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Location: big island | i apologize up front for my utter ignorance on this subject. but i just gotta ask - why slotheads?
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Location: Australia | Fair question.
The original slotheads have developed a kind of mistique over the years probably because of their rarity and unique look.
I have one of the #47 reissues and also a standard 1687 Adamas. The #47 sounds more open, louder and more "acoustic" (whatever that means).I've also played the original #47 and the reissue sounds better IMHO.
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Location: ranson,wva | i know for a fact the older slothead ovation/adamas had a better break angle over the nut. ive got a '74 folklore and a '74 balladeer. folklore is a slothead,balladeer is a paddlehead. the slothead has a better break angle over the nut and sounds better. plus the slotheads look better in my opinion....jason |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by stephent28:
Lanaki, do a search on the topic.
You will find tons of information, misinformation, and opinions galore. that's the first thing i did prior to posting the question. i typed "slotheads" in the search box and came up with one hit from an update in 2002 by Mr. Ovation. i was surprised cuz i figured this subject had to have been dissected before. i'll try again...mahalo! |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I'm glad someone else is struggling with the whole slothead thing. I wouldn't have thought that the break angle over the nut made much difference, as the strings very rarely vibrate their whole length. (Unless you play a lot of Em or one finger G)
And I HATE restringing classical guitars. There must be a technique that nobody's bothered letting me in on.
For me, an Ovation has the familiar wedge shaped headstock with the built in snowplough.
And here I go... I'm gonna say it... I think the 47RI and similar Adamii are ugly. All that carving... and what's with the sparkly top. Disco is dead.
Now, before you go banning me and sending the troops down under (Richardd will get to me first anyway) I don't say the above with any malice or nastiness. And I don't say it lightly either. But, I just don't get it. What am I missing? Am I alone in my negative opinion of these over blinged Adamii?
I was going to ask the question in the OFC guitar thread, but everyone was so complimentary about it, I didn't want to rain on the party. Obviously, the sound of a guitar is paramount, and these variations of the 47RI must sound awesome from the flood of comments about them. But isn't appearance important as well?
Isn't it possible to get a similar sound from a guitar with less 'bling'? Why do I find these sparkly, slothead guitars so undesireable, yet so many of you, no, ALL of you, wax lyrical about them at every opportunity.
It is NOT my intention to upset anybody with my comments. I just wanna know - what did I miss? |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Muzza, I used to feel like you about the Adamas line, and still don't really like the carved headstock that much. I loved, and still do, my wood toped slotheads, but since owning the 1681, it has really grown on me as far as being blue and all. (who ever heard of a blue guitar?) But the sound...well, it could look like pressed cow dung and the sound would still be worth it. ;)
BTW, the best way to restring a slothead is to do it on a guitar stand (Herculies) with a hand crank. Just did the 1115 and the 1614 and it was a breeze. |
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Location: PDX | Originally posted by muzza:
And here I go... I'm gonna say it... I think the 47RI and similar Adamii are ugly. All that carving... and what's with the sparkly top.
Am I alone in my negative opinion of these over blinged Adamii?
Isn't it possible to get a similar sound from a guitar with less 'bling'? Why do I find these sparkly, slothead guitars so undesireable, yet so many of you, no, ALL of you, wax lyrical about them at every opportunity.
Well, not all of "us". I haven't commented on either the 47, or OFC for the same reason's you were hesitant.
But since you've broken the seal on that taboo, let me say you're not alone. I absolutely hate the look of those guitars and would never own one no matter how good they sound.
Slot heads by themselves don't bother me nearly as much as "bling". Yeah, i hate changing the strings on them -- major PITA. But it's not a deal breaker for me. But carve a portrait of broccoli on top of it, and echo it on the bridge, no thanks.
Of course it's possible to get the same sound without the gaudiness -- just not this time around. Take a look at the UTE -- now, that's a beautiful guitar in it's simplicity.
Anyway, if we're to be banned for our heresy; give me a shout and i'll buy you a beer mate.
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Funny I sold one Adamas II reissue and a bunch of the I and 47RI.
btw I hate changing the strings on a slothead too but the sound is soooooooo worth it.
You don't have to like everything order and play what you want.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nobody is gonna be banned for not liking the loks of a slothead. Heck, I've posted my own (negative) personal opinions about plenty of Ovation models. It's just personal opinions and preferences. I hate the looks of that white adamas meilissa thing, I refuse to call SMT's real adamas, and I think supershallow bowls mostly suck. There you go, take it for what it's worth.
