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Location: Corvallis, OR | OFC is a site that actively discourages debate and comments about the Iraq war, which is taking American lives on a regular basis.
But when the life a a pet is taken, comments and debate are OK !
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Location: closely held secret | 4fingers, there are plenty of sites you can go to to discuss and debate war and politics, if you are so inclined.
However, if you go there and make ludicrous arguments like the one stated above, they will eat you alive.
Somehow I doubt debating Iraq on an internet board aimed at Ovation guitar owners is going to save many lives. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Nicely put John.
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Location: NJ | ". . Apparently, pets are more valuable than people . ."
Depends on the people. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | 4fingers,
The idea is to keep the main topic of the site, Ovation Guitars, as exciting and as enthusiastic as possible. Preamp choices, rants about website updates, sticking GC TRC's on everything you own are all fair game. bring it to a high furver.
Let me add bad spelling to that.
If you want to argue politics or Socio-religious values please go enlist the appropriate venue.
The occasional snow story, Pet food warning, Llama's storm the White House story is a diversion and should be minimized.
Try www.seattlepi.com and let your voice be heard!
Personnaly I applaud your conviction. I wish there were more people in Seattle that could make stinking decision!
Don't let it frustrate you. Don't try to pour wine from a milk carton. |
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(not that i am against the right to bear arms...) I would vote against arming bears though... |
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Location: big island | are we talking state trooper type bears? they need their arms! |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by MWoody:
I wish there were more people in Seattle that could make stinking decision! You stink, therefore you is? |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | '...and pic-y-nic bas-kets too, Mr Ranger?"
(Boy, it's next to impossible to pull off a Yogi Bear impersonation in a Board.) |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Hey, you think this stuff comes out of thin air? It takes effort, you know... |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | I think this country needs to get back to the really important questions like: WHO IS THE FATHER OF ANNA NICOLE'S BABY??? |
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Location: Corvallis, OR | Facts are facts !
Facts are facts, and you can't argue with facts.
Fact 1- The Iraq war is "off limits" on this site,(including American soldiers losing eyes, limbs, and their life)
Fact 2- Discussion of pet deaths is OK
fact 3- No one has submitted a logical or impressive reason why this is so.
Fact 4- The best submitted reason why I am wrong is that "people dont agree with me."
Fact 5- The facts can speak for themselves.Are you willing to step up to the plate and take a swing at facts ? |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | I don't think anyone on this board is pro war, and I'm sure every one here would like to see our young men and women come home today, the question is how to wind down from a situation this country is already deeply entrenched.
I have elected representation in Washington DC debating this issue for me, I'm not going to waste the precious resorces of this board (which someone else is paying for) to debate this issue.
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Location: SoCal | It's amazing to me how on some days, there's the "perfect storm" that converges here, where everybody at the same time is bored out the their gords with their jobs and uses this board as an inane outlet (I include myself in this).
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Almost like Christmas sometimes, eh? |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | Don't you guys have any work to do?
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Location: Omaha, NE | You don't like the way this board is run? That's good. Get off your dead ass and start one of your own and run it any way you like.
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That Viper is just crying for a Koa or walnut Burl pickguard.
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the guitar or the snake? |
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That is an excellent Calendar candidate by the way!
See, this is a great site! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | To discuss item of political interest to one country (mainly) is to snub the interests and affiliations of the many thousands around the world who post and lurk here. People come here because they are interested in Ovation guitars...(It's The Ovation Fan Club, 'member?)...in whatever their personal capacity.
To attempt hijack it for any personal issue is juvenile and narrowminded. No matter how important that issue may seem to an individual.
Do we Canucks (and Northern State citizens) bug everyone about the stupid shoot out rule in NHL hockey? No.
Do the old guys here whine about how our commie/socialist medical system will pay for our DRE prostate exams but not the PSA test? No.
Do we come and bitch about being left to clean up the mess in Afghanistan? No.
It doesn't belong here.
And yes, discussion of some pet issues (and Llamas) will take precendence over some that seem more urgent. I can do something about saving my pets life, as a Canadian (Brit/Aussie/Pole/Manx/Frank/etc) I can do nothing about the USA military situation.
This is our happy place, take your misery elsewhere.
