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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | Is it that so damn difficult to use much or many? Are we that lazy? Has the English language so degenerated?
When I taught ESL (English as a Second Language) I always taught much and many and these native forgien speakers got it. Why can't American's get it.
I remember having a teacher in school who could not tolerate the word "like". Think maynard G. kerbs "like wow". I did not get it then but I got it now....
sorry for the linguistic rants but it has been bugging me. |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | I think that it's a reflection on modern society. Years ago, people dressed properly for work or school, had some common courtesy, and yes, knew how to speak properly. I think those days are gone forever. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | You're absolutely right, Al. The previous generation has raised a bunch of freakin' heathens and it should not go unsaid.
(Um, can someone make sure that all of Al's weapons (guns, knives, capos, etc.) are locked up securely? The rest of us on the East Coast thank you.) |
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Joined: September 2004 Posts: 1180
Location: Vermont USA | John B said I think that it's a reflection on on modern society. Years ago, people dressed properly for work or school, had some common courtesy, and yes, knew how to speak properly. I think those days are gone forever. I believe he has said it well, how do we turn it around it starts with us. We can make a difference show some courtesy, I think this in itself would be a good starting point. Speak properly try not swearing not all sentences begin with the F word. OK hows that for a rant. Now lets go and make a difference.
Pauly |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | All this just means we're getting old...
We are middle aged men an no longer a threat.... |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | f@ckin' Ay RIGHT!!
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
We are middle aged men an no longer a threat.... I'm not sure. I still think Al could be a threat... |
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Joined: September 2004 Posts: 1180
Location: Vermont USA | Weaser P call Homeland Security! They can turn the threat level to Orange.
Pauly |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Actually, the Threat Level has been lowered.
Bush is out of the country . . . |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | Great. Close the borders.
(Ok, ok - I'll keep my politics to myself.) |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Hey Cliff! You be nice. He's protecting us all from those "evil doin' folks" or um..something. :confused: ....and you DID sort of help him get elected. ;) |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Weaser P:
Great. Close the borders. I don't think he can find his way back....'murr'kah isn't on the map |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900
| alpep, i remember those english classes... context, verb conjugation, subject, object, preterite tenses, modifying words, infinitives, etc, ...and the tedious task of... 'diagramming sentences'....arrgghhh!... |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3651
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Having been parented by an old schoolmaster and a crossword puzzle addict; I am particularly sensitive to grammarical blunders and sloppy syntax. My delusion is wishing for a return to more precise diction, I surmise. |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Actually, the Threat Level has been lowered.
Bush is out of the country . . . and, the Dem's have no credibility...just chasin' their own tails.
As long as we are on the subject and it is Friday...
The US Postal Service has created a stamp with a picture of Senator Hillary Clinton to honor her achievements as the First Lady of our nation. In daily use it was shown that the stamp was not sticking to envelopes.
This enraged Senator Clinton, who demanded a full investigation After a month of testing, a special commission made the following findings:
*The stamp was in perfect order
*There was nothing wrong with the applied adhesive.
*People were spitting on the wrong side |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | :D |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | :D and I won't even address the rest of it. |
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 Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394
Location: East Tennessee | Tony,
That was a good one. MML. :D :D |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | USPS is also issuing a Dubbya stamp....
They had to use his DWI mugshot, cause they couldn't find his National Guard Id.
You can hardly see the powder stain under his nose.... |
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | This is getting good...too bad the other coast is about to fold up on a Friday night.
Notice how they never stay much longer to play? :p :p :p |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I get cranky if I'm not in bed by 9. ;) |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Alright you guys. Everyone back to their respective left and right corners.
Al....you were an english teacher before you became "just an idiot who sells gear for a living", right? I can see why todays language can make you crazy. Every year, about this time I think, there is an announcement made of the new words that will be added to the dictionary. I scratch my head in wonder every year.
I think we all break some classroom rules here on the board. I think it is in an attempt to make this seem more like a face to face conversation than the written word.