When I joined this club as standingovation way back when, I disliked all adamas. I thought they looked aweful. That powder blue crap. They took a guitar that was half plastic to begin with and now even got rid of the wood top. What a joke. I thought the fig leaves and broccoli headstock were for homos. BUT, as I started to hear some of them I was BLOWN AWAY by the sound.
So, I warmed up to the Adamas II, were you could get the same sound without the sissy looks. And I fell in love with them. Have probably owned 8-10 various Adamas II's. But EVER SO SLOWLY, I have warmed up to the looks of the Adamas I 6-string. Partly because there IS some slight technical advantages of the I over the II (hand matched bracing, for example). Little by little acceptence of the broccoli topped Adamas turned into admiration. I still think it looks bad from the back (big old blank slab), but front on it's really grown on me. EXCEPT for the Adamas I 12-string. Man THAT headstock is a freakng broccoli TREE. Way out of proportion, especially with the long 14 fret neck. It barely fits in the damn case! But the 6-string Adamas I, including the broccoli top and gay accoutrements has gained my respect, even if slight luke-warm.
Now the SLOTHEAD ... I can not think of a reason that all my guitars should NOT he slotheads. I love the looks and coolness factor. For me (I've had lots of practice) stringing a slot is everybit as easy as a paddlehead. The majority of guitars I own are slotheads. 4 out of 6 Martins, and about 75% of my Ovations are all slotheads. It's just personal preference, but to me they seem so much more classy that a paddle. Especially in a 12 fret configuration (which is also what most of my guitars are). As far as the broccoli topped Adamas Slothead, the 47RI and the OFC Guitar. These guitars pay homage to the original, and like it or not the original slothead (OSH) was the one that got it all started and holds a revered place in Ovation history. For this reason alone, the reissue and OFC guitar HAD TO HAVE the original style carved slotted headstock. You can certainly custom order other variations, but this is THE one in my opinion. Like a '56 Corvette - by todays standards you may not like the design. But it DID set a standard and holds a special place in Corvette fans hearts.
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Location: NJ | Uh, . . . Dave? . . . Corvette?? . . . 1953.
You have to take into consideration that over the course of 30 years, alot of us have had exposure to Adamas guitars and have been able to formulate comparative opinions, like/dislikes.
When I first saw an Adamas in the shop where mine came from, there wasn't an Adamas "line" (yet).
It was a new "concept" guitar by Ovation called the Adamas. It said "Ovation" on it. It was like seeing a concept car at the AutoShow, and they were rare (I was told 24 at the time). The concept and look were TOTALLY "off-the-wall" for 1976. The amalgam of a somewhat "old-fashioned" look along with cutting edge technology was very striking. Over the years, the model has changed, lines have blurred, and people formulate opinions . . .
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Location: south east Michigan | The blue & red sparkle tops are an aquired taste. I did not like them at first sight either. After you play a few of them and hear the sound they make, you eventually come around to appreciate them.
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Location: SoCal | There's nothing wrong with not like a guitar's appearance. I have never liked the red burst top of the #47 RI. And the first LX 12 string with that butt ugly orange top.... not for me. I think I just made a comment like that on a thread for a Collectors that's on ebay.
There is a slight sound/technical difference in regard to the break angle over the nut. But a lot of it is whether the appearance appeals to you or not. There's no right or wrong answer on it.
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Location: Munich, Germany | When I started playing guitar at the age of six I had a very cheap, second hand kid's nylon classic - that I played for a very long time - later stringed with steel strings. All I ever dreamed of was one of those "adult's guitars" I have always seen on tv's music shows - with a paddle head and steel strings. Slothead always meant nylon for me - which just was not a real man's guitar for me.
After buying a lot of paddle O's with cutaway I ordered my custom Country Artist - and fell in love with the slothead-thing.
Today I am heading for any slothead Adamas or Ovation - without cutaway.
Isn't it fine to change his point of view sometimes? That makes it a greater variety of guitars to chose from.
Same with the Adamas textured tops. About three years ago I could not think of a more ugly guitar than them. Today I wish I would have one of them in each color (except for the faggy blue ones ;) ). |
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Location: East Tennessee | I love the look of a slothead guitar. Sort of a vintage appeal. Changing strings does take a little longer.
As I have gotten older I tend to like less bling on a guitar. I think Tupp has the best looking two.
