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Location: south east Michigan | I read that this morning and almost posted the link. But I figured it would be better if I got to work on time.
Girls with guitars.... nothing wrong with that.
Wasn't there a country song about that a few years ago?? |
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Location: NJ | I wish i was the marketing genius that came up with this.
gender specific instruments. what a crock of crap.
why girl guitars? because they will sell.
how about girl
drums
trumpet
violin
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Somebody said the same thing in the article, except he was a little more polite. Maybe he was in marketing. |
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Location: NJ | smacks of SexualDiscrimination, t'me . . . . |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | ....and I suppose a kitty just won't get 'em into the car anymore either....
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Location: closely held secret | Genius, actually.
Once the MP's create a world of 'gender-specific' guitars, they'll be able to reissue the current guitars as 'trans-gender' models... |
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Location: GA USA | A girl at our church walked in one day with a bright pink Daisy Rock acoustic. We all loved it. Played pretty well too. |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | I think it's a great idea--most of you have no idea how heavy a Les Paul becomes when you're 5'5" and weigh about 120 pounds. The same for one of our own solid-body O basses (which I adored playing.) That's why my bass is a Steinberger--the weight differential really is important for this member of the female-folk. I might have started guitar a lot sooner if the Daisy options had been available 40 years or so ago; when my little cuties are bigger, Grandma will definitely be in the market for one (or two)....
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Location: NJ | karen
young boys also have the same size and hand restrictions of girls and there are not boy guitars.
sorry this is a subject that just turns my stomach |
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Location: Ballston Lake, N.Y. | Chrissie Hynde don't use no girl guitar! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm going to invent a doggie guitar. I'm trying to incorporate a tonge that slobbers all over there and a tail that wags. I just wanted you to know, so you don't try to steal my idea. |
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Location: NJ | Now, . . . THAT'S just "wrong" . . . . |
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Location: NJ | Speaking of "wrong" :
The DaisyRock Poster BoyToy |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Tools for the band covering old Archies, Banana Splits, and Hudson Brothers... |
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Location: big island | edited. never mind... |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | If the ultimate goal is to get future guitar players, does it really matter what color or brand grabs their attention when they are starting out? They're beginning! They're playing! And those who stick with it will eventually graduate to quality guitars like we have--and if I do my job right, hopefully my little cuties will grow into their grandma's guitars down the road, and the legacy will be passed down.
I certainly didn't start out on an Ovation--but I sure appreciated Gertrude when I had the chance to make her acquaintance.
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| You're very wrong al - sorry.
Take it from somebody with a very musically talented daughter, VERY tall for her age, that we bought her bass at the age of 13 not by sound, colour, brand or anything but by weight.
Anything that gets little kids able to pick up a guitar and actually be able to play it without damaging their backs for life is a GOOD THING.
And we won't even go near the difference of shape at the front which is a source of GREAT EMBARRASSMENT to girls of that age - it's no coincidence that those Daisy Rock guitars are small as well as light. That's why they sell. Not because they're pink.
And if you're right and I'm wrong, where are all those great girl guitar players from the 60s, 70s and 80s? Or was it a statistical blip that for 3 decades on a planet with 6 billion people not a single female guitar superstar appeared? They couldn't pick the f0000in' things up. It was only when Ibanez and Yamaha introduced their super-skinny bodied speed-machines that suddenly girls started really getting into it.
Very wrong al, very wrong. |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | Like Al, I don't like the thought of gender specific guitars. People are people and guitars are guitars.
However, my 10 year old daughter has seen the Kitty guitars and wants one. So if this sparks an interest and will encourage her to play it's got to be a good thing.
Like Karen said, it's not like she's gonna play one of these for the rest of her life... but starting on one could well help her to become a lifelong guitar player. I reckon everyone on this planet should play guitar.
So rock on girls. :) :) |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by schroeder:
where are all those great girl guitar players from the 60s, 70s and 80s? Or was it a statistical blip that for 3 decades on a planet with 6 billion people not a single female guitar superstar appeared? Rickie Lee Jones, Emmylou Harris, Bonnie Raitt, Nancy Wilson, Janis Ian, Joan Armatrading, Joan Jett, Joni Mitchell, Tracy Chapman....
But I do agree with you about the guitars, they have their purpose. |
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| They are all three chord strummers (tho Joni's are a weird 3 chords). Bonnie Rait is a really good singer but she gets the nod on her guitar playing because she's a girl playing dirty blues slide guitar, not because she's a great slide player. I am a big Emmylou fan and a massive Tracy Chapman fan - but they ain't famous for their guitar playing (I nearly wrote "they ain't famous for their licks").
Let the girls rock!! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I have little energy over the ergonomics and marketing of guitars on a gender basis...
they could make girl/boy pianos, cellos, basses, harmonicas, banjos, flutes, drumsticks....
I have no doubt that women would design any and/or all of these differently...
and many men would say... "how come I didn't think of that?!" |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Full scale guitars were too big for me when I started playing at about age 9. I don't remember the weight being a problem, but more the size of the frets for small hands, something I still suffer with. I guess I found relief in the fact that my "learning" guitar was a 1957 Gibson ES-125 3/4T borrowed for 8 years from a truck driving neighbor. It was light and the neck scale was small. I also recall that there were a lot of guitar playing women singing country western in the 1940s. Also, don't discount the impact and role of societal/cultural influence. In the 1960s, boys had a lot more role models playing guitars in the top 40 than girls, so it seems logical that more boys bought and played guitars than girls. On the other hand, there were many more girls enrolled in piano class than boys, and during all the years I took tap dancing lessons, the ratio was about 100 to 1 in favor of the girls, a ratio I eventually learned to appreciate. ;) |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | The 'other' reason to study ballet! ;)
Depending how they actually sound, I'm kinda liking the look of those guitars myself. I wasn't kidding about the bubblegum cover band!
