OT??? What is The Loudest ???
guitarwannabee
Posted 2007-04-01 8:17 PM (#107406)
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Can anyone tell me who was the loudest band ever to play a live concert?I have heard different rumors about this.

Also does anyone know what the loudest most powerfull amplifier in the world would be ???

This should be interseting thread

In my wifes humble opinion it is me ,, GWB.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-04-01 8:22 PM (#107407 - in reply to #107406)
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The two loudest that I ever saw were the Ramones at Manhattan College in the Bronx, NY and the Kinks at St. Johns University in NY.

I would also add Flogging Molly at the HOB in Atlantic City but that was more a case of my proximity to the loudspeakers.
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alpep
Posted 2007-04-01 8:29 PM (#107408 - in reply to #107406)
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the ramones
emerald city
cherry hill nj around 85

2nd
black sabbath
phila spectrum 74

well I have seen 1000 watt amps but nothing really that has been in production as an instrument amp I guess the svt at 300 watts is the largest production amp
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stephent28
Posted 2007-04-01 8:37 PM (#107409 - in reply to #107406)
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At one time, The Who was measured as the loudest band of all time but it would not surprise me if whatever decible that was, it has been surpassed.
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72tour
Posted 2007-04-01 8:38 PM (#107410 - in reply to #107406)
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The loudest band ever happens to be my favorite. Manowar! Gods among men with the most loyal fans ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuIc2sRFxs

Quote from Wikipedia: "The heavy metal band Manowar is one claimaint of the title of "loudest band in the world", citing a measurement of 129.5 decibels in 1994 in Hanover. The Guiness Book of World Records once listed it as the record holder for the loudest musical performance for an earlier performance in 1984. However, Guinness does not recognize Manowar's later claim, because it no longer includes a category of loudest band, reportedly because it does not want to encourage ear damage."
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-04-01 8:43 PM (#107411 - in reply to #107406)
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what???
speak up will ya..
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-04-01 8:44 PM (#107412 - in reply to #107406)
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Oh People, Please.....the Loudest Band Ever is of course DEEP PURPLE !!!!!

as regarding the most powerful amp.,the most powerful speakers known to me are probably 24" ( TwentyFour inch. )woofers made by Precision Devices ( England )

http://www.precisiondevices.co.uk/home.asp

Such High Power systems would/should be driven electronically ( amp. for each speaker ) so that would be a good estimate , otherwise..the biggest guitar valve amp. that I know of was the SIMMS WATTS 200 ,200 wtts. European (400 wtts. American) with 8 x KT 66 in the output stage if I remember well ;)

Vic :cool:
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numbfingers
Posted 2007-04-01 9:21 PM (#107413 - in reply to #107406)
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How about the loudest you ever heard? I have two from the early 70's.

Ted Nugent. A mild-mannered, straitlaced guy from my dorm had tickets. It turned out that he just had to stand in the front, right next to the PA speakers, and rock out. After a while I couldn't take it and had to to move to the back. Fun show though!

Jeff Beck. I went with my jazz-fusion buddies to see a double bill of the second Mahavishnu Orchestra and Beck. I think it was at the Shrine in LA. Mahavishnu was just short of being too loud; Beck was unbearable. After two or three numbers we left.

-Steve W.
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Grif
Posted 2007-04-01 9:28 PM (#107414 - in reply to #107406)
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AC/DC Back in Black tour 1980, front row, I couldn't hear for a week after, but I stayed for the whole show.

So loud it was shaking dust off the rafters in the arena!
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Beal
Posted 2007-04-01 9:30 PM (#107415 - in reply to #107406)
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Loudest I've heard was Zak Wilde.
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BruDeV
Posted 2007-04-01 9:44 PM (#107416 - in reply to #107406)
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Loudest amp made was 250,000 watts. It was used to check missles for vibration problems.
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-04-01 9:54 PM (#107417 - in reply to #107406)
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Loudest sound ever - the whine from my mother in law after my father in law slipped up on their last anniversary.

