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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1487
Location: Michigan | Which musician or band has brought about the biggest change or influenece on the music industry?
Which ones have influenced YOU the most?
Which ones songs do YOU enjoy playing the most?
I think the Beatles brought about the most change in the industry and they are for sure the band that influenced me the most.
I think that I enjoy playing Neil Young songs the most . GWB |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 863
Location: Central Florida | The answer from me to all your questions... The Beatles! |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | STEVE HOWE.
Hey Jeff, Just noticed your guitar list. Is the Chet a lefty ?
Dave |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389
Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I'll only pick one because you can go on and on ...
1 Louis Armstrong
2 The ramones
3 Currently ... Johnny Cash |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 3145
Location: Marlton, NJ | 1 Beatles
2 Springsteen
3 Clapton |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1487
Location: Michigan | Tupperware , If Steve Howe is on the top of your list what do you think about Greg Lake ? Robert Fripp ? GWB. |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 812
Location: Hicksville, NY | Besides The Beatles, most of what have influenced me the most are folk-based musicians ... mainly Jim Croce, James Taylor, and Neil Young.
Of I forgot to mention Rush, even though I can't really play their stuff. |
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 Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I don't know about the "Music Industry" folks...
but personally...
The Animals... For poignant Lyrics and Music, befitting their time.
Side Story... On my Comcast Homepage, they have a "radio" link. Choose your genre. They have one called 60's Rock. I expected the Beach Boys and old Beatles and Stones...
They have the most awesome acid rock, that I seemed to have missed-out on. But there was/is so much good music from that era that never made it on WRKO Top 40, or Kasey Kasum!
Just a random thought... |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "Which musician or band has brought about the biggest change or influences on the music industry?"
- Can't really get my head around this question. "Change" and "Influence" are such different aspects, and I can't think of any musicians that affected the industry as much as the industry affected artists and musicians.. so I guess I just don't understand the question.
"Which ones have influenced YOU the most?"
Blue Oyster Cult
Boston
Rhandy Rhodes
Harry Chapin
- In all of the above, the artist our groups focus was in perfecting all of the aspects of their music. storytelling, imagination, just as much as sonic clarity/musical excellence etc..
"Which ones songs do YOU enjoy playing the most?"
Don't really enjoy playing anyone else's music as much as I enjoy playing my own.
For the record, I have never understood the "Beatles" thing. I believe George Martin and Brian Epstein were genius in realizing the potential of the Quarrymen. I am much more a fan of all of the members post-Beatles work, but the early Beatles stuff did nothing for me, cept when they covered a few other peoples rock tunes here and there like Chuck Berry. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1487
Location: Michigan | Mr.Ovation , Damit you are sounding like my boss now . Can't you guys just take a question for face value without disecting it into Micro-Mangaging every word???
Sorry Miles , Im just venting. It just seems nothing in this world can be done simply anymore. After seeing what your veiws are I would guess you as a late 40 year old?? Am I correct? GWB |
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Joined: January 2007 Posts: 672
Location: New South Wales, Australia | I think The Beatles changed the way things were done in the studio which in turn changed or at least influenced popular music from that time on.
Like you, GWB, I'm a Neil Young fan. Wouldn't have started to play guitar if it were not for him. Hardly a day goes by where I don't play some Neil Young. |
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Joined: April 2007 Posts: 225
Location: Stow, Ohio | Wholy geetar strap! finaly a board that doesn't put ol' James Marshall Hendrix (to me the most overated guitarist ever) on a pedastool.
Why it was Bill Haley and his Comets, and soon after that Buddy Holly and those Crickets.
we're gonna rock around the clock tonight, gonna rock rock rock 'till broad daylight, gonna rock around the clock tonight |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Hey gwb, didn't mean to wind ya up. :)
Yep I'm almost 50. I can't think of a single musician or band that changed the music industry. Sorry, but musicians and bands are commodities bought and sold by the industry, so I don't see the question. I can think of many people who did change the music industry, but no musicians or bands. I don't know their names but they are the people who came up with MTV, Marconi for the radio, the guys that came up with Napster, the guys who came up with FTP, and newsgroups, and the folks in the porn industry without which the whole streaming music medium would not exist. Satellite radio has dramatically changed the industry, and people like Sam Cooke who were pioneers that help create and mold the recording industry. I guess the most significant was the guy that first put music onto a record and I guess that leads to the folks that invented the Cassette, 8-Track and CD's.