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Why DOES Hawaii have an Interstate? |
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| In case shitferbrains is struggling here - could someone point out to him that this is The Ovation Fan Club and not The American Owners of Ovations Fan club? I mean I'm curious about you guys' views on our Constitutional Monarchy but I don't cpome here to read about it.
The French have a Presidential Election coming up - does SFB have views on that he would like to share here?
Something for the Norwegians, the Danes, the Germans, the Australians, the Thai??????
The scary thing is guys like this get the same number of votes as people who can tell the difference between a guitar group and a politics board. |
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Location: Tychy, Poland | Originally posted by 4fingers:
Fact 1- The Iraq war is "off limits" on this site,(including American soldiers losing eyes, limbs, and their life)
Fact 2- Discussion of pet deaths is OK
fact 3- No one has submitted a logical or impressive reason why this is so.
Fact 4- The best submitted reason why I am wrong is that "people dont agree with me."
Fact 5- The facts can speak for themselves.Are you willing to step up to the plate and take a swing at facts ? First of all, it's an international forum, and we don't want to start WW III.
Point of view depends on point of sit.
And you have members in all ages, and people who can speak the same language about ovations, may not be able to understand other persons thoughts or point of view because of age/ethnicity or nationality.
And every lenghty political discussion on internet ends with people calling each other "Fascist" or "Hitler" or "idiot". And for what?
And if you are interested in opinion of particular people, you can always ask them by pm.
I hope i haven't made many mistakes. I've had a bad day and i hope to get to bed in 40 minutes.
have a nice day
MWoody:
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/hawaii01.htm
they have 3 :D
maybe they wait for some more isles to arise from the sea? |
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Location: SoCal | To discuss item of political interest to one country (mainly) is to snub the interests and affiliations of the many thousands around the world who post and lurk here.
I didn't know we had that much power! Ok, here's what's wrong with the rest of the world........
Nah, I can't. Al would get mad. Yeah, like that's ever stopped me before! |
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Location: closely held secret | Uh, ok. I'll take a 'swing' at the facts. I've got nothing better to do right now...
Originally posted by 4fingers:
Fact 1- The Iraq war is "off limits" on this site,(including American soldiers losing eyes, limbs, and their life) Not true at all. We have several members who have either served, are serving or have children serving. I'm sure most here are not blind to the painful truths of war, though few would disrespect those who protect our freedom by using them as a basis to try to stir up trouble, as you have.
The war is not off limits. Discussion of the politics of the war is, because it serves no purpose here other than to cause division and bad feelings. As I said before (if you were paying attention) there are other boards specifically for that purpose. Good luck to you there, given the argumentative skills you've displayed thus far.
Originally posted by 4fingers:
Fact 2- Discussion of pet deaths is OK I'm not sure why this bothers you so much. Did you recently lose a loved pet? If so, I'm sorry for your loss. If not, please don't compare the value of human life to that of animal life. It's offensive.
Originally posted by 4fingers:
fact 3- No one has submitted a logical or impressive reason why this is so. See fact 2.
Originally posted by 4fingers:
Fact 4- The best submitted reason why I am wrong is that "people dont agree with me." Please. There are few things as annoying as people who think the universe revolves around them.
Originally posted by 4fingers:
Fact 5- The facts can speak for themselves.Are you willing to step up to the plate and take a swing at facts ? I'm not sure why you ask this, as your arguments are so blatantly devoid of facts. You have taken completely unrelated themes (war, tainted pet food) and tried to somehow tie them together in an attempt to make us feel guilty for not playing your little game.
The fact is, this board is named the "OVATION FAN CLUB", not the "MORALITY OF WAR DEBATE CLUB", or the "LET'S ARGUE ABOUT POLITICS UNTIL WE HATE EACH OTHER CLUB". Most of us happen to like (or at least tolerate) each other, and a political free-for-all would accomplish nothing.
So, in a nutshell, that's just the way it is. If you don't like the movie, get up and leave. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by shovel:
in poland we have freedom of speech
in usa you have freedom after speech :p
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Location: Upper Left USA | Don't make me stop this website and come back and kick your...
In Poland you can say something only once before you dissapear, never to be found.
