Shoulder Surgery
willard
Posted 2007-01-09 2:30 PM (#121184)
Subject: Shoulder Surgery


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NOT good news folks. Here is an exerpt from the findings of the recent MRI I had done last week.
Without Contrast
Conclusion:
1. Complete tear of the subscapularis tendon with associated marked edema, joint effusion and medial dislocation of the long head of the biceps tendon.
2. Deep (80-90%) articular-sided partial-thickness tearing of the subraspinatus tendon spanning a distance of approximately 1.5cm at the intersection
With Contrast
1. SLAP tear mostly involving the posterior-superior aspect of the labrum
2. Complete tear of the middle glenohumeral ligament.
3. Findings reconfirming a complete tear or the subscapularis tendon and deep articular-sided partial –thickness tear of the surpaspinatuis
Does anybody have any idea how long it might be before I can play after surgery?
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-01-09 2:37 PM (#121185 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Holy sh&*T! What happened??
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-01-09 2:38 PM (#121186 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Bill, it would seem you had quite a trauma in your shoulder area, and as far as healing time would go, all I can add is what I know about my issue with a torn tendon (can't remember the name of it) assioated with a rotator cuff repair. They had to go in and cut some bone, and repair the torn tendon. The most important part was the rehab by a trained therapist, but it took me probably 6 months before I would attempt to play a guitar. Best of luck with it. Just follow the therapist's dirrections and excercises, and it will speed the healing.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-09 2:48 PM (#121187 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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Bill, sorry to hear it.
Can we figure out a way to send you through Customer Service for a little fixing up?

Kurt Roddy is the only one I can think of that went though something like that.

Professional therapy - amen!
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an4340
Posted 2007-01-09 2:52 PM (#121188 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I had that same surgery, on both my shoulders. You shouldn't be worried, prognosis is good. That said, the first two weeks after surgery you will be agony. I'd say at about 4 weeks you'll be practicing.
Cheers!

PS How'd you do it?
My first was in a surfing accident in Mexico, and the second was a fall while inline skating.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-09 3:24 PM (#121189 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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First you need to fitted for a Uke, then a shallow bowl. Nothing bigger than a midbowl for 6 months!
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willard
Posted 2007-01-09 3:27 PM (#121190 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I was hiking in some rocky hills on Thanksgiving Day and tried to stop myself from slipping. My arm went backward and the rest of me went forward. At lest I was having fun at the time. It's been hurting but I never dreamed it was this serious. I need to see a surgeon next week.
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-09 3:53 PM (#121191 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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there's hills in Wisconsin??
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-09 3:58 PM (#121192 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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Think lap steel.

Now is this right or left arm?
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lanaki
Posted 2007-01-09 4:00 PM (#121193 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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i've seen hills in the wisconsin dells area.

sorry 'bout your accident willard. heal well!

i have five younger brothers who all live in the lake geneva/delavan area of wisconsin.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-01-09 4:22 PM (#121194 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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Originally posted by cliff:
there's hills in Wisconsin??
That was gonna be my question. Holes, yes, but hills?

Willard, I sure am sorry to hear about this. Whatever the rehab, do it diligently and we'll be hoping for you to be playing again soon.
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willard
Posted 2007-01-09 4:25 PM (#121195 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Devils Lake, very near The Dells.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-01-09 4:33 PM (#121196 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Originally posted by willard:
Devils Lake, very near The Dells.
Devil's Lake...that place is mentioned in that song, "I've Been Everywhere", of course, what place isn't mentioned in that song besides Hilo, Hawaii?

"...Devil's Lake, Crater Lake, for Pete's sake..."
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-09 5:15 PM (#121197 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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Now let's review some of the facts:



Shoulder Muscles


Devil's Lake


Willard playing on the rocks.

Willard! Quit play'in on them rocks boy! You'll hurt yerself!
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Joyful Noise
Posted 2007-01-09 5:25 PM (#121198 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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While the doctor is in there, have him remove that plaque.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-01-09 6:03 PM (#121199 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I'll keep the strings fresh on your Longneck for you. You're not going to be able to reach "all the way out there" for awhile :p :D :p :D

Seriously Bill, let us know when your surgery is scheduled. I've got a A.C. separation that I'm not looking forward to having repaired. the only that hurts worse than a shoulder injury, is getting it fixed.
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an4340
Posted 2007-01-09 7:17 PM (#121200 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Falling is the classic way to do this. They use little, I forget what you call 'em, telescopes, and micro scapels and the like ... 20 years ago they wouldn't have been able to fix it, and you'd (we would've) had to stay in pain. This is one techno advance I like.

