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Location: Phoenix AZ | Sadly this isn't MY collection. But what do you figure this little group is worth ?
Front L-R: 1930 OM28, 1927 0045, 1927 000-45, 1930 OM-28. Rear: Two 1930 OM18's.
Notice the old non-slotheads have banjo style tuners.
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Location: NW NJ | Oh wow ... that is amazing Dave. For once I'm speechless... :eek: |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | You might try reviewing completed auctions on Ebay.
(... Hey Clifford! 6 stalls... No Waiting!)
(...near a million) |
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Location: PDX | That is incredible. Is that a gathering, or a single collection? Amazing to think it is a single collection. I have no idea what the collection would be worth $250K? a million? no idea.
Thanks for the picture!
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Location: Scotland | Wow!, original Orchestra Models in that kind of condition go for telephone numbers. 45 styles of that vintage are silly money too. The 0045 looks like it's had a bridge replacement. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | This is amazing. So, is there a story behind the pic? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This is ONE guys collection. And not even all of it! He's just a member over on the Martin board. I can't even begin to guess at the value. And No Jeff, you don't find much of this stuff on completed ebay auctions. I just bought an OM which I thought was a nice one, until I saw this stuff! Dave |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Tup, your sarcasm meter isn't working... |
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Location: Round Rock, TX | And he set them IN THE GRASS !?! If those were mine they would be on the best stands available and flanked by two guys wearing sunglasses and coiled wires leading to their right ear. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | When in the house he keeps them on Hercules stands. Dave |
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Location: PDX | A single collection -- WOW! How in the heck did he come by all of those? Deep pockets? garage sales in the 60's?, in heritance? Just incredible.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Things I realize looking at the photo:
I don't know diddly about Martins.
Stocks aren't always the best investments.
I need to repaint my adirondac chairs.
Does that quantify as hardcore Martin guitar porn? |
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Location: PDX | Originally posted by MWoody:
Does that quantify as hardcore Martin guitar porn? Almost any ONE of those would qualify -- all of them together, with one owner, ... so far over the top it's unimaginable. I would call BS without the picture -- even then, i'm looking for the cardboard cut-outs.
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Location: Orange County, California | I'm thinking "Martin get together". |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I come up (with the help of Timm Kummer) with $280K. Good investment grade stuff there. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | could this be Andrew St. John's collection? |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | Tuppy and all--
Since I don't know anything about old Martins, could you tell me the significance of the grouping? I can appreciate that they must be very hard to come by, but exactly what makes them so awe-inspiring? Is it just a matter of age, are they originally-the-only-one-of-its-kind, the-only-one-of-a-multitude-left? (And I do realize that this could make me fair game for the merciless, but I really would like to understand the magnitude of the event pictured above.)
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Karen,
All "pre-war" Martins!
One that was in OK shape sold on the bay last year for ~ $250,000. |
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Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma | that's truly an amazing collection of early Martins....That collection is a retirement plan! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Karen asks a very worthy question.
As a guy with scarce trace of the Sports Gene I would find myself on the edge of testosterone laden discussions with ex-jock but normally quiet people that now were spouting statistics, team history, Rainman absorbsion-rate sports page data and I swear their heads could spin around as they shot fire out of their, er, nostrils!
Pre-war anything usually means less automation and "from another era". A quieter time of slow consumerism and less output. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Jewel's Mom:
Tuppy and all--
Since I don't know anything about old Martins, could you tell me the significance of the grouping? I can appreciate that they must be very hard to come by, but exactly what makes them so awe-inspiring? Karen,
Aside from the fact that these Martins are old... they are, in a way, the standards by which Steel String guitar was defined in both, design and sound.
If there is a Steel String guitar equivalent to Stradivarius you are looking at it.... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Lets not get that far out there. They are significant guitars but there isn't a dreadnaught. That's the king. Also the two 1927 45s are really made for nylon strings. I believe 29 or 30 was the change over time.
Timm's and my estimation are that the OM-28s are around 60 each, the OO-45 is 30, the OOO-45 is 70 because it's so rare, even if it is for nylon strings, and the OM-18s are 25-30. |
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Location: SoCal | Not all old Martins are tremendously expensive. I've got a 1917 0018 (nylon string) and I'd be willing to bet that it's not worth more than a couple grand.
I should have had Timm look at it when he was here last year..... |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | This is beginning to look like the Antique Road Show. :) |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Jewel's Mom:
Tuppy and all--
Since I don't know anything about old Martins, could you tell me the significance of the grouping? I can appreciate that they must be very hard to come by, but exactly what makes them so awe-inspiring?
Karen The OM's are important because they were Martin's first guitar with a 14 fret neck/body joint, supposedly at the request of banjo players as the banjo was waning in popularity at the time (which also possibly explains the use of planetary gear tuners) They also had a longer scale length than the 12-fret 000 they were based on. The OM is considered a benchmark design for fingerstyle players.
Bill, according to the Longworth book steel strings were special order from '27 and standard issue from '28, so these could go either way, it could also explain why the 00 has had the bridge changed. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Everything is relative. Over on the Applesauce Fan Club forums, they're passing around pics of Tupp's collection saying, "Holy cow! What in the world is this collection worth?" |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | About a buck-three-fitty.
But it is one of the better ones.
Paul, thanks for the clarification. |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | I say the same thing about Tup's collection ;) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | On the uke forum they aren't saying anything about Tuppy's collection. On the banjo forum they're still trying to figure out how to spell banjo. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | DUCK TIM!!! |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | Where would NY be without NJ, where would Ovation be without banjo's, man, life is goood!!! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by philmax:
Where would NY be without NJ Yes, where WOULD they ship all those barges of trash ...
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The interesting thing about this guys quarter mil collection is the contrast to how we piss and moan that garonemartin or some other such schmuck drives up the winning bid on an Ovation by a hundred bucks. Dave |
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Location: Upper Left USA | As it has been brought up many times before we want (and get) some real bargains on great ovations. Then we are upset because the $200 Vipers are gone.
I am more and more aware of the rising price of solid body parts and such. Now is still a great time to invest for later.
I am sure that this Collector has been shrewdly seeking and findying for quite some time. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by MWoody:
findying Is this some rare or arcane American practice of which I am completely unaware? |
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Location: ranson,wva | never heard that one either,and i speak bad american verry well...jason |
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Location: Upper Left USA | When I logged in tonight the first picture that came up was an apologetic looking Dubya. Must be setting me off... |
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Location: big island | pathetic looking dubya, bless his heart! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | it's not his fault |
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Location: NJ | (ahem). . . |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Glad they are finally sending in more troops.
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The California National Guard . . . |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Well, what I got from that speech was not any contritenes: he's shoving us deeper into the briar patch ... with the tar baby. |
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Location: NJ | let's drop the politicos . . . |
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Location: Upper Left USA | ...Chorus
He-e-e-e-e-y Baby, did you read that post first
Ya-a-a-a-a-h maybe you better change some words
And I won’t back down
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How much is this collection worth ???