I'll give you my choice for what hits a sour note for me....I that "I'm just a idiot who..." phrase. It's not true. |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| Would someone tell me if I should be upset about something?
Whom ever I was last time. |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 140
Location: Spain | Lets face it ,if you read Al's original grievance as a proof reader would ,it only proves how hard the language is . Of course the errors could be deliberate.... |
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Location: SoCal | Driftwood - probably |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
This is getting good...too bad the other coast is about to fold up on a Friday night.
Notice how they never stay much longer to play? :p :p :p Now, now, Tony...the East Coast isn't exactly folding up. Think of it as practicing tolerance when faced with differing views. [Insert time for required GOP gagging here] And, while I'm open to having this discussion anytime, chatroom format is hardly the forum I'd choose. Finally, despite my distaste for Dubya, don't just assume that I would be a full fledged Dem either because that would be inaccurate. ;) |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | Originally posted by Driftwood:
Lets face it ,if you read Al's original grievance as a proof reader would ,it only proves how hard the language is . Of course the errors could be deliberate.... if I am typing a message in an e mail or on a message board, I rarely pay attention to the "rules".
when I am paid to do it, I do it well. |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by seesquare:
Having been parented by an old schoolmaster and a crossword puzzle addict; I am particularly sensitive to grammarical blunders and sloppy syntax. My delusion is wishing for a return to more precise diction, I surmise. ITYM, ' grammatical .' YMMV. HTH. HAND.
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Location: East Tennessee | A posted by alpep;
if I am typing a message in an e mail or on a message board, I rarely pay attention to the "rules".
when I am paid to do it, I do it well.
Well said.
I was never very good in English class. :(
I use spell check a lot. :) |
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 Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2178
Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | At last.... A bumper sticker for both parties. FINALLY, someone has come out with a 100% bipartisan political bumper sticker. The hottest selling bumper sticker comes from New York State:
"2008 - RUN HILLARY RUN"
Democrats put it on the rear bumper.
Republicans put it on the front bumper.
sorry......Tony started it :rolleyes: |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by Trboy:
At last.... A bumper sticker for both parties. FINALLY, someone has come out with a 100% bipartisan political bumper sticker. The hottest selling bumper sticker comes from New York State:
"2008 - RUN HILLARY RUN"
Democrats put it on the rear bumper.
Republicans put it on the front bumper.
sorry......Tony started it :rolleyes: Now THAT'S funny! :D |
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Joined: June 2003 Posts: 194
Location: Las Vegas | Reminds me of a comedy skit on some 70's show (I forgot which) where an actress was making fun of an operatic diva singing Zeppelin....
"Want a great deal of love"
"Want a great deal of love"
"Want a great deal of love"
Les |
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Joined: June 2003 Posts: 194
Location: Las Vegas | Now, I actually halfway like Jeb, and truth be told, Diebold counts the votes, so he will absolutely be the next President, but this adapted joke is funny, right now...
"At last, a bumper sticker for both parties...
'Run, Jeb, Run!'
BOTH parties put it on the FRONT bumper..."
Les |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413
| Don't blame anyone but yourselves - the language was in perfect condition when we gave it to you. :p |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | bugger off. |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | I always kinda liked the "Chimpeach" bumpersticker myself. |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3651
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Cruster- nice catch! Musta bin a center fielder, in a previous existence.
I emailed everyone I know with that Hillary anecdote, regardless. It's just funny...... |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by seesquare:
Cruster- nice catch! Musta bin a center fielder, in a previous existence.
I emailed everyone I know with that Hillary anecdote, regardless. It's just funny...... Just ribbing you. ;)
Nope, no baseball here. When I was a youngster, my folks made me try out for Little League (although I had no interest). The flyer said, 'Everyone makes a team!' I didn't. 'Nuff said. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Is it time for Adolf to come back? He and Hillairy would make a great team. |
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Joined: June 2003 Posts: 194
Location: Las Vegas | Originally posted by cwk2:
Is it time for Adolf to come back? He and Hillairy would make a great team. Mr. Mulder, Adolf's been here, for a very very long time.
Les |
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