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Location: Tychy, Poland | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Originally posted by shovel:
in poland we have freedom of speech
in usa you have freedom after speech :p
sad but true...especially last few years. I don't get it.
With last change of governament, things had gone really baad way. Jurnalists are being disrespected and some ended up in jail.
There is only one truth - the truth that governament says and everything else is a false.
Basically.
You still can express your opinion. But you can't be sure if you wont end up in jail.
BTW:
as a bulls fan, i used to read Chicago Tribune sports section daily. That really helped me to learn everyday english.
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mwoody:
maybe not disappear, but you could get a 1-2 years in prison sentence, or for example 4 years of probation... |
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Location: closely held secret | Speaking of DVD's, a whole bunch - see, on any other board I could say a lot, but like politics... but I digress.
A load went out Saturday, so if you see a brown package in your mailbox, and you don't subscribe to any of those magazines, don't be too quick to call the bomb squad.
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(small fish - no name - I'm over it)
And my Balladeer is playin' sweeeet. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by shovel:
Basically.
You still can express your opinion. But you can't be sure if you wont end up in jail.
Ah-ha!
Got it! Thanks, Shovel! I missed the nuances.
Originally posted by MWoody:
I just realized that I am getting much, much better answers from a guy in Poland than I am from someone in my backyard... Maybe you should stop spending so much time with the pool boy. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by MWoody:
So, Lanaki
Why DOES Hawaii have an Interstate? very interstating question, mike. it should be an "intrastate".
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Location: Upper Left USA | 4fingers,
My apologies. I now realize what you are going through.
Protesters march in Seattle against War
Often, after a band practice or a set I just want to keep on going. It's like "come on guys, just a few more songs!". It's harsh.
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Is give peas a chants!"
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Lanaki:
Originally posted by MWoody:
So, Lanaki
Why DOES Hawaii have an Interstate? very interstating question, mike. it should be an "intrastate".
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Waskel
They plan to finish connecting it to I-8 in San Diego when the get around to it... 
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Location: closely held secret | Gosh, that's funny, Phil!
Are you drinking already? |
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I think I may need to retire really early in life.
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Location: Upper Left USA | The interstate joke is one in a long line of George Carlin's Jumbo Shrimp routines.
Mark had the right answer of sorts. Hawaii has an Interstate because everyone else got funding for one. And more importantly, to connect the Air and Sea Ports.
The Subsidizing of the Interstates is actually based on the need to transport the Military during extreme need. So that 10' road easement in front of your house could revert to federal Property during Marshall Law!
That's why we need to end all War!
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Location: big island | next issue? already?
i ain't sure if hawaii's "interstates" are part of the eisenhower interstate network that now wends its
tentacles all over the U.S.
'tis ironic how eisenhower warned against the "military industrial complex" and now the NWO has named its marshall law use interstate after him.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by fillhixx:
Originally posted by Waskel
They plan to finish connecting it to I-8 in San Diego when the get around to it...
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Just don't ask me which room the "Book" I sent you spent most of its time in... |
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Location: NW Washington State | Originally posted by MWoody:
I won't be bidding on those tuners on Ebay any time soon though. Funny thing is, I bought them on eBay that way. They were pictured on a headstock, closeup of the tuners only. Shipping was a couple of bucks high but the price was OK. The box arrived larger and heavier than I expected. Inside was the headstock with the tuners still mounted. Nice set of older "Made in W Germany" Schallers. The guitar was an "American Acoustech".
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Gospel Guitar Guy:
You guys have been busy!!! :D Actually, I think some of us just don't have what would pass for real lives. I'm pretty sure 3 of us are actually 'bots', including me...
Miles: ah, yes. fond memories of working in REAL print shops (when there was lead)and things like the 'Original Birth Control Pill', place between legs and hold......... |
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Location: NJ | Ah, yes . . . actually "setting" type.
A couple of weeks ago, a friend of ours invited us over to help ourselves to whatever we wanted from her garage that she didn't want to take on her move to Fla.
Found two old type cases (one Bodoni and a Galliard). Said she bought 'em years ago when it was all the craze fill 'em with "curio's", put a piece of glass on top and make an end table out of 'em . . .
I laid the thing out in front of me and could ALMOST remember how to "run" the damn thing (aMAZEing the sh!t y'don't forget!).