Dogs, all over the Northeast, cried for days.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-01 9:56 PM (#107418 - in reply to #107406)
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loudest i've heard was 38 Special at the civic center in Asheville, NC. way too loud. had to leave in the middle of the 3rd song. their sound man was deaf. my ears rang for three days. the opening act was much better although i cannot remember who!
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an4340
Posted 2007-04-01 10:20 PM (#107419 - in reply to #107406)
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Loudest band:
The Ramones

I don't know, about the loudest speaker, but you can use this calculator to reckon how much power you need. Most people have too much. You'll want about 90db at the back of the room. (hearing loss starts at 90db) For example, at 4 meters (a typical backroom of a coffee house) a 10W amp will work.

Use this calculator to figure out how many watt\'s you\'ll need.

That said, the biggest array of speakers I've seen was the Grateful Dead's, but the sound was clear.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-01 11:04 PM (#107420 - in reply to #107406)
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. . . kinda' ironic that that godawful shite could be heard Loud&Clear . . .
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Goober
Posted 2007-04-01 11:08 PM (#107421 - in reply to #107406)
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Originally posted by cliff:
. . . kinda' ironic that that godawful shite could be heard Loud&Clear . . .
LMAO!!! All of the Deadbeats will make you pay for that one, Cliff.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-01 11:10 PM (#107422 - in reply to #107406)
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Great . . . I'll be HackySack'd t'Death . . .
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-04-01 11:16 PM (#107423 - in reply to #107406)
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That'd be Disaster Area from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the loudest band in the universe, and in fact the loudest sound of any kind, anywhere. So loud is this band that the audience usually listens from the safe distance of thirty seven miles away in a well-built concrete bunker, while the band plays "virtual instruments" from an orbiting space craft. Disaster Area's lavish performances often cause major seismic catastrophes and permanent planetary damage. They go so far as to crash a space ship into the nearest sun to create a solar flare for the grand finale. At the time when the story's main characters meet him, in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, the lead singer Hotblack Desatio has been sentenced to spending a year dead "for tax reasons", though he is still psychically alive....
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-04-01 11:44 PM (#107424 - in reply to #107406)
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" I don't know, about the loudest speaker, but you can use this calculator to reckon how much power you need "

That`s a nice little fun thing ,exept it forgets to mention at what frequency it will be used for ?? Soo...if we have to get technical ..
Nah,that would fall outside the scope of this board,but the statement of 90 db at the back ( at 1 Khz.?? ) being enough is odd,to say the least ! (that would be very little ) even GWB`s congregation who are toting stethoscopes to his sunday gig would tell him to buy a decent amp... but to keep things simple,when you look at the back of headphone wrappings,you will see that most phones will go up to 105 db,crank your discman to full power until distortion is reached,than that would tell you how loud that is( ouch !),turning down - 3 db = half that (50 %)now how can you tell ?,..simply ,when you perceive it as half as loud,then that is - 3 db and - 6db is thus a quart( 25 %) half as loud from when you turned it down last ,so now we are down at 105 - 6 = 99 db !that would be an amiable listening level, turn that - 3 db down ,and you are ready to join GWB`s stethoscope congregation .. yet 99 db - 3 db= 96 db,is still four (4) times louder than the calc`s 90 db ,at that level ,you would need a very good stethoscope indeed ! That I called DEEP PURPLE for the loudest band ever,comes from their hey-day`s,when they were making it a point to be " Louder than Everything Else " ,since then ,they have been copied by many,but being the first band to use that concept,I rate them nr.1 !

Vic
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-04-01 11:57 PM (#107425 - in reply to #107406)
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DISCLAIMER

The author has never heard of GuitarWannaBe,never heard of Congregation`s,and does not have a clue what Stethoscopes are about.

