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Location: ranson,wva | i got a sad sad surprise when i came home from the store about 1 1/2 ago. all 5 of the guitars in my living room fell off the wall...
1132 bowl cracked,brand new reso neck broke at the body joint,head stock broken off,70's 1624 broke the ear off the head and cracked top,tele broken neck,academy got a scartch. the folklore walked away unscaved...ive got the worst damn luck in the world...luckly my adamas was on a stand in the bedroom.....makes me wanna puke...
the damn kids nextdoor were playing and throwing balls and shit at the walls,the wall ancors failed
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Location: Upper Left USA | Ouch.
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Jason - that s*cks! Sorry to hear it man... let me know if there's anything I can do to help. |
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Location: Central Oregon | That really sucks. I believe I'd have already been over there finding out how the kid's folks are fixed for insurance. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Jason I am sorry to hear about your loss. That is why my guitars are always in their cases. They mean to much to me to leave them out. |
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Location: Up North | Jason,
I feel sick, I can't imagine how you feel.
I would certainly investigate what your options are with insurance, either yours or your neighbors. |
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Location: ranson,wva | ill peice them back together..lol
nothing to do now but laugh about it....
ive got a strat neck off of my tele deluxe that the body split in 2,the matrix aint no big deal,i can glue the ear back on the 1624 and seal the top...so im not in that big of a bind other than the $550.00 im out on the resonator..im sure i can find a crappy johnson on ebay and take the neck off...now ive got a excuse to spend all my time in the shop.....jason |
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Location: ranson,wva | ive got to call the insurance man tomorow....we shall see what happens.....it sounds worse than it realy is but its bad none the less...jason |
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Location: Up North | If we don't have insurance for stuff like this, why bother with it?
The only problem is, what happens to your premiums after?
I hope everything works out in the end. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Just remember to show them this picture of the guitars you need to replace!!!
My humble collection |
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Location: ranson,wva | michael,im sure i can crop jerome out and put me in there...or hell ill even settle for jeromes living room wall...lol im just gonna fix what i can and sell what i cant...move on to the next project.......jason |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'd bet the neighbor's homeowners' insurance would cover it. It usually covers stuff like your kids hitting a ball through a window. I don't see much difference. |
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Location: Up North | It all depends on your relationship with your neighbour, if their alright people it shouldn't be a problem, if their dicks, it could be. |
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Location: ranson,wva | we own...they rent....thats gonna be the deciding factor.....
the hardst one to repair is gonna be the steel body resonator...ive never seen a neck attached the way that one was. im probly gonna have to use a bold on neck and screw the neck stick to the neckblock and tail block.....ive worked on woodbody reso's before but never a steel body..so its gonna be a interesting project...jason |
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Location: Up North | Man, you're handling it amazingly well. I'll have to remember this the next time the shit hits the fan for me. |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | Hope you can get it worked out Jason...it sounds terrible. Can you at least find the kids' balls and go and throw them in the river or something |
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Location: ranson,wva | basicaly the ones that took the brunt of it were not that important...ive had the matrix for as long as i can rember and its shot...ill probly scrap it...the artist is a easy fix.....i was extreamly pissed when i came in and seen the mess but then i gathered my self and assessed the sititaion and its not as bad as it looks..i hated the neck on the reso..who the hell would put a thin neck on one of these?? its smaller than 1 11/16...im going to the lumber yard tomorow and get a 16ft red oak plank to screw the hangers to then screw the plank to every stud it falls on.....im verry luck that my adamas was up stairs and my folklore wasnt hurt....jason
ps..oz,id like to thro the ball out in rt.40 during the 5pm rush hour..lol |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Jason amazingly generous of you to write it off and move on. But make sure those neighbor kids learn from this. I'm sure if you told their parents that they damaged a thousand dollars worth of guitars, but you'll accept 500 dollars worth of sweat equity in return they'd be all over that. Make those guys mow your lawn for the rest of the year or something! |
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Location: ranson,wva | im gonna have a sit down tomorow with the parents. ive got the only yard in the neiborhood that has trees in it and i havnt raked none yet,pluss i think its work a summers worth of mowing my lawn and trimming...they are plenty old enough to handle that task...jason |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Damn Jason... Sorry to hear about that Bro'... But you are taking it better than I expect that I would. But I'm glad you aren't too stressed.
