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OldLiverJones
Posted 2005-11-30 9:39 PM (#127693)
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Cream is on PBS now.
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alpep
Posted 2005-11-30 10:06 PM (#127694 - in reply to #127693)
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oh man is that a good show.
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Paul Wag
Posted 2005-11-30 10:28 PM (#127695 - in reply to #127693)
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Pressed Rat and Warthog opened thier shop back up... :cool:
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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-11-30 10:54 PM (#127696 - in reply to #127693)
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Wow! They still got it! Jack Bruce was interesting, as he and Baker were out of the lime light for years. Clapton's guitar work with the Cream, was his best. It's amazing how with 3 guys playing, they keep the flow and energy of each piece strong. You notice that Clapton really didn't change his guitar during the show, except for "Rollin ans Tumblin" which was open tuning. His strat looked like it had some miles on it.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-01 12:14 AM (#127697 - in reply to #127693)
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Missed it. Was it the Royal Albert Hall show from earlier this year? I saw some of that on an airline flight a few weeks ago and I was stunned at how good Jack Bruce looked and at how old Ginger Baker looked. Clapton was Clapton. But they sounded great on the few songs I watched.
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alpep
Posted 2005-12-01 6:24 AM (#127698 - in reply to #127693)
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yes it was the RAH show.
IMHO they sounded great.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-01 6:32 AM (#127699 - in reply to #127693)
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I thought this thread was about ointment...I got this rash, ya see....
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Phil Wong
Posted 2005-12-01 7:20 AM (#127700 - in reply to #127693)
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Jeff,
Pharmaceutically speaking, Cream is water based and Ointment is petroleum based. Just is case you wanted to know. :) :D
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-12-01 7:25 AM (#127701 - in reply to #127693)
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PUH-LEEZE do not encourage this topic any further. I think it's safe to admit I'm begging here.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-01 8:26 AM (#127702 - in reply to #127693)
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then an unguent, perhaps?
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Beal
Posted 2005-12-01 9:10 AM (#127703 - in reply to #127693)
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maybe a waxing?
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beatlejuice53
Posted 2005-12-02 2:27 PM (#127704 - in reply to #127693)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Missed it. Was it the Royal Albert Hall show from earlier this year? I saw some of that on an airline flight a few weeks ago and I was stunned at how good Jack Bruce looked and at how old Ginger Baker looked. Clapton was Clapton. But they sounded great on the few songs I watched.
Funny,I had the opposite feeling. I thought Baker looe better now than he did in the 60's(though he looked REAL rough back then). Bruce to me looked like the years have taken its toll.He spent a lot of time sorta sittin' in a chair(when not singing).Nonetheless, a great concert. Glad they decided to do it. Would've been a shame to let the chance go by.Nice interviews, too.
Creamj.....oops, Beatlejuice
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Buckaroo
Posted 2005-12-02 3:21 PM (#127705 - in reply to #127693)
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Saw the show. The old gang sounded great, in the pocket, and silky smooth. Cheers
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-02 5:41 PM (#127706 - in reply to #127693)
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CJ, errr ... BJ,

I only saw three songs and a smattering of interviews on the plane, so maybe it was the context in which I saw it. I'm looking forward to watching from start to finish.
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fillhixx
Posted 2005-12-02 6:12 PM (#127707 - in reply to #127693)
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Cream is on PBS
Whatisthe world coming to?
Rock and Roll on Public Television!
:eek:
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-02 6:34 PM (#127708 - in reply to #127693)
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I saw it. Wasn't around in 66, so I can't comment. I can say, however, that Ginger Baker can play the shite out of a set of drums for being in his 60s. And Jack Bruce still has the voice that I remember listening to on Disreali Gears/Fresh Cream back when I was a youngster just getting out of New Wave and into classic stuff. They played pretty tight, which is amazing, given how 'loose' modern pop acts play (when they actually play). That being said, I don't think Clapton put a ton of effort in; at least not compared to Baker and Bruce. But, it was a great show and I'm glad I watched it.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-12-02 7:35 PM (#127709 - in reply to #127693)
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Whatisthe world coming to?
Rock and Roll on Public Television!
I remember when PBS used to frequently show "Let It Be", before MPL pulled the plug 'cause it was making Sir Paul look bad.
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Styll
Posted 2005-12-03 12:55 AM (#127710 - in reply to #127693)
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Sounded great...too bad they waited too long. Why did they???