( Identity withheld ) :cool:
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-04-02 12:01 AM (#107426 - in reply to #107406)
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Originally posted by 72tour:
The loudest band ever happens to be my favorite. Manowar! Gods among men with the most loyal fans ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuIc2sRFxs
...because it does not want to encourage ear damage."
So what is that guy playing at the beginning? The world's largest Mandolin? Eight string bass? Or an eight string baritone guitar? What?
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-02 12:10 AM (#107427 - in reply to #107406)
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loudst band ive heard in concert was cradle of filth in Philadelphia back in 2000 when i was still in high school...dont rember much other than it was ear splitting loud...jason
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72tour
Posted 2007-04-02 12:41 AM (#107428 - in reply to #107406)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
So what is that guy playing at the beginning? The world's largest Mandolin? Eight string bass? Or an eight string baritone guitar? What?

8 string bass only strung with 4 string is what it looks like to me. But judging from the sound it's giving I think it's full 8 string with octaves or something...
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Omaha
Posted 2007-04-02 12:44 AM (#107429 - in reply to #107406)
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Duh...Everyone knows the answer is "Spinal Tap".
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Grif
Posted 2007-04-02 2:38 AM (#107430 - in reply to #107406)
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That's true, they did have their amps built with 11 on the volume dial. :eek:
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alpep
Posted 2007-04-02 8:05 AM (#107431 - in reply to #107406)
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ok
I take that back I did see spinal tap about 7 years ago at the namm show. and even with ear plugs they were still God awful loud. they were absolutelly the loudest band I ever heard.
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jb
Posted 2007-04-02 8:16 AM (#107432 - in reply to #107406)
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Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
That'd be Disaster Area from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, ....
That's quite scary. It's the chapter I re-read last night in bed!

Re-read for at least the 79th time, that is.

JB
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Phil Wong
Posted 2007-04-02 8:32 AM (#107433 - in reply to #107406)
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I met the son of a neighbor of mine. It turns out that we both went to Forest Hills High School. He is about eight years older than me. During our conversation he told me that he used to hang out with the Ramones while he was in high school. Unfortunately the one song that I know from the Ramones is "I Want To Be Sedated". I guess that figures because of what I do for a living. :p
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-02 8:51 AM (#107434 - in reply to #107406)
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The DeepPurple-thing came about when they were listed in the GuinnessBook as such . . . I'm sure they've probably been surpassed in subsequent years . . . yet, I fail to see any conceiveable reason "why" . . . .


The loudest (perceived) show that I personally found was a Yes concert in Manhattan in the early 80's ("90215" Tour). The sound system was just FAR too loud for the indoor venue they were playing. It was the only time EVER that I wadded some pieces of tissue paper into my ears . . . .
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ChatMan
Posted 2007-04-02 10:24 AM (#107435 - in reply to #107406)
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In 1987 I worked at a U2 concert in RFK stadium. To this day, my inner ear tenses when I hear certain songs from the Joshua Tree album. I don't think the guitars were loud so much as the impulse from the amplified drums. This marked the beginning of my more-is-not-better period that I continue to believe to this day. Only bright spot to that concert was the 20 minute respite when Bono slipped on stage and broke his arm. He returned to finish the concert with his arm in a sling qualifying him for the iron man perfromance award.
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Omaha
Posted 2007-04-02 10:38 AM (#107436 - in reply to #107406)
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Originally posted by Grif:
That's true, they did have their amps built with 11 on the volume dial.
11?

11 is for wimps.

My amp kicks Spinal Tap butt:
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Beggin
Posted 2007-04-02 12:19 PM (#107437 - in reply to #107406)
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In 1978 George Clinton opened for George Benson @ the 2500 seat Ovens Auditorium in Charlotte, NC. Clinton played for an hour at volume levels that I had never experianced before. (I had seen Deep Purple and any band that came to Charlotte since about 1971) My ears hurt so bad that I think I lost some permanent hearing that night. The real sad part was when George Benson walked out solo in his opening number, no one could hear him, our ears were ringing so badly. It's a shame too, I went to see Benson.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2007-04-02 5:13 PM (#107438 - in reply to #107406)
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Grand Funk Railroad at Madison Square Garden back in 1971 was the loudest show I'd ever heard until . . .