Took 'em both.
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Location: Up North | I hear you brother.
I miss the days of technical pen ink on the back of my left index finger, cuts from scalpel blades, french curves, paintbrushes, rubylith, illustration board, wax, rubber cement (mmmmm. rubber cement fumes), airbrush overspray, stat cameras and PMT's, on and on |
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Location: NJ | Technical pens were too expensive & "high tech" in some of the places I've worked.
Remember "Ruling Pens"?? :
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | OK, the only thing in this whole thread that really caught my attention was the "no snakes" in Hawaii.
Is that for real? How is it that the island has no snakes. I thought it was a tropical region which would lend itself to snakes.
If I fell into the "fools" trap, then pat yourself on the back cause you had me going.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | by the way....at least our troll got the topic correct!
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Location: Up North | True Dat!
I like how the thread just took off in about a hundred directions, with no one falling into the no-win political debate trap. |
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Location: closely held secret | Stephen, Hawaii has no indigenous snakes. Not hard to understand considering it's location.
From what I understand, the only one that has been introduced (accidentally) is the 'blind snake' which looks more like a worm and eats insects which are also not native. |
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Location: Isle of Man, UK | Originally posted by fillhixx:
...as a Canadian (Brit/Aussie/Pole/Manx/Frank/etc)... I I'm just happy I got a mention!
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Stephen, Hawaii has no indigenous snakes. Not hard to understand considering it's location.
Hmmmmm, what am I missing? Plenty of islands have snakes. What makes the Hawaiian islands so special? |
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Location: big island | stephen,
hawaii is the most remote land mass on earth. when the undersea volcanoes that formed hawaii finally broke through the ocean's surface, there were no life forms. the only way life forms could get here would be to drift from some other land mass across the ocean on an old log or something similar. birds from other areas were probably blown off course during a storm and ended up here, their droppings containing seeds they had eaten which sprouted. any other life forms had to be introduced over the centuries. captain cook is noted in history for "discovering" the "sandwich isles" but his ships are known to have brought cockroaches, rats, mice, mosquitoes, centipedes and spiders. his men brought venereal disease and measles which decimated the hawaiian population.
snakes were never introduced to the islands. if you wanna see a snake here, ya gotta go to the zoo. every once in a while someone will find a boa or python or some other pet snake that was brought in illegaly. who ever had it feared getting caught so they let it go or the snake escaped. there is a minimum $10,000 fine if someone is caught bringing a snake in or keeping one. hawaii fears that what happened in guam will happen here. it is rare to see a bird in guam. the brown tree snake, which is non-poisonous, has eradicated the bird population in guam. sometimes brown tree snakes will stowaway on planes from guam. the planes that land from there are under close supervision and any snakes found are destroyed. hawaii is too far from any other land for snakes that can swim to make it here. i recall back in the early 70's the coast guard spotted a major swarm of snakes swimming towards hawaii probably from japan area. they were about 1500 miles out. it seems the navy got involved and actually blew them up with some depth charges.
we ain't got skunks, squirrels, or armadilloes either.
we do have plenty wild pig, a few deer, some feral goats, some feral donkeys, lotsa wild chickens. the mongoose was introduced to some of the islands here many decades ago to help rid the rodent. you can go to kaua'i and see wild chickens all over the place cuz mongoose aren't there. seems the mongoose are more effective at chicken exterminating than at rat patrolling. we've got mongoose here on big island and not many wild chickens.
hawaii is on the top of the list for having the world's most threatened and close to extinction species of birds and plants. the government is very careful of protecting the endangered species which is why visitors here have to complete a detailed disclosure list on the plane before disembarking. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | WOW, You learn something new everyday.
THANK YOU....that was very informative and an interesting read. |
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Location: closely held secret | Oh sure, you believe him... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | He explained it, you didn't.
Nuff said. |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Lanaki has all kinds of good information, just don't ask him about digestive tracts. :eek: |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Lanaki:
hawaii is the most remote land mass on earth. I thought Easter Island had that title wrapped up? |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Hey Numbfingers.
What's happened to your grumpy cousin, 4fingers???