Definitely go for the big board, attached to some good structural beams.
So... Did this incident cause you to change your name? |
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Location: ranson,wva | thanks arthur,the name change happned before the fact.......jason |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | First, I am so sorry for your loss.
Now, down to business.
The financial liability belongs to the owner of the property.
Your insurance will cover it.
However, you need to know that a landlord is entirely responsible for the actions of his/her renters.
That is why they give special insurance coverage to landlords.
It is also why it's easy for you to recover your loss. Your insurance company will certainly go after the landlord's insurance company.
You will have a larger guitar collection than you did before if you stay calmly angry and give your insurance company PICTURES.
Good luck, man.
I would love to throttle the blokes who robbed my studio.
You are a nicer person than I.
Wishing you well,
Another Boney Gumbo
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Ouch.
.... in the neighborhood interviews afterward, they all said, "I'm shocked. He was quiet but friendly, mostly kept to himself." |
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| Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Ouch.
.... in the neighborhood interviews afterward, they all said, "I'm shocked. He was quiet but friendly, mostly kept to himself." we had no idea he had all those automatic weapons...all we heard was the sound of gunfire and someone screaming
"I AM Johnny Cash!!!"
sorry to hear about the damage... but you do seem to be taking it like a postman.
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Location: ms | You need to let it out man. This is your safe place,let it flow. |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | Oh, c'mon you guys. He might really be that nice in real life.
Seems impossible, but Jason, if you are, and I was assuming you are (that nice, that is), please reach out before you go postal. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | The Postal Workers I've been around lately are really nice people as well. I vote we change that phrase to something like "going Media" or "gone Contractor". Them I got issues with!
Jason, you done well. The first few posts are allowed to vent, much like the "hit-his-thumb-with-the-hammer-first-30 seconds-don't-listen" rule.
Let your insurance know, talk with your neighbors, keep the guns locked up.
When you go over to talk to them bring Brownies... |
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| "When you go over to talk to them bring Brownies..."
yeah... the special ones.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | This just in- True Story (Really, I'm not sh!ttin'):
Today 4 children killed and a Mom missing from a home in Fredrick, MD...
I kid you not...
Jaaaaa-son.... JAAAAA-son... come-on bud, Chill out. |
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| wow... now I need a brownie.
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Location: Upper Left USA | The Frederick Post
There are worse things in life than a little property damage. |
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Location: NJ | Here's what you need t'do, Jason:
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Location: Upper Left USA | Buy a G7?
Borrow an Adamas I Baritone?
Invest in cheap Paneling?
Oh, oh, I get it now. Locate the studs and anchor a connecting member, such as a Mahogany 3/4" x 8" and then attach the String Swings or other brand of instrument hanger. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | What I did was to locate the studs and offset the height to allow placement a little tighter.
Wow, four of those are hanging in someone else's wall now! |
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Location: NJ | "Buy a G7?"
- a gift from Master Templeman.
"Borrow an Adamas I Baritone?"
- a Christmas Present from a Good Friend.
"Invest in cheap Paneling?"
- Better HERE than to have you defacing Classic Guitars with it.
"Oh, oh, I get it now. Locate the studs and anchor a connecting member, such as a Mahogany 3/4" x 8" and then attach the String Swings or other brand of instrument hanger."
- Red Oak and "OffTheWall". |
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Location: Up North | What type of guitar hanger do you guys recommend?
I'm thinking of getting my guitars up out of reach of the kids. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Decaf and a Back Rub for you Cliff! Didya wake up on the wrong side of the US?
OK, I'm just jealous about the Baritone.
Also, let me toss in a story that relates in some ways.
I am in a 1965 split level with everything from fully soldered copper piping (comes in and goes-outs) to the aluminum wiring. Floor joists made of 2"x14" clear and under insulated walls. about 2-3 remodels ago someone re-did the Kitchen floor, trapping the Dishwasher in place since it didn't have the adjustable legs. Only way to pull it out would be destructively.
Got about 15 years out of the water hose that supplies the DW. My PUD thinks its OK to supply the water at a n average of 120 psi as well. My Wife and I are out to dinner when my Daughter calls in a panic when she came home to water running down the stairs, through the walls and light fixtures, etc.
About four months of Contractors wandering through my house and a couple of thousand dollars out of pocket later, we had all new floors and a couple of complete new rooms. Got to remove the panelling in the Master Suite because it is actually more expensive to replace than drywall!