If the question was what band or artist had the most influence on music, that's a different question. It might very well be the Beatles as although I'm not much of a fan of them per se... They influenced musicians and technique that as someone mentioned, changed so much that followed. So in that sense, it probably was the Beatles that affected music the most in history either directly or indirectly.
Again, I probably missed the point, but I tried. |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804
Location: ranson,wva | dave grohl,the brains behind nirvana. they were way ahead of their time,cobain was just a nut job(imo)......jason |
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Joined: October 2004 Posts: 256
Location: chicago | Al Di Meola
Steve Howe
Steve Hackett
Anthony Phillips
www.guitarsoffire.com |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39
Location: Montreal, Canada | I would say:
1) Pink Floyd
2) Rush (hey, i'm a canuck, what can i say)
3) Most progressive stuff from the 70s and 80s. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | "Which musician or band has brought about the biggest change or influenece on the music industry?" Buddy Holly, Elvis, Chuck Berry
"Which ones have influenced YOU the most?" The Allman Brothers, CSN&Y, PP&M, AKUS
"Which ones songs do YOU enjoy playing the most?" AKUS |
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Joined: January 2007 Posts: 672
Location: New South Wales, Australia | Originally posted by Elliot Meldoy:
Wholy geetar strap! finaly a board that doesn't put ol' James Marshall Hendrix (to me the most overated guitarist ever) on a pedastool.
Why it was Bill Haley and his Comets, and soon after that Buddy Holly and those Crickets.
we're gonna rock around the clock tonight, gonna rock rock rock 'till broad daylight, gonna rock around the clock tonight I never knew Buddy Holly existed until I saw The Buddy Holly Story starring Gary Busey.(great movie BTW)...I became an instant fan.
As for Hendrix, I find his guitar work visually exciting but sonically he doesn't do it for me. Is that blasphemous.... :eek: :D |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
Tupperware , If Steve Howe is on the top of your list what do you think about Greg Lake ? Robert Fripp ? GWB. I like them, but not as inspirational to me as Steve Howe. I also like Dunford and Hackett.
Dave |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Given I grew up in a world where The Stones were the Music Industry...
The Velvet Underground
Dire Straits (nothing sounded like DS before DS)
REM |
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 Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by ozwatto:
Originally posted by Elliot Meldoy:
Wholy geetar strap! finaly a board that doesn't put ol' James Marshall Hendrix (to me the most overated guitarist ever) on a pedastool.
Why it was Bill Haley and his Comets, and soon after that Buddy Holly and those Crickets.
we're gonna rock around the clock tonight, gonna rock rock rock 'till broad daylight, gonna rock around the clock tonight I never knew Buddy Holly existed until I saw The Buddy Holly Story starring Gary Busey.(great movie BTW)...I became an instant fan.
As for Hendrix, I find his guitar work visually exciting but sonically he doesn't do it for me. Is that blasphemous.... :eek: :D More Blasphemy... The best thing that ever happened to the Jimi Hendrix phenomenon... Was his Death!
He's a good guitarist, but... I know alot of people that can do that. ;)
It's the whole Idol/Martyrdom thing... |
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 Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Not sure about questions 1, but for question 2, the Ventures and other driving guitar groups of the late 1950's and early 1960's, primarily of the pure instrumental surf style, but early rock, blues, rockabily and CW as well. John Denver was also an influence.
For question 3, I like to play anything that contains a strong melody, adagio picking and sustained chords. Style wise, I prefer the blues and ballads. Based on how fast the new stuff comes at us in the Praise Band, I really enjoy playing anything I can rehearse a few times before Sunday morning and don't have to sight read. |
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Joined: July 2006 Posts: 95
Location: St Louis | Les Paul
The Allman Brothers
The Allman Brothers |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 972
Location: PDX | 1) Charlie Parker (although i would say his influence was more on the "scene" than the industry)
2) Miles Davis followed closely by Bach
3) Too many, but most would fit in the category of American Standard composers.
