums and song books and relearn some of his tunes. |
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it does not work for everyone....
I saw the second half last night and it was great. lots of footage of dylan being booed on stage. I don't really remember being booed, heckled yes booed no.
can't wait for a followup with the rolling thunder tour that was my favorite. |
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Location: Flushing, MI | I watched it with my 12 year old son, who is WAY into Hendrix, Beatles, and 60's stuff. Although I'm not sure if he really appreciated the music, he did seem to appreciate the importance of Dylan on American music, and his far-reaching influence on so many of our other favorite musicians (Hendrix, Beatles, etc.).
He's a good boy. He hates hip hop, and rap, and loves Chuck Berry!
Good boy! |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | It's interesting to me how the rapsters and hip hoppers are really into the music (if that's what you can call what they do) to make money. The art of it is only tertiary. One of the Dylan people pointed out that Dylan, and his ilk are into music to make art. I believe it. A totally different mindset. I recently saw a punk rock documentary, and they said pretty much the same thing. For a while the punks and the hip hop people were running on parallel tracks, at least here in NYC, and then they had a parting of the ways. I guess that's about right, some time in 1981 or 82. Oh sure, there may be some artful rap, but for the most part its nothing but self centered gratification and money grubbing. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | I watched and recorded the Dylan thing, and remember it only went to 1966. I was an observer at the time and loved Dylan's poetic skills, as I had some poetic ambitions at the time.
What Dylan said throughout the revelation of what was happening should ring true today. He insisted that he was expressing his transition from a small town boy to a chronicler of the times that were a changing. I went from small town Ohio to New York City in the 50's and saw the same things and was very impressed by the provincialism of "home town" vs. "big city", that I learned first when I left Conneaut, Ohio at seventeen and crawled the streets of Cleveland on my way to being a war hero after I enlisted in the Army. A bunch of Cleveland sophisticates took us shitheads on a tour of Cleveland bars that opened my eyes to what I had missed in Conneaut. But, it was too late, I had signed up for three years of discipline in a war that was forgotton. I found the same abandon years later in San Diego.
Dylan only said what we felt, he got paid for it, but, shit, who among us wouldn't like to be PAID FOR IT??? |
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Location: NJ | I loved the part where Al Kooper recounted how he snuck into the studio during a "take" (while the engineer was on the phone) and nailed the organ on "Like a Rolling Stone" . . .
. . . and how he "bailed" from the Tour when he saw the itinerary had Dallas on it . . .
. . . ". . Hell, if they shot the PRESIDENT there, whaddya' think they'll do t'THIS guy! . . I don't wanna be "the next John Connolly" standing NEXT to him! . . ." . . .
Lot's of great footage on that . . .
"WELL DONE, Marty!" |
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Yeah, I watched the first part and will catch up this weekend on the second part. I thought it was pretty good. Dylan is one of my music heroes. A well done documentary. Enjoyed seeing Robbie Robertson, etc. in those parts...
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Now could someone cover the years after 1966. Blood On The Tracks and Desire are two of my favorite LPs. Love and Theft is pretty good, too.
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Location: SE Michigan | I wonder if this age could ever produce another Bob Dylan. Times were so different then. Can you imagine the only electronic media being a crappy AM radio? He would lie awake at night and listen to AM broadcasts that would only come in late at night, the stuff he heard shaped his direction. With hours of idle boredom in a small Minnesota town with very little else to occupy him, I can see how he evolved with such a strong sense of direction. And his lyrics really do a fine job of cutting things down to their most basic elements.
Today even the poorest kid in a small town probably has an IPOD and watches MTV and cruises the Internet. Things are so scattered today, back then there was a lot less noise. I am beginning to grasp where Dylan came from. But again I wonder could such an artist arise in the blizzard of mass media that we have today? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I think it's possible, but they probably might not be heard because of the blizzard. |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | I've been a fan of Dylan all my life and I've always felt that there's Dylan, and then there's everybody else. How many bands have had top hits penned ny Dylan? Byrds, Manfred Mann, Peter Paul & Mary, The Band, Hendrix, Turtles, George Harrison, Clapton, the list goes on........... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Dylan is a great songwriting talent as long as someone else is performing it. Dave |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | BrianT
Sometimes listening to music on the AM was much more entertaining to someone who had never seen TV or heard "enhanced" or that sort of music. AM radio was all we had before around 1955 or thereabouts.
That's why many of us old guys took up playing our own instruments, it was our only way of hearing music in real sterio. |
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Location: SoCal | heck, back them...didn't have good hearing aids either :p :rolleyes: :p |
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Dylan on PBS