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Location: CT | OK, back to this mysterious 'Break Angle' thing. What does this matter? On guitars with identical scale necks and string gauge, the tension is going to be the same for each string between the nut and the bridge, otherwise, it'll be out of tune. So how can the sound change if a string is pulled almost straight over the nut, or completely wrapped around an nailed to the back of the neck???? |
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When you did the search did you make sure that it was searching in the "general" forum and not one of the others?
I just did a search and came up with 241 matches. |
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Location: France | All my guitars are slotheads! I don't even know how to string a paddlehead guitar, never tried...
I just love the slotheads!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Tom_CA:
All my guitars are slotheads! I don't even know how to string a paddlehead guitar, never tried... That's why I love this guy! |
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Location: Omaha, NE | I like brunettes more than blonds, but really I'm only saying that because I married one.
I think slotted headstocks look cool. I don't like the Adamas carved headpiece thing at all. But I really like the look of the traditional Ovation headstock in slothead form. That works for me.
Restringing is a little more trouble. All the more reason not to restring so often. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by brainslag:
OK, back to this mysterious 'Break Angle' thing. What does this matter? On guitars with identical scale necks and string gauge, the tension is going to be the same for each string between the nut and the bridge, otherwise, it'll be out of tune. So how can the sound change if a string is pulled almost straight over the nut, or completely wrapped around an nailed to the back of the neck???? This is basic physics. Regardless of scale length, string guage, action, or whatever, the angle at which the strings pass over the bridge saddle is crucial to good tone. The less acute the angle the less efficiently the string energy can torque the top. The same principle applies to the angle at which the strings leave the nut, though the effect this actually has on tone is far more subtle.
One of the changes Ovation made in the early 70's was to reduce the headstock angle. While this makes a potentially weak area a little stronger it also reduces the break over the nut. One of lots of reasons why many people prefer the sound of the earlier guitars to the 70's output. |
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Location: Germany | IMHO:
There definitely IS something VERY special about all those Adams models! I love them on the one hand.
But if I buy one, I definitely would buy one very very simple. One with very much "understatement".
The carving on the custom legends is the most I can take. I absolutely agree, I hate that fancy old fashioned carving on many of the adams. It is just too much and too ... eyecancer. As well as some of the color shapes. But hey, I guess exactly that is, what makes them so special.
To me, an ovation IS the paddlehead! Although (speaking of the looks), a slothead is the most beautiful headstock shape to me.
This is created by a german trying to speak some kind of english :-)
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woooahh. Those are the most beautiful Adamas Ive ever seen! Simple, black, slothead! Great !!! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by fguki:
This is created by a german trying to speak some kind of english Far easier to understand than the Brit that posted before you!
Back to Professor Templeman. He's a gem. I plan to one day assemble all of his most excellent posts and create a reference book for all of us to share. Actually a three volume set:
Volume 1 - Guitar Physics and Acoustics
Volume 2 - Why I'm Smarter Than Jesus
Volume 3 - Lap Steel For Wankers
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Yes, those are nice slotheads.
But I change my strings a lot (for an amateur)
I really thought I'd get flamed for my previous post, but...
Anyway, not that I'd ever be able to afford one, but what would be the best sounding Adamas WITH a cutaway and WITHOUT bling? (sorry if this has been discussed) Tomorrow I will do a search for CMT and SMT so I know what Dave's talking about.
(It's 3:30am here, and the rain is just bucketting down. Impossible to sleep. And I just topped the pool up 2 days ago) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by muzza:
Anyway, not that I'd ever be able to afford one, but what would be the best sounding Adamas WITH a cutaway and WITHOUT bling? Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Tom_CA:
All my guitars are slotheads! I don't even know how to string a paddlehead guitar, never tried... I just love the slotheads!
Tom I'm just the opposite. I've never owned a slothead, although there appears to be one in my future. |
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Location: NJ | ". . Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR . ."
I was gonna suggest the exact same thing . . . |
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". . Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR . ."
and if I remember correctly, VERY reasonably priced.
I believe Jeff custom ordered it through Al. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by stephent28:
Lanika,
When you did the search did you make sure that it was searching in the "general" forum and not one of the others?
I just did a search and came up with 241 matches. yup, my search was in "general". i tried again last evening and got 14 matches. perhaps the servers are not always "with it"?
at any rate, based on the number of posts to this thread already, it seems as if this subject doesn't mind getting re-hashed again and again...
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Didn't Framus build the bodies for the Storm Series guitars ?
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Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Didn't Framus build the bodies for the Storm Series guitars ?