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GrilledCheese
Posted 2005-12-03 8:00 AM (#127711 - in reply to #127693)
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I missed it. Nothing unusual for me, but I do remember listening to their music back in the day, wondering how Ginger Baker could play drums that well, and Clapton's guitar work was brilliant. I still like listening to their music even today. If Clapton didn't look like he was making as much of an effort as the others, that's just typical Clapton, he makes it look efffortless. :)
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-03 8:40 AM (#127712 - in reply to #127693)
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Originally posted by GrilledCheese:
...If Clapton didn't look like he was making as much of an effort as the others, that's just typical Clapton, he makes it look efffortless. :)
I saw him (Clapton) in concert at The Palace back in the early 90s; great show. My brother-in-law asked me how I thought they played, so I told him Baker was out of his mind on drums, Bruce can still tear up 'Spoonful' and the harmonica on "Rollin' and Tumblin'" and Clapton is still god on guitar (little g god). ;)
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-12-03 9:24 AM (#127713 - in reply to #127693)
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I caught it a couple of nights ago. Cool show that evoked mucho nostalgia (I saw them on their first American tour and stood, transfixed, about 25 feet from Clapton). My only complaint about the PBS show is the mix. I could barely hear the guitar.

There are obviously better guitarists, bassists, and drummers, but what was magic about Cream -- as with perhaps all great bands -- is the synergy. My $.02
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-12-04 7:16 AM (#127714 - in reply to #127693)
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P.S. I saw the concert again last night on a different PBS channel and there were no sound problems, other than pining for my lost youth.
Now I may have to get the DVD so I can pine some more.
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-04 7:27 AM (#127715 - in reply to #127693)
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Originally posted by Paul Blanchard:
..so I can pine some more.
I think they're calling it agathis now.

;)
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tragocaster
Posted 2005-12-05 11:59 PM (#127716 - in reply to #127693)
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We've been discussing this show over at the Telecaster board. Everyone is pretty much appalled at the overly compressed tone that Clapton was sporting throughout the show. The reason is the mid-boost that's built into his guitar. One may assume it's Eric's attempt at approximating a Gibson tone, while remaining with the Stratocaster.

Other than that, I thought ol Eric played wonderfully!

I did notice that Jack Bruce vocals seemed rather weak, although still not bad at all. Afterwards I found out that he'd undergone a liver transplant operation a couple of years ago, and apparently there were some complications.

Everyone played like the glory days of old, except that I thought that they played a little more solid than before. In their old days, they would tend to meander all over the place. They seemed much more focused now.
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Mike O
Posted 2005-12-06 12:01 PM (#127717 - in reply to #127693)
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Saw the last half of the show and loved it. Anyone who would like to see a before and after on Ginger Baker take a look at the Blind Faith Album Cover.....Looks like a lot of long hard miles :D

Mike O
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fillhixx
Posted 2005-12-06 12:05 PM (#127718 - in reply to #127693)
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Ginger has always looked like Keith Richards weaker cousin.


I've seen winos passed out in alleys that look healthier.....more teeth too.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-06 12:23 PM (#127719 - in reply to #127693)
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Heck, Baker looked like that 40 years ago....
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2005-12-06 12:43 PM (#127720 - in reply to #127693)
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...I've always wondered why Cream didn't hire a decent song writer... I mean "I'm So Glad"!???....come on....
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Beal
Posted 2005-12-06 12:57 PM (#127721 - in reply to #127693)
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Don't be dissin Skip James now.....
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alpep
Posted 2005-12-06 12:59 PM (#127722 - in reply to #127693)
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Originally posted by Tim Chapman:
...I've always wondered why Cream didn't hire a decent song writer... I mean "I'm So Glad"!???....come on....
maybe cause skip james wrote it??????????
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2005-12-06 1:10 PM (#127723 - in reply to #127693)
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yup...my point exactly... if nothing else, better discernment in material choices couldn't have hurt them....
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John B
Posted 2005-12-06 1:20 PM (#127724 - in reply to #127693)
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It's funny. I realize how great of a guitar player that Clapton is, but for some reason, I've never been a big fan of his. I do like a lot of Cream's songs, but not enough to buy more than their greatist hits album. I've tried to get into to Clapton's music, but it just doesn't move me for whatever reason.
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-06 1:31 PM (#127725 - in reply to #127693)
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go change a diaper . . . .
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John B
Posted 2005-12-06 1:38 PM (#127726 - in reply to #127693)
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Why? Are you dirty again? :D
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-06 2:18 PM (#127727 - in reply to #127693)
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I hear you John... I respect Clapton's talent as a player, but I'd just as soon listen to "Girl from Ipanema" on the ride up from the lobby....

Going up...
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-06 2:26 PM (#127728 - in reply to #127693)
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Well, yeah . . . . but ONLY if it's the Stan Getz version with Joao & Astrud Gilberto . . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-06 2:30 PM (#127729 - in reply to #127693)
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....it's not that often you find them in the same elevator.
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-06 2:38 PM (#127730 - in reply to #127693)
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Well . . . not in Virginia, anyway . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-06 3:08 PM (#127731 - in reply to #127693)
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ain'it da truth....
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