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 863
Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Hey Jeff, Just noticed your guitar list. Is the Chet a lefty ?
Dave Absolutely! :) |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900
| In response to the original question...
I always thought the group 'Chicago' dramatically raised the standard of professional pop music. But, what do I know...I never liked the beatles but I did like Glen Campbell...go figure.. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 863
Location: Central Florida | I just read through this thread, and I can't tell you how relieved I am to know that I'm not the only one that thinks Mr. Hendrix is one of--if not THE -- most overrated guitarists in history.
Without a doubt, he was an inovator, and a master showman, but the world's greatest guitarist? ...Hardly. |
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 Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | The Beatles changed the world.
The Allman Brothers changed me.
I enjoy trying to play anything. |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Like them not, can't be anyone other then George Martin and the Beatles.
Concider the transition from "Meet The Beatles" through "Srg. Pepper" and "Abbey Rd". No one else has taken the art of music so far in such a short time. All the others rode the crest of the wave started by the five members of the Beatles. |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | I aggree with Miles, there very few if any musicians who have effected real change that has resonated throughout the music industry. For that kind of thing I'd go for for the likes Thomas Edison for the phonograph, Berliner for the gramophone, Les Paul for pioneering sound and sound and later multi-track recording. Leo Fender for the Precision Bass, Beauchamp and Barth for Ricky frying pan and a ton of others. All of those had a major effect on music at a fundamental level. There's tons of others but if it was down to musicians the list would be pretty short and for different reasons. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Paul;
When you guys "stay over" after the Tour next month, REMIND me to take you to Edison's lab for a tour. It's only a few miles from my houe & you'll love it . . . |
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Location: Scotland | Great idea. Jesus, I am a total Geek. |
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Location: NJ | Yer not alone.
I'm fascinated with the place . . . |
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 Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | For pure change to industry, I'd offer up Ry Cooder for doing the first digitally recorded album (Bop Till You Drop). Lots of people poo-poo'd it at first, saying it lacked warmth, wasn't pure, etc. Now, everyone and anyone is recording digitally and look where we are today. The impact on everything related to making and distributing music is huge. |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 383
Location: Indiana | There could be a lot said for the Beatles(my own personal choice for "musicians that influenced the industry"). However a lot could also be said about the ones that influenced or preceded them. Chuck Berry, Little Richard etc, etc. One could actually go much further back to see who started making the guitar something other than a strumming box for a yodeling cowboy on a horse. Andrea Segovia comes to my mind. As far as changing the industry my vote would go to Leo Fender.When he came out with the Prec. and Jazz basses, it changed everything. Every style of music.
As far as having the biggest influence on me, I would go with the Beatles(go figure), Clapton, and Kansas.
Bill |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
For pure change to industry, I'd offer up Ry Cooder for doing the first digitally recorded album (Bop Till You Drop). Lots of people poo-poo'd it at first, saying it lacked warmth, wasn't pure, etc. Now, everyone and anyone is recording digitally and look where we are today. The impact on everything related to making and distributing music is huge. That was the 3M system. So again the credit for "change" should be with the company who originatated the technology, not necessarily the first person to put out an album using it.
If you listen to "Bob Till You Drop" alongside say John Hiatt's "Bring The Family" which was recorded AAD 10 years after "Bop" and compare Cooder's tone on both, BTYD sounds sooooooo lame. Digital recording has come a long way in 30 years. |
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 Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3411
Location: GA USA | 1) I can't believe nobody said Bob Dylan, but I see some other replies that are hard to argue with too. For Prog and Metal, you have to consider Black Sabbath, I think.