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Location: big island | in the late 60's, when i was just taking an interest in guitars (i started out in life as a drummer :cool: ), some relative gave me a Framus 12 string guitar. the headstock angled forward instead of rearward. i did not keep the guitar for long. the action was unplayable and it didn't take long for my 12 year old self to figure that out. i began to think the string tension bent the headstock forward until i saw other Framus guitars with the same design. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Goober:
Originally posted by Tupperware:
Didn't Framus build the bodies for the Storm Series guitars ?
Dave I thought they were a whole Schaller thing, but I could be wrong. I was told that by Howard Gainer at the time. I wonder where that wiley coyote is now? |
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Location: Germany | I think Dave is right. Schaller started in 1945 with repairing radio sets (that was particular important for that time). He had very early contact to American GIs and developed a close friendship to them. As he was an average musician but an excellent technician he wanted to give the music more sound, in his own style: The Schaller hardware. He also produced guitar amps in the 60th and 70th, but never wooden guitar parts.
To my knowledge the Storm bodies and necks were made by Framus. The factory was only a few miles from my home - but unfortunately an bankrupcty proceedings was introduced in the mid 70th. Today there is a metal working company in that building.
Currently I start organizing an European OFC gathering at the Schaller factory in June or July (the factory is a stone's throw away from my home). Hope to bring some of my virtual friends together there.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Back to Professor Templeman. He's a gem. I plan to one day assemble all of his most excellent posts and create a reference book for all of us to share. Actually a three volume set:
Volume 1 - Guitar Physics and Acoustics
Volume 2 - Why I'm Smarter Than Jesus
Volume 3 - Lap Steel For Wankers
Read on ....
Dave Please, Dave, Please! Let me help you edit this tome.
... and FWIW, I think the Original SlotHeads (and subsequent RI's) are Art. |
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Location: SoCal | Frankly, I like the design of the slothead. Yet, I have the slothead and standard headstocks. I don't care if 12 fret or 14 fret, even the bowl size/non-cutaway/cutaway (although I have found the deep bowl non-cutaway is what I prefer).
To me, what is more important is all facets of the guitar combined. Sounds good, plays well, looks good.
I started "observing" the OFC in early 2003...up to that time, wood top with rosette was as extreme as I could go. I had bought a slothead Custom Legend 12-str in 1980 that excelled over any other 12-str I had owned or merely played.
Although I hadn't played an Elite, bought one off of eBay. Then Woz sold me his Millennium (CVT). Again, hadn't played any of the Adamas models. My first Adamas I (1687), again without being able to play one first.
Then, a number of Custom Legend and Collector center holes, Elite style of wood tops (to include two 1537's), Adamas (1681, 1688 12-str, 1685 12-str, four 1687's, 47RI, two SMT's, etc., etc.
Every Ovation and Adamas guitar that I have had an opportunity to own or merely play have impressed me in their voice, quality, and beauty. Some with abalone, some beautiful in their simplicity such as the 2005C. As said, a lot of different flavors.
As to the Adamas textured top (Adamas I & II, U681T, and the 47RI), you need to play them...hold them, caress them, play them. Whatever headstock, whatever bridge...you will never look at a guitar the same. I had others talk about the Adamas sound and how it should be a textured top...you must play one to understand. I have not lost any respect for my wood tops or the CVT/SMT but I am still in awe of the textured top Adamas.
An aside, the 47RI and the Adamas I are exquisite...from the carved bridge to the headstock.
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Jeff W.'s U681 cutaway. AWESOME GUITAR. You mean this one?
Yup. That's more like it. But the spangly colour? Is that what makes it sound so good? |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | And No-one mentiones that a Slothead requires certain strings to be wound many times ,in order to avoid contact with the wood,what could/would cause tuning problems,where the general consensus is that, the fewer windings,the better tuning stability...go figure..condensor mics with FET`s or Valve ,Omni or Cardioid , Big Capsule or small cap. ..and the Beat goes on.. ;)
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by cliff:
I always thought of mine as an Artistic SoundPump . . . Cliff, You make that sound so... dir-tay.
hey, Muzzie, for a small re-occurring monthly subscription fee, I can post ya pics of me playing that Adamas, nak'd and wearing matching sparkly red eye shadow. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | That sounds fine Jeff. You've got a deal.