Once your surgeon says your a candidate, I wouldn't wait, because things only will get worse.
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willard
Posted 2007-01-09 7:45 PM (#121201 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Might be a good time for my Legend to take a trip back home for a few repairs and tweeking. I'm really trying to look at the bright side. Good pain meds used to make me happy but for some reason, I don't think that's going to help this time.
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-09 9:12 PM (#121202 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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Taking those drugs for what you're supposed to take them for isn't that much fun.
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an4340
Posted 2007-01-10 11:33 AM (#121203 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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With this kind of surgery, when you take the pain meds, you still feel the pain, but you care less. Basically, they make you dopey and after a week you'd rather deal with the pain. But like I said, it's just that initial two weeks that's bad.
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-10 11:37 AM (#121204 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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. . . just get enough so's that you can "share" (hint,hint).
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-01-10 12:32 PM (#121205 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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The guy I sit next to at work got a letter from his diabeties doctor saying that he is "terminating the doctor/patient relationship." Yep..the guy got fired by his doctor for not following the doctor's instructions.

So do what the doctor says. They are starting to get kinda uppity.
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cruster
Posted 2007-01-10 12:53 PM (#121206 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
So do what the doctor says. They are starting to get kinda uppity.
Starting?

:D

(Full Disclosure: I work for a regional health care system)
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willard
Posted 2007-01-10 12:54 PM (#121207 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Fired by your doctor, wouldn't that feel good. We've recectly been given an article on how to "fire a customer". Slow, pay, demanding very low costs, lots of phone work. Sounds like it might be a trend.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-01-10 2:59 PM (#121208 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I took a hike around Devil's Lake when I was in boy scouts. Parts of the hike we were actually above clouds. Really beautiful, as is the Kettle Morraine area and many other places in Wisconsin. One of the few other places I'd like to live. My dad would say there's too many Democrats, though. He says the same about Oregon, where he lives now.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-01-10 7:51 PM (#121209 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Darn it, willard. My shoulder's been hurting ever since I looked at this thread at noon.
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willard
Posted 2007-01-11 11:24 AM (#121210 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I told a guy last night about it and he proceeded to tell me his rotator cuff was torn and "it only hurts when I do this". As he reached over his head I thought he was going to fall over in pain.
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cliff
Posted 2007-01-11 11:29 AM (#121211 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I sincerely hope that you told him

"Well, don't DO that! . . "
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brainslag
Posted 2007-01-11 11:37 AM (#121212 - in reply to #121184)
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Learn to play your guitar with your feet like that guy with no arms in the video that was going around a while back. Just remember to wipe down the neck afterwards.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-01-11 2:42 PM (#121213 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Originally posted by cliff:
I sincerely hope that you told him

"Well, don't DO that! . . "
He might get sued for practicing medicine without a license. We pay them the big bucks to have them tell us not to do stuff.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2007-01-11 5:22 PM (#121214 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Well you're still coming on the tour, aren't you?
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-11 6:00 PM (#121215 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery



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We'll need to warn the Hotel

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willard
Posted 2007-02-14 7:39 AM (#121216 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I hate bringing up old threads but...today's the day. I'm going under at 10:30 this morning. To try and get both sides of the fence here, those who do, please say some prayers, those who don't, wish me luck.
Thanks,
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willard
Posted 2007-02-14 7:53 AM (#121217 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I almost forgot, any Warheads out there might send "The Force" my way.
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Phil Wong
Posted 2007-02-14 8:07 AM (#121218 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Having surgery at any time is never really something to look forward to. I had surgery twice when I was 10 years old. After the first time I was hoping that it was only going to happen once. The recovery was a new experience. I spent Christmas and New Years in the hospital. The second time I knew what was ahead of me. Just before I was given anesthesia I spoke to the surgeon. I told him the sooner he gets started the sooner I can get out of there.
The main thing is to stay optomistic. That will help your recovery.

Good Luck
Phil
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alpep
Posted 2007-02-14 8:56 AM (#121219 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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I had an infection in my right elbow. I had surgery on it to clean it out and was put on a bundh of morphine and antibiotics. the next week I went to the namm show. the doctor told me to take it easy.

well I went over to moody's house and played guitar for a while and that set me back for a couple of months.

moral of the story. do what the doctor tells you and stay away from moody.
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Goober
Posted 2007-02-14 9:12 AM (#121220 - in reply to #121184)
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Om Ram Namaste. Heal!!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-02-14 11:00 AM (#121221 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Get well soon, Willard. Not much of a Valentine's Day for you. A gal in the office had shoulder surgery a few months ago. Blew out her shoulder skiing. She was gimpy for a few months, but did her PT and exercises and is skiing again this year.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-02-14 11:26 AM (#121222 - in reply to #121184)
Subject: Re: Shoulder Surgery


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Sorry to hear about your accident Willard. Heal well ... and fast!

If that was really you on the photograph, I must say that's a very nice 12-string you're playing. :) That photograph is worth more than a thousand words, than that stupid advertisement on the magazine where a man was pictured playing a Blueridge at the summit of Mt. Everest. And I mean it in a very positive way.

Again, feel better.
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