Has the international membership given him the 2 fingers? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Mongooses don't do rat patrol? |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Al, please delete this. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | let it go.
Al's on an airplane today. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | This will go on our permanent records???
I'll try to be nicer when they try to be smarter. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | DUUHHHHHH
Which way did they go
Which way did they go |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Woody....
Congrats on passing the 8K mark........
(but checking on my first of year predictions, Jeff is still on track!) |
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Location: SoCal | Clifford's got over 9200 posts!!!! I remember when I was the number 1 poster on the board. Thank god I got a life and was saved from that fate...... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I just love the way we can work together to take a bitchy thread that we all wish would die a quick death by abandonment....and turn it into another humourous and informative discussion.
 
Or informative and humourous, whichever |
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Location: Upper Left USA | So when he hits 10000 will it show all zeroes?
When I hit 10000 does it mean that I'm a Zero? |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by an4340:
Mongooses don't do rat patrol? i guess chicken tastes better. and guess what mongoose tastes like...? |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by muzza:
Originally posted by Lanaki:
hawaii is the most remote land mass on earth. I thought Easter Island had that title wrapped up? |
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Location: Tychy, Poland | what about Pitcairn? |
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Location: NJ | I thought it was St. Helena (where they shipped Napoleon off to) . . . . |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | by definition of proximity to next nearest land mass... Hawaii is the most remote place on earth |
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Location: big island | well said, jeff. thanks for clearing the volcanic air! |
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Location: closely held secret | He's usually better at clearing a room... because of the air. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I fart, therefore, I am. |
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Location: big island | therefore, we all are.
ka-boom!!! there goes the neighborhood! |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by cwk2:
let it go.
Al's on an airplane today. No, I meant my post. I thought about what I'd written and the humour didn't come across, so I asked Al to delete my post, not the thread. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | No, no... I think most of us are old enough to remember M*A*S*H, the movie and the poster.
Two fingers in Britain (& Oz apparently)
means the same as
One finger in North America
and the answer to the original question is, yes. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
by definition of proximity to next nearest land mass... Hawaii is the most remote place on earth But... Hawaii is only a few miles away from Maui.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_points_of_the_world#Remoteness
http://geography.about.com/od/specificplacesofinterest/a/tristandac...
According to WikiPedia;
The most remote island is Bouvet Island, an uninhabited and small Norwegian island in the South Atlantic Ocean. It lies at coordinates 54°26?S 3°24?E. The nearest land is the uninhabited Queen Maud Land, Antarctica, over 1600 km away to the south. The nearest inhabited land are Tristan da Cunha, 2260 km away and South Africa, 2580 km away.
The most remote archipelago is the British Tristan da Cunha Islands in the South Atlantic Ocean, 2816 km (1750 miles) from South Africa and 3360 km (2088 miles) from South America. This is also the most remote inhabited archipelago.
The most remote, major inhabited city is either Honolulu, Hawaii or Perth in western Australia, depending upon one's definition of "remote" and "major." There are no settlements within 3800 km of Honolulu or within 2200 km of Perth larger than the 30,000 to 50,000 population range (Hilo, Hawaii and Geraldton and Kalgoorlie, Australia.
If it's on the internet, it must be true! ;)
This subject sparked my interest - I always thought it was Easter Island, but the above 2 references keep coming up with the various searches I've been doing. No mention of Hawaii except for Lanaki and JeffW. |
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Location: NJ | I'm not positive, but I think St. Helena is/was part of the Tristan da Cunha archipelago . . . |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Cliff, you were right all along, you clever b*****d! :D
Courtesey of Wikipedia again...
Saint Helena is an island of volcanic origin and a British overseas territory in the South Atlantic Ocean. The territory consists of the island of Saint Helena, as well as the dependencies of Ascension Island and Tristan da Cunha. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Helena
Ozwatto, Tassie doesn't get a mention, but Perth does. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | from: 'Navigation in the Information Age: Potential Use of GIS for Sustainability and Self-Determination in Hawai`i'
-Cogswell and Schiøtz, 1996
"Hawai`i is the most geographically isolated archipelago in the world, and originally had a tremendous diversity of microclimates, life forms, and natural renewable energy sources. Despite its natural wealth, Hawai`i now imports 50-75% of its own foodstuffs, and over 75% of its energy (Department of Geography, U. Hawai`i, 1983: 159). Ecological degradation over the last century, caused by development and ignorance, has caused many species of life to become extinct, and still threatens many more. The transformation of the Islands from a series of rich, dynamic and interconnected ecosystems and cultural systems to its present state is one of many factors that has intensified a movement toward reclaiming Hawaiian sovereignty." |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Think it's time for an OFC poll?