You put the subscription directly into my bank account every month (in US$) and you can send me as many photos as ya want, wearin any colour eye shadow ya want, playin any instrument ya want. :p
Will you be usin the rope that's in the photo? :eek:
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Enfant Terrible aka V-Elite:
And No-one mentiones that a Slothead requires certain strings to be wound many times ,in order to avoid contact with the wood That's a design flaw on ovation slots. The angles are wrong. Other companies slots do not have this issue. I could post pics but I'd get blasted. Dave |
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Location: PDX | Originally posted by Tupperware:
That's a design flaw on ovation slots. The angles are wrong. Other companies slots do not have this issue. I could post pics but I'd get blasted. Dave Actually, i'd be very interested in the comparison photo's. I can lend you my fire fighting gear if you need it.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | FOR THE RECORD. I never mentioned Martin, or any other company by name wrt this issue. I was only stating the obvious geometry problem that the angles of the Ovation headstock are not optimum. Probably other brands suffer this as well. BUT, there certainly ARE some other brands that have done the math such that the strings never contact the wood of the peghead.
Maybe these other brands with beautifully configured slotted headstocks with no string rub actually sound like crap, are ugly, play horriby, electronics suck, etc. But they got the match right on the design of the slots.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Actually ,it can be fixed easily,Solution ; Drill holes in pegs differently,But,the issue was about , Many Windings can cause Tuning/Instability :(
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Location: Keller, TX | Originally posted by muzza:
But the spangly colour? Is that what makes it sound so good? I didn't like the colors either so I ordered a 12 fret 2080. (Actually ordered a UTE cutaway, but ended up with this one).
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Location: Australia | I must admit when it comes to Adamai, I'm a textured top man myself but I have to say that's a pretty mean looking Adamas.
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Location: East Tennessee | ttenn,
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Location: Keller, TX | Sorry, although its not as bad here as up there, it only got up to 33 today.
I know its not 12 feet of snow, but 33 to us Texans is just downright unnatural. We are used to 100+ weather.
That photo was taken shortly after I got the guitar, around September. |
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Location: Wheeling, WV | I must say, those slothead guitars in all of those pics on this thread look pretty sweet to me. Wish i could hear them. I've never had much chance to play an Adamas. What do you guys think is different about the sound, compared to the other ovations? and, isn't there also wood and graphite tops? how do they differ in sound? everyone always seems impressed with them....i guess i'm gonna have to go get my hands on one...you guys have me wondering. |
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Location: ranson,wva | ive been lucky enough to play 2 #47's and a original slothead,#54(cliffs) and they are realy sweet guitars. the adamas top moves alot more than a wood top..more tone and volume..the tops are a sandwich of birch between 2 carbon fibre layers....verrry fine guitars...jason |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | If you're into wood and abalone, there's even a Custom Legend Slothead.
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Location: Cicero, NY | That is a gorgeous guitar. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | We hear very little of the Folklore LX6774, also a slot. If were going to buy a new Ovation, that guitar would be at the very top of my list.
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Location: closely held secret | Is that the royal "we", or do you gave a badger in your pocket? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I'd be a tad more interested in the Folklore LX if it was a 12 fretter. But still it's a very nice guitar.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | True. It would be suh-weet ifin itwer a 12 fretter. The badger and I would be most excited. |
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Location: NJ | I don't care what anyone says, THIS one is "th'Shizzle" :
"ONE of These Days" . . . I'll get my hairy arse across the Pond & play it . . . |
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Location: SoCal | Ditto what Clifford said...... |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | who belongs to that guitar Cliff? nice touch, on the seperate mike, martin is doing o lot of this seperate mike stuff now! |
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Location: Scotland | That would be me. It sounds as good as it looks. |
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Location: NJ | ". . martin is doing o lot of this seperate mike stuff now! . ."
How innovative.
What's yours, Paul? . . . about four years old, now?? . . . |
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Location: Scotland | It was built in June 2003, but Ovation did the mini-mic thing originally on I think the '95 collectors. I changed the set-up a little. The OPP has a bone saddle and goes via an Op50. The mike is indepenant and goes direct out on it's own XLR. I did that so I could send the mike signal to FOH only and keep it out of my monitors.
The mic is pretty useless by itself, but when mixed with the pickup (80% pickup, 20% mic) It adds sparkle and "air" that you just can't get from a pickup alone. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I have a handful of these bridges if anyone wants to cross over! Their from the 95 Collector.
Is that a custom touch on the end of the fretboard Paul? |
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Location: Scotland | it's the standard shape on the current Folklore, I think it's more noticible because of the binding |
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Location: SoCal | That's also an A braced top. When Temp was talking about that guitar, he originally wanted the 1614's X bracing. I'm proud to say that I talked him into to A braces. |
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