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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Opinions Please.
I'm looking for a super shallow that I will be able to get under my arm sooner after my surgery. It's been my opinion that the super shallows really don't sound good acoustically but plugged in they are fine. Is there any reason to spend a lot of cash on a US model rather than a Celebrity that I can pick up for under $200? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I thought this was a Paris Hilton thread... |
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Location: NJ | My opinion:
The USA model would offer better playability. |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | I've been a shallow bowl owner for the past three years. Unplugged; if you don't mind the weak sound [volume-wise], they have a bright and crisp clear tone. Plugged in, the sky's the limit as with all the other Ovations. I've since been the owner of a deep bowl CL, but in my opinion, the shallow bowls are much more comfortable to play. Especially, when you're playing it standing upright -- strapped on of course.
I'd shoot for a USA made balladeer as much as possible. Otherwise, a Korean-made Celebrity will do just fine, considering your budget. Good luck. |
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Location: Portland, OR | I have had an 1867 Legend for over 10 years, and always loved the way it sounds.. Medium strings, it has a beautiful tone. Compared with my 2078 deep bowl (with light strings), it most obvously lacks bass, volume and sustain. For the comfort of it, I really wouldn't discourage anyone from it unless you were performing with it acoustic only. For playing around with I've always thought it was a great guitar. If I had to choose between a used legend for around 500-600 or a new celebrity I definitley would go the Legend route. If its a used celebrity in the 200 range, that comes down to your own finances and how much you care about a few hundred. |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | Your not gonna get the sound you probably want from a laminate top, so get a US made shallow. I have one shallow, the 1868T, and it is an exceptionl guitar. It actually sounds great unplugged. Don't know if its the textured top or what, but I like. Plugged in, no limit. Also nice and light, comfortable to play. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Get an 84 and be done with it. |
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Location: ranson,wva | i had a 1567 legend ssb that sounded totaly awsome unplugged, not sure what made it sound as good as it did but i havnt found a ssb to replace it yet....jason |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I've been playing my 4861 SSB. I play it unplugged all the time, but today I plugged it in. Not loud, just playing with my new amp. When I unplugged it, the difference in sound/tone was so...strange. I usually don't switch-off like that, it just seemed so weird to me. I just strummed it now, and it sounds good, like always. The back-to-back comparison was scary.
Just thought I'd mention that...
[I might add, my Korean 4861 Balladeer cost me $391, with case and shipping. It has a solid top and a OP24+. I've seen them go for $500. I've seen them go for $175. Just FYI] |
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Location: Vermont USA | I have the S868 and I love it, I play it plugged and unplugged. I have never had any problems with projection when unplugged.
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | I found a nice one. 1861 Balladeer
I am really impressed with the sound. Bought from a great guy named Randy in Dyer, Indiana. He's a big time Ovation fan but wasn't aware of the board. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Nice. Be sure and let us know if you get tired of it when your shoulder heals. My CB gets a fair amount of play time, just because it is the easiest to get under the arm. |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Teamed up with my Shen Jr., it's hard to tell the difference between it and my Legend. 3-1/2 weeks is a long time to go without. Although I'm limited to about 10min before I start hurting, it's worth it. |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | By the way, if anyone else is looking, Al has a really nice shallow balladeer. It was just a tad over my budget but sure is pretty. |
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Location: big island | "I am really impressed with the sound. Bought from a great guy named Randy in Dyer, Indiana. He's a big time Ovation fan but wasn't aware of the board."
Announcing the first annual OFC get-together just for guys named "Randy"...
sheesh, i have found more randys on this forum than i have met in my life. i wonder if randy jackson plays an o? then again, after watching him play bass for journey, perhaps i don't wanna know. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Good luck with it, Bill. |
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Location: big island | oh, yeah. sure hope it works out for ya bill! (i'm ba-a-a-ad!) |
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Location: CT | Originally posted by cwk2:
Get an 84 and be done with it. Does the '84 sound that much better than my '83? Should I replace it? Anyway, don't get a Celibacy. I had a SSB that sounded like rubber bands on a tissue box, with a neck that hurt my hand to play it (and it was a more upscale model!), got the '83 to replace it. I'd take a US O with some scratches and a few finish checks for the build quality, playability and sound over a brand new Celebrity. |
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| SSBs sound just great unplugged - they're just not loud that's all. I think they are actually the most perfectly balanced string to string guitars that O make. Such a sweet sound. A thin body wood box sounds pathetic in comparison.
Have fun Bill. And remember - alcohol, the guitar player's friend. Kills the pain, deafens the ears. |
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Location: Texas | cwk2 said: "...Get an 84 and be done with it..."
yep! best ssb ever. |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Would that be the 1984 collectors? |
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Location: ranson,wva | that would be the one...jason |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | Good luck with your guitar Willard. I used to own a 1861 and I have nothing to say but positive remarks about the three-year partnership that I had with it. Hopefully, your experiences with the 1861 will be as fruitful as mine. |
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Location: closely held secret | Mine has been to Africa with me. Survived the trip better than I did.
For reasonably priced USA SSB's, these are great guitars! |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | Hope you enjoy the 1861 Willard. I've got a ssb 1860 which I bought new 13 years ago. I'm generally only a home guitarist so the lack of volume is not a problem for me. With my playing skills it might actually be a good thing lol.
At 43 I've recently joined my first garage band and playing this guitar plugged in is an absolute joy and a revelation.
Hope the shoulder heals well |
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Location: Lakewood, Ohio | I played a Celebrity 2001 Ltd. edition (solid top)back to back with an Elite and i couldnt hear much if any difference in the sound. The neck and tuners on the Elite were nicer, but it also cost twice as much. However, I recently played a quilt top cherryburst Celebrity (laminate)that sounded dull and muted. I would try to play as many as you can before deciding. |
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