Lanaki and JeffW and Cogswell and Schitz vs Cliff and Muzza and Wikipedia.
(Yeah, I know I spelled Schitz wrong, but I can't find the funny scandinavian O on my keyboard, and the way I spelled it is funnier anyway :D ) |
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Location: NJ | What the f@ck does Cogswell know??
In 50 years his SON is gonna found a Corporation based on the Manufacturing/Sales of COGS in the latter half of a totally DIGITAL 21st Century! . . .
EVERYBODY knows that SPROCKETS are the Wave of the Future!! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Jane! Get me off this crazy thing! |
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Location: NJ | Don't even get me STARTED about "Schitz". . . .
(Imagine the "crank calls" HE gets at 3AM . . .) |
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| don't know why I'm here... my post just jumped threads, then I tried to delete and couldn't... anyway guess the server burped.
gotta love this place.
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Is that Jack Schitz???? He owes me money! |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I think this thread has to be one of the most diverse OFC thread hijacks in the history of the OFC.
Someone starts with the Iraq war and dead pets. :(
For some weird, unexplainable reason, someone responds with a reference to Ovation guitars. Unnecessary and out of order! :rolleyes:
Here's a potted summary of where the thread went from there;
bad spelling
snow
pet food
llamas
Seattle
guns
bears with WOMD
bad smells
Yogi bear
work (and that's the first page done)
anna nicole's baby
voting
the colour of the sky
the perfect storm
Christmas
Gilligan's alter ego
the olympics and a photo of an Ovation
vipers with wood bits
snakes (that's page 2)
Praying
the OFC calendar
Omaha
Canadians and prostrate exams
Llamas again and back to the original post. (Fillhixx - bad boy!)
Afghanistan
the Hawaiian Interstate
The 'internationalness' of the OFC
back on thread (boring) :o
WWIII
the difference between Poland and the USA
freedom of speech
lawyers
facts (who needs em?) which eloquently concludes page 3. Only 6 to go (so far)
Wabbit's DVD
Polish Chicago Bulls fans
Polish prisons
brown packages and those magazines
bomb squads
Back to the DVD again
a recently deceased fish and reference to an obscure plastic backed USA made guitar (Don't know how THAT fits in this forum) :confused:
mainland tourists
saluting over the toilet
the buddhist snowpea growers association
Pizza (great subject to finish page 4 with, eh?)
Beer (Yay!) :D
a round tuit
early retirement
jumbo shrimps and the Hawaiian Interstate
a feeble reference to the original thread :o
a picture of a dog and a piece of guitar
gibson guitars and eBay
at the end of page 5, our old mate, Jason, offers to help out yet another OFCer with his extensive spare parts stock. (Ain't this a great place?) :D
Now we're on page 6 and the posts are referring more and more to earlier posts, and not too many new topics. And I'm tiring...
only 4 pages to go. What happened to the original topic? Who cares?
Schallers, Grovers and headstocks - both attached and dismembered
Print shops - 'Then and Now'!
Bodoni and Galliard, whatever THEY are??
back to snakes in Hawaii - no mention of the Interstate.
the power of stupid people
hawaiian blind snakes
Canadians, Brits, Aussies, Poles, Manx's, Franks, etc.
The world's remotest land mass (aha, we're back to 'conflict') ;)
Guam brown tree snakes
skunks, squirrels, armadillos, wild pig, deer, feral goats, feral donkeys, wild chickens and mongeese (sp?)
digestive tracts
Woody hitting 8K and Cliff approaching 10K
the taste of chicken compared to mongoose
the remotest landmass debate is hotting up - Pitcairn, St Helena, Hawaii, Easter Island are all in the running.
a Hawaiian Elmer Fudd impersonation and we hit the (current) last page.
farting and blowing up neighborhoods
the efficiency of using ONE finger in the US, but we need to use 2 in Britain and Australia. (twice as offensive?)