Sugar, Sugar is still a great dance song arrangement of a black gospel call/response song...
Whataya think:
The Hello Kitties,
My Little Poni,
The Jugheads,
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Location: closely held secret | Schroed, most boys who play guitar ain't that great either. For some a third chord would be a huge leap. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by fillhixx:
Whataya think:
The Hello Kitties,
My Little Poni,
The Jugheads,
or ? Josie and the Pussycats? |
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Location: NJ | schroeder
I am right. I said I am against gender specific instruments NOT 3/4 or 1/2 size instruments. these are needed for both girls AND boys. I did not start on a full size guitar and would not have been able to.
when i am in doubt i always go to my lovely wife for the final word she is a bass player and when she saw the daisy rock stuff she was appalled and thought of it as only a marketing gimmick.
as for women guitarists
jennifer batten
lita ford
carol kaye
girls school
the slits
and the list goes on and on.
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| Only carol kaye dates back and she always played sitting down (leastways every picture I ever saw of her).
The Daisy Rocks aren't 3/4 size (not the ones I've seen anyway) - they just don't weigh a ton. And to young girls the idea that there are guitars that are designed with them in mind seems to get through to them - a lot of my daughter's friends who have never played an instrument before have stuck a toe in the water with the Daisy Rocks. ANYTHING that gets them out from in front of a tv and into a cold, miseraqble rehearsal room is a good thing. Let them suffer like I did. |
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Location: GA USA | I love this thread just for the Tup pic. Personally, I think they're groovy looking guitars. And one more thing, fillhixx, I hope you're not knocking the Banana Splits! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by schroeder:
Let them suffer like I did. Father Brennan still playing w/....teaching, the choir?
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Not at ALL Cpt! I can't recall a single song, but I do recall not admitting to the younger children of my aquaintance that the music was halfway decent. (I was in the teen area then, but the ears were always open)
Talked a straight up country-rock band I was in once into learning Sugar, Sugar. They were impressed with the actual musicality of the tune, but still refused to perform it in public. |
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Location: Tennessee | It the age old advertising axiom -- sex sells. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
It the age old advertising axiom -- sex sells. yeah, but i wouldn't wanna play guitars like these towards the bottom of the page...
http://funny-town.blogspot.com/2007/01/guitar-designs.html |
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Location: south east Michigan | If it makes kids of any gender pick up a guitar I wouldn't care if it was a Fishsticks Signature Model.
Picking up a guitar can be very frustrating until you master some simple basic chords. If the looks of the guitar, be it pink flowers or the Dimebag Darrel look helps get them over that hump, so be it. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Banana Splits I may have to rethink that. They stole Snaggle Tooths voice!
The Archies (Andy Kim in this case) Sugar Sugar does stand the test of time though, IMNSHO.
And who can forget the 'cutting edge' mixture of live action and annimation that was The Hudson Brothers Razzle Dazzle Show?
Even the Aussies had their own The Valentines. (Is Bon Scott still trying to live this down?) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | My daughters were a little older when they got into guitar, so fortunately, they missed the Hello Kitty guitars.
The only input I have received from them on the gender issue is that contour bowls are not made for breasts. Some of you guys might be able to offer an opinion on that, too. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by schroeder:
I am a big Emmylou fan and a massive Tracy Chapman fan...
Let the girls rock!! This is why we love each other. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | What's the problem with gender specific guitars? You build and market what ever you need to in order to pay the bills. Ovation has been making those mellisa guitars for years. Or maybe they are alternative-sexual-preference guitars, who knows and who cares as long as they sell. As for daisy rock and all that hello kiddy stuff, I think it's really cool. Btw, the silver daisy 12-string is a-fuggin-mazing for the money. About every 6 months or so quiffy posts that photo of me playing the daisie. go ahead and get your laffs. I think it's a cool guitar for $300. To a color blind person, a pink guitar will look grey. Just like an eric johnson strat, so what's the big friggin deal.
I understand your point Al, it's not JUST girls who need a smaller, lighter weight guitar. Maybe daisy is being a little too restrictive. Young boys, midgets and those who's mothers OD'd on phalidimide also could use an alternative to a full on Les Paul. I get that. Girl guitars was obviously the easiest market to go after. Will any of these little tykes turn out to be the next Bonnie Rait? Probably not, but you never know. So why limited their chances? Maybe we'd (you'd) be less offended if daisy opened it up to all sexes and phyical handicaps and just called them Lazy Rock guitars.
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Location: Marlton, NJ | The guitar that I got my son for Christmas could have definitely been marketed for young boys - black with flames on it - extremely light weight. If not for that he'd have been playing the Squire which he inherited from his younger sister and didn't like it at all. For $200, his guitar is head and tails over those that are marketed to beginners. |
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http://www.greatkat.com/ |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | I'd also add Joyce Cooling, Joanna Connor, Kris Wiley & Melanie Mason. |
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Piano: Marcia Ball
Sax: Mindi Abair
Bass: Sarah Brown |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | So, according to Al and Jeff W, there are 130 'famous' Yankee ladies, 45 'famous' Canuck chickies, 12 'famous' Pommie wimmin and one 'famous' Aussie babe...
...and I've only heard of about a dozen of them.
...and I don't have a problem with gender specific guitars. I've got a 7 year old daughter that would love one. Probably wouldn't play it, but she'd love one anyway. |
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Location: GA USA | Okay. I have proof that Daisy Rock is cool.
There's one featured in the new Dinosaur Jr. video "Been There All The Time".
Here.
BTW, DJ has a new, yes NEW album out in the US May 1st. Life is good. This is easily one of my top five all time favorite bands. They are the ultimate garage rock group to me. |
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