I saw the Scorpions at the Jones Beach theater 3 years ago. The band opened up for Deep Purple and they were waaaaay louder. Insanely loud, kinda like being assulted by sound. I couldn't even take one song. We stayed ouside of the theater by the concession stands until the show was over, then went in and enjoyed the DP show.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2007-04-02 5:48 PM (#107439 - in reply to #107406)
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I remember reading about Grand Funk setting a record for the loudest band at that concert back then but I am sure it has been blown away by Metal bands of the eighties.GWB
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2007-04-02 5:53 PM (#107440 - in reply to #107406)
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I cant beleive that none of you have mentioned the live TV shows for the loudest?????

Sonny & Cher Show ----Ive got you babe???

Donnie & Marie Hour--She's a little bit country
He's a little bit of Rock & Roll

Those were some ear splitting songs.GWB
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Waskel
Posted 2007-04-02 5:54 PM (#107441 - in reply to #107406)
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True, but it had nothing to do with the volume.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-04-02 6:33 PM (#107442 - in reply to #107406)
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Loudest?
XTC their last North American
(and now from the sound of things...ever)
tour.(1981?)

But it was a very small venue with equipment for
something larger.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-04-02 7:44 PM (#107443 - in reply to #107406)
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According to "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy".......

"Disaster Area" a Plutonium rock band generally held to be not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but in fact the loudest noise of any kind at all. Disaster Area fans judge that the best sound balance is usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some thirty-seven miles from the stage, while the musicians themselves play their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stays in orbit around the planet - or more frequently around a completely different planet.

Disaster Area's leader was called Hotblack Desiato who was spending some time as dead, for tax purposes. Desitato is named after a Real Estate agency based in Islington, London. HGTTG writer Douglas Adams said he was struggling to find a name for the character and, spotting a Hotblack Desiato sign, liked the name so much he telephoned to ask permission to use the Company's name for the character. Apparently, the company's staff later received phone calls telling them they had a nerve naming their firm after Adams’ character.
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Tele-Caster
Posted 2007-04-03 5:16 PM (#107444 - in reply to #107406)
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Well, let's see here.......

I saw Van Halen, Styx, Scorpions, REO Speedwagon, Journey, and so on back in the early 80's and NONE of them could match the shear sonic bombast of.............

HEART!

Yep, you read that right. Veterans Stadium in Long Beach, CA, I think, is where I saw them at. Don't remember if it was '81 or when, but they were EAR SPLITTING LOUD! Far and away, from that day to this, the loudest band I've ever heard.

Flash forward twenty-plus years, and when I saw them at the Pacific Ampitheater in Costa Mesa back in 2005, they were too quiet. The crowd kept shouting for them to turn up the volume. It was hard to hear, but in spite of that, the band put on a great show.

T/C
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-03 5:36 PM (#107445 - in reply to #107406)
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Half the time, I think that it's not so much the band being "loud", but it's just PERCEIVED that way due to a soundman who's a complete f@ckwit . . .
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alpep
Posted 2007-04-03 5:43 PM (#107446 - in reply to #107406)
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Originally posted by fillhixx:
Loudest?
XTC their last North American
(and now from the sound of things...ever)
tour.(1981?)

But it was a very small venue with equipment for
something larger.
you sure their last tour wan't black sea? I think that is the one I saw in about 84 or so
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-04-03 6:32 PM (#107447 - in reply to #107406)
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Couldn,t swear to times and dates of anything right about that era. Shortly before I 'grew up.'

All I remember is good buzz, and good thing, 'cos it would have been painfully loud, even with the earplugs.

Is it possible that 'last tour' didn't make it to the west coast?