In the process I got to remove/add/upgrade the insulation and electrical in a couple of rooms. Had a $1000 deductible and a couple of thousand in timely upgrades. Ended up with a much nicer home guilt free. BTW - I was kidding about using Jerome's collection for insurance purposes. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I have massive amounts of aluminum wiring as well... what a pain. Everytime I do a project, I replace as much as I can. |
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Location: NJ | I like the Hercules stands, but I'm not crazy about their hangers. I had put one up in our old apartment, and there was just too much "slop" in it for me to be comfortable with it . . .
I've got 5 OffTheWall's on a 10' 1x8 ReadOak board that's screwed into EVERY wall stud with a 5" brass wood screw. The hangers are attached by brass screws that screw into nuts that are countersunk into the backside of the board.
We weren't positive if we'd be "staying" at this place, so this allowed maximum stability with minimum holes in the (albeit cheaply paneled) walls (Jeanette was happy about that). I also like the OffTheWall's because the hangers "keyhole" into the cast iron base and can be changed-out to accomodate 6 or 12-string, or (Bill's insanely) WideNecks.
I hung my full weight on this before I put a guitar on it.
The brass "buttons" protruding out are female StrapLocks for hanging guitar straps.
The other side of the wall is the back wall of my garage, which has a home-built, heavy wooden workbench anchored to it's full length.
I could probably total my car against this, and the most guitar damage that would result would be a dissonant chord. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Those kids must have been whaling against the wall. I'd be angry. At the least, I'd talk with thier landlord. As for compensation, it depends on your relationship with the neighbors. Up to you, I take no postion as to what to do ... but you would be justified to ask for them to pay for the damages. People shouldn't pound your house with balls. |
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Location: NJ | ". . Those kids must have been whaling against the wall . ."
The harpoons were a dead giveaway . . .. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Jason,I`m sorry to hear about what happened,U are handling it well,I truly respect U for that!
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Location: Orange County, California | Well, when the threw the ball and heard the cool noise it made a split second later, they probably did it again to see if they could get the noise again. Which they did succeed at, a couple more times. Then inexplicably, it stopped. :p :D :p :D |
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Location: Vermont USA | Eat one the rest of the neighborhood kids will behave.
Pauly :( |
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Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville | Originally posted by cliff:
". . Those kids must have been whaling against the wall . ."
The harpoons were a dead giveaway . . .. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | OK, how about whacking against the wall. In any event, Jason is entitled to take their balls away. |
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| Originally posted by an4340:
OK, how about whacking against the wall. In any event, Jason is entitled to take their balls away. down the lungs, back out thru the nose and into the coffee mug...SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
time for a new cup.
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Location: ranson,wva | guys, that suicide was a few streets over from where i live, the kids hadnt been to school in a wek and then father wasnt at work for 2 weeks,and the mother is still at large. the police figures they have been expired for about a week now....sad sad shit there.....jason |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Seems like I got out of Frederick while the get'n was good. |
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Location: ranson,wva | looks like you did miles.....i dont think we gonna hang around much longer.....jason |
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Location: Colorado | Sorry to hear of your misfortune Jason. Also glad the Adamas wasn't damaged.
Hopefully, being the weasels they sometimes are, the insurance company doesn't tell you that your guitars should have been on stands or in their cases.
Keep us posted on this one. |
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Location: ranson,wva | i live is a 1000sqft townhouse 3 bed room, not much room when you have 15 guitars of varrious makes and models. most are in the cases in the varrious closets around the house...but i followed cliffords instructions and now the only way my hangers will fall off the wall is if some one comes in with a crowbar and prys that 16ft redoak plank off the wall thats got 2 3in screws in every stud...with the hurcules hangers.....just a minor stone in the road....jason |
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Location: ranson,wva | good news is i finished the 1624 tonight and made a neck block to use a ovation bolt on neck for the resonator....i used a ledgend neck to get the holes right in the neck block.....the legend needed a neck reset so i killed 2 birds with one stone.......things are looking better. i talked to the kids father this evening and he agreeded to have the kids do my lawn work for the summer ans shovel my parkingspots and side walk next winter.....not bad..lol jason |
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Location: big island | unless they move out next week...
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not a good nite to be a guitar in my house