The debate about remote landmass has nearly run its course as NOBODY is brave enough to take on Cliff. (JeffW backs down, but Lanaki's probably sleeping.)
Scandinavian excrement and digital sprockets.
And we come to the current end of the thread with another complaint about not being able to delete our own threads and unpaid debts.
Have I missed anything... and are there any subjects that we HAVEN'T covered?
Don'tcha love it here?
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | For a New Yorker, who has family living in Perth, Perth is the most remote inhabited spot. Sorry Hawaii, you may be remote for wild life, but for humans with airplanes, Perth wins. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | There is some wiggle room in the specicific language, but this from the Dept of the Intereior
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | by Jeff W's link
Isolated in the mid Pacific, the Hawaiian Islands are the most remote major island group on earth. I think the key is in the word 'major'.
Geez I'm glad we sorted that out.
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I think the minimum humour requirement stopped him at the entrance.
Don't tell him about balogna-in-the-shoes!
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Location: big island | muzza
~mahalo for the reader's digest version of this thread. i had a challenge keeping my breakfast down while reading it from laughing so hard.
not to belabor this issue or whip a dead horse but:
hawaii's "islands" are simply the tops of the undersea volcanic mountain range that form them.
yes the islands are close to each other, but as an "entity", the whole place is the furthest away from any other land mass. |
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By all means, do continue! |
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Location: big island | i see we are back on topic now, animals. thanks phil! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Even better. Pet Food! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I guess the term "remote" is probably the issue. That means many different things. To me, if it has a McDonalds, it's not remote in any sense of any definition. Now if it's intended to really mean isolated by water, than that is different. If it really means isolated from travel, than that is different. If you can go to an airport, buy a ticket and be there in 24 hours (lets not get picky about timezones), it is neither isolated nor remote. |
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Location: big island | i meant to say that, phil.
Miles, Miles, Miles...we're talking miles, Miles! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Well if you are just talking distance from another significant land mass, than just looking at a Map shows Hawaii is in the middle of the pacific, all alone. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Lanaki:
yes the islands are close to each other, but as an "entity", the whole place is the furthest away from any other land mass. No it ain't. |
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Location: big island | okay phil,
this is an obvious case of cruelty to dead animals. that guy has been beating that horse for over three hours now, and that's only counting since you found/posted him.
i wonder though...is he only beating the horse as long as someone is watching? if i click off of this thread and no one else is perusing it, does the guy stop? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Leave it to someone named Miles to think of remote in a sense other than in "miles" from anywhere. I agree that the word remote has multiple meanings and tend to think of it in terms of being a long way from "civilization", but my name isn't Miles. If his name was McDonald, I could understand where Miles was coming from. |
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Location: big island | Miles is on remote control! |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by muzza:
Originally posted by Lanaki:
yes the islands are close to each other, but as an "entity", the whole place is the furthest away from any other land mass. No it ain't. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | And Lanaki, for being in such a remote location, you seem to be right with us. My wife seems to think Hawaii is right around the corner, but that's in terms of time. If I give up and agree to go to Hawaii this fall, I'll look you up. I know that's pretty threatening, but I'm relatively harmless. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I know that's pretty threatening, but I'm relatively harmless. it's your wife i should worry about then? |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | In an all out attemp to get thrown off this board allow me to add:...Peleg; for in his days the earth was divided... |
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Location: big island | i've read of peleg in the Good Book. that's where we get the word "archipelego" from. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Lanaki:
...is he only beating the horse as long as someone is watching? I have similar concerns about the frig light. I'll work on your question next. 
Mark in Boise said:
I'm relatively harmless. He's never harmed a relative yet... |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by an4340:
I thought Peleg was in Moby Dick. I read the wrong book. he's in moby dick too. he's one of the owners of the ship, Pequod |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | more amazing trivia!!! this is the place to hangout! |
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Location: PDX | Phil ... your fly is open. Just thought you'd like to know.
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Location: Whitecourt, Ab | Honest... We went to Mammoth Caves
I thought Peleg was in Moby Dick.
Mammoth caves, and Moby's dick...This thread could get real ugly! |
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