Looks like there will be no more XTC product. The last two; Apple Venus vol. 1 & 2, were as good as anything they've ever done...but I'm biased.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-04-03 7:48 PM (#107448 - in reply to #107406)
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Oops! Guess my memory's better than I thought!
Link XTC pulled a Beatles (or is it a Steely Dan) and quit touring after Andy Partridge collapsed from exhaustion while on the road in March 1982. They haven't gone back out since, despite releasing some of the best records of the last 25 years.
In fact, the final moment seems to be available on Youtube!
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alpep
Posted 2007-04-03 7:53 PM (#107449 - in reply to #107406)
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damn all those years just blend together......
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schroeder
Posted 2007-04-03 9:17 PM (#107450 - in reply to #107406)
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When I was 15 or 16 I saw Cream play their 4th or 5th gig ever (no record released as yet) in the gym of Warwick University. No stage - straight on the floor. I watched Ginger tune his drums with a hammer, and then only a mic stand was between me and Eric. Maybe 2 feet - when he sang real loud I got the spittle. About 3 feet behind him were 2 Marshall 100 stacks, both set to 9. In total wattage I've heard a hundred/thousand louder bands, but at a distance of 5 feet it was pain beyond belief. But I stayed.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-04-05 8:48 PM (#107451 - in reply to #107406)
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I saw Pantera on the winter of 1993 at the Palace Theater in Albany, NY. I had my share of hard/metal rock acts before that, but this was the loudest of all. I never knew anything about this band, but they were loud and heavy, that these guys made Megadeth sound like wimps. A good ole friend of mine was a writer for the local magazine, and asked me to tag along, as he was writing a review for the show. My bro. in law went as well.

It was also the first time I saw a mosh pit, at close range. as I stood [in disbelief] watching them audience go at each other, pushing, kicking, punching, jumping, diving, from the seventh row. About 25 minutes into their set, some drunk jumped my bro. in law and me from behind. Out of our anger, we lifted up this dude and threw him into the mosh pit. The funny thing was that the dude came back thanking us for he was having such a great time. The audience trashed the stage at the end of their encore performance, while simultaneously shouted the words, "Cowboys from hell!"

To my surprise, the show ended peacefully, without any fights or riots. I guess getting badly bruised in a rock concert can be therapeutic in some form or another...
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-04-05 9:03 PM (#107452 - in reply to #107406)
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I think it was in the summer of 1997, when I saw the Animals and the Yardbirds, perform at the New York State Fair in Syracuse. It was a free show at the Cole Muffler Court [I don't know what it's called today though], and it was a great night for oldies rock and roll.

During this show, the drummer was the only original member of the Animals, but they still played a lot of their great songs. Even their singer was an awesome Eric Burdon sound-alike.

When the Yardbirds hit the stage, their music was really loud that I end up watching their set from a distance. Almost immediately, close to half of the audience disappeared too. I doubt if there were any original members in it, but they too played a lot of their classic songs. They even ended their set with "Dazed and Confused" which felt like Led Zeppelin made the reversal to become the Yardbirds again.
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Posted 2007-04-05 9:04 PM (#107453 - in reply to #107406)
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Gil, you continue to amaze me. :D
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Posted 2007-04-06 10:05 AM (#107454 - in reply to #107406)
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It's amazing where curiosity and being adventurous can lead us to... :)
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-06 10:34 AM (#107455 - in reply to #107406)
Subject: Re: OT??? What is The Loudest ???



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Posts: 5881

Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
1968, sitting in the first row at the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, far left. Chicago (then known as the Chicago Transit Authority) opened for Gary Puckett and the Union Gap. It was the first date with the girl who would later become my wife. There was a group of trumpets about four feet from us. I'm not sure if it was the volume or the piercing sound of those instruments, but it definitely did some damage. Most of the time these days, I take my custom made motorcycle riding earplus to concerts. It is the only way to prevent a headache.
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an4340
Posted 2007-04-06 11:51 AM (#107456 - in reply to #107406)
Subject: Re: OT??? What is The Loudest ???


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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands
i wear ear plugs too. Even to movies.
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dansimpson
Posted 2007-05-04 6:07 PM (#107457 - in reply to #107406)
Subject: Re: OT??? What is The Loudest ???


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Posts: 10

Location: Dartmouth UK
Hawkwind, early 70s, Newcastle City Hall (thats UK for all you non brits) So loud you could "hear" what was playing.
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