2) Loggins & Messina
3) Drivin' n' Cryin' |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 627
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | Many of the artists mentioned are great. But, I'm sure that those artists would cite the Beatles as the catalyst for changes in music. You gotta remember the days when the world was waiting for the next Beatle album to come out, to see what direction their music was going. Soon afterwards every band was imitating their recent work. The Beatles were never content to rest on their success. They were constantly trying something new with their music on each progressive album. Which artists does that today? You notice that when the Beatles broke up, the Stones albums stopped being creative. They had no one left to inspire them. I'm a big fan of the Stones, but look at the way they released albums mimicking what the Beatles were producing. Dylan added the message component in Rock songs. Hendrix took guitarists to a new level and the Alman Bros coveted the jam like no other band. Also, Chuck Berry is the father of rock and roll. I guess that covers it all. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1487
Location: Michigan | Miles I think that you have a valid point but I do think that some bands and musical acts didn't follow that rule of what your manager or promoter wanted such as acts like Alice Cooper that I grew up with . I think they did influence rock & roll quite a bit by being what most considered absolutley crazy at those times.Then after it became accepted some bands like Kiss copied their acts and moved right in to capture their millions of dollars worth of fame. Some bands,musicians,and acts do change the way music has gone .TMHO.GWB. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | gwb, not sure why I'm being singled as other have said the same thing. "Which musician or band has brought about the biggest change or influence on the music industry?" is a much different question than "Which musician or band has brought about the biggest change or influence in music."
Anyway, I agree that "Some bands,musicians,and acts do change the way music has gone"... many in fact. |
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 Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | GWB-- I remember ol' Alice. When it was totally outrageous and unheard of to be kissing a snake or hanging yourself on stage. Wearing strait-jackets and singing about asylums... And if my memory serves me, when he first started doing that, he didn't have a HUGE stage-show. Just a snake, or a noose, and humongous eyelashes painted clown-style.
Then came the bands with explosions, and flying-saucers.
It became a contest to see who could spend the most money on stage...
The Tubes had a good stage-show, with no special effects.
David Bowie and Lou Reed were just being themselves, Weird.
But they couldn't catch-up to Jim Morrison, and he was just being Jim. |
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 Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | 1) I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment.
2) Neil Young and the Ozark Mountain Daredevils. (got me started on harp as well) (You could probably throw in CSN&Y and Lynyrd Skynyrd as well)
3) See 2) |
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Location: Westchester, NY | Didnt Les Paul invent multitrack recording? |
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| THE BEATLES
YES
LED ZEPPELIN
An All American Boy, totally hooked on British Rock. |
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Joined: March 2003 Posts: 555
Location: Wooster, Ohio | I am 55 now but I am amazed frankly that the my children listen and enjoy the Beatles as much as I do. Given the musical gap between me and my parents that really says something about the quality of their music.
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Originally posted by foyle:
Didnt Les Paul invent multitrack recording? Les Paul pioneered sound on sound recording using a pair of (homemade) disc cutting machines. Later, after the introduction of the early Ampex tape machines in the late 1940's he came up with what became known as simul-sync (the ability of a tape machine to record and play simultaneously from the same head) And this was pretty much the foundation of multi-track tape recording |
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 Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by 45flint:
I am 55 now but I am amazed frankly that the my children listen and enjoy the Beatles as much as I do. Given the musical gap between me and my parents that really says something about the quality of their music.
Steve Kinda unrelated to The Beatles-- Alice Cooper, actually,
I was at a party, with a bunch of "kids" in their 20's...
And there, buried in the album pile, was "Love It To Death", by Alice Cooper...
I went to put it on, "Not Alice Cooper, he's Lame" was there response.
I played it anyway, and the kids were saying, "Wow, I didn't know they were that Good."
And to be honest, I hadn't heard that album since the '70's, and yeah...
They were pretty good In-The-Day. |
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 Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Cobo Hall In Detroit.... Had to be about 1971.
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 347
Location: Reno, NV | Anyone notice how huge of an influence the British have had...
Beatles
Stones
Led Zeppelin
Sabbath
Maiden
Floyd |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761
Location: Boise, Idaho | "18" came out in 1971, when I turned 18. Becoming eligible for the draft (lottery) was too much of a concern to allow me to really relate to that song. |
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 843
Location: CA | Hard to pick one. However, it might be salient to add this to the mix: ol' Frank hisself once said, "There's only one genius in our business, and he can't even see." Or words to that effect. He was referring to Ray Charles. |
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