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Location: Phoenix AZ | Our friend Standingovation has been at it again. Check this out. This is absolutely brillient.
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Pisses me off that someone beat me to the punch. Damn it. Ovation should be giving these away with every guitar for people that poo-poo the round plastic back because the guitar points to the sky when you strap it on.
I tell you, I'm SERIOUSLY gonna put some string-tubes up on eBay. I've been working on some concept drawings for the packaging and I already shot step by step installation photos. Just wait.
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Location: NJ | SH!T!!!
Why didn't I think of that!!!
That IS a very inventive idea!! |
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Location: Orange County, California | Now you can experience the awesome tone of a roundback with the playing comfort of a flatback.
Dave,
I thought Tupperware was the "new & improved", more responsible of your alter egos... You should have posted a warning man!! Thankfully I wasn't drinking coffee when I read this, or I might have scalded my self and ruined another keyboard :p :D :p :D |
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Location: NJ | what a POS |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | What!! No Slothead or Two Knob version? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Nice,
When will we get the 75 version? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Is that guy wearing pants? |
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Location: Up North | Welcome to the OFC Guitar Homo (or is that you Tupperware?)
You've obviously been lurking here for a while. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | It ain't me, but certainly looks like something I would have done ...
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | A for creativity and inventiveness . . .
B+ for marketing . . .
A- for presentation . . .
C+ for utility and appeal . . .
A- for per unit profitability . . .
C for revenue potential. |
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| 'C+' ..looks kind of tacky to me, but I've been playing O's for so long I don't think about stuff like that.. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Needs a swinging whammy bar....the logo, I mean.
ProfBB; What do you mean...limited revenue potential? You could sell more than a dozen of them on this site alone!
That kind of marketing plan could get you a 7 million dollar product development loan from the Canadian Government! (If your company is in Quebec or Ontario) |
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Location: NW Washington State | And a D for the name, not just because it's associated with Dave. Seems to me that "Ovation" is the trademark of some major company that might want to enforce its rights. Get one of these now- it could soon be the famous early production "lawsuit model".
-Steve W. |
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Location: NJ | ". . A- for presentation . . ."
Aw, c'MON!!! . . .
The frowning/smiling girl in the before/after pictures???
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Location: In the Closet | Cliff,
Before and after, you mean you just turn them upside down? |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | And nobody here's going to come up with a rounded brace for those "other" guitars? Maybe the "contour" brace as well... |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | It is created from the same material as the back of your Ovation. Would that be the patented Lycrachord, or just some generic plastic? |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by fillhixx:
ProfBB; What do you mean...limited revenue potential? You could sell more than a dozen of them on this site alone! My thoughts exactly.
The patent search and application fees are up to $1500, the logo design was probably at least another $500, and if attorneys are involved, you can double these costs. That's four grand without any product. Add start-up costs of tooling (at least a cutter and press), then labor, materials, packaging, and other product costs, plus liability protection in the event some infant swallows one of the units or a holder snaps off causing irreparable damage to some unsuspecting user's genitals, I'm guessing about 400 units would need to be sold just to break even with the initial outlay.
O.k., its all theoretical, but assuming everything plays out and he can sell 400 in the first two years and begin turning a profit in year three, how many more potential buyers could there possibly be out there? Now if this thing was disposable so it had to be replaced, that might have better profitability and earn the inventor a B. Or much better yet, design something similar that fits a Strat style guitar, where the potential target market might be, what, 100-fold more than us roundback lovers, then it would be worth an A, except the cost to Fender to use its trademark names would likely push the start-up costs much higher. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by cliff:
". . A- for presentation . . ." Aw, c'MON!!! . . . The frowning/smiling girl in the before/after pictures???
:D My personal values aside, and from a pure marketing perspective, there isn't enough sex appeal to warrant an A. Now if she was wearing a bikini, and there were some close-up photos to show how more precisely how the holder fits the contour of the body, then an A would be in order.
Again, this is new product marketing, not family values. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I have to agree with BB, it would be better if she were in a bikini. Though if it were me, the close up photos would be how the guitar fits the contours of the model's body. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by an4340:
. . . the close up photos would be how the guitar fits the contours of the model's body. Precisely. |
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Location: SoCal | That's good marketing for ya'... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
My thoughts exactly..... So it's really true.
Irony is dead in America.
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Damn straight. I know the irony board always squeaks too loud in my house. |
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Oil the wife. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | So is anyone gonna jump in and buy one and give us a review?
I reckon someone here could knock one of them up out of 3mm plywood.
Originally posted by alpep:
what a POS I'll finish for ya, Al; what a POS...ITIVELY fantastic idea.
Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
Now if this thing was disposable so it had to be replaced, that might have better profitability and earn the inventor a B. And there in a nutshell is what's wrong with this modern "throw away" society. :-( |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by muzza:
I reckon someone here could knock one of them up out of 3mm plywood. Build them out of Celebrity tops ??? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by muzza:
I reckon someone here could knock one of them up out of 3mm plywood. Build them out of Celebrity tops ??? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by muzza:
I reckon someone here could knock one of them up out of 3mm plywood. Build them out of Celebrity tops ??? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by muzza:
I reckon someone here could knock one of them up out of 3mm plywood. Build them out of Celebrity tops ??? |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | "I reckon someone here could knock one of them up out of 3mm plywood."
Some people here are so talented they could knock almost anything up. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Weaser P:
Some people here are so talented they could knock almost anything up. or anyONE ;)
Geez, Dave, you've developed quite a stutter, mate :D
Trying to bump up your post count? ;) |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Dave just likes to hear himself type. ;) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | NO. THIS FRIGGIN SITE IS SLOW AS HELL !!!! |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Hey, Miles. What about allowing members with, say 500 posts or more, to be able to delete/edit posts without the silly time limit? :mad:
Pleeeeeeaase? :D :D |
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Location: ranson,wva | i dont have any problmes playing my deep bowls with a strap...the dont tilt up like that one in the listing does.....jason |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Originally posted by muzza:
I reckon someone here could knock one of them up out of 3mm plywood. Build them out of Celebrity tops ???
And quit picking on us po' folks!
Personally, I have two wood boxes, and I find them uncomfortable.
I like being able to tilt my guitar up if I wanna.
I have no trouble standing with SSB, Artist-, or Mid-Depth. [No Deep-Bowl, Yet!]
I think that this is marketing a "Solution in search of a Problem".
[Has anyone out there bought that drug that gets rid of yellow toe-nails? SUCKER!]
Before I received my first round-back (4861) I bought a "Slip-Grip" thingie. I was swayed by the myth, that the sucka would slide onto the floor!
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Location: Australia | I think it's a stupid idea
one of the joys of playing an O standing up is the fact that there's no hard edge against your ribs |
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Location: Australia | this silly gimmick impunes Standing O's good name |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Standingovation wouldn't know what "impunes" means ...
But anyway, I think this thing is a brillient idea for two reasons.
1) I am always intrigued by inventions that change something into something else. Like that salt that you put on your popcorn and makes it taste like butter. Brillient.
2) Some people don't have problems with their ovations pointing at the stars, or maybe they like it that way. Ovation solved it with the Contour Bowl. But not everyone can afford to go out and buy a new guitar, so this is a great solution for those people.
I would not jump to the conclusion that it's a silly gimmick. I can still remember the day apprx. 35 years ago that I saw my first "fold-up, telescoping" umbrella. Totally stupid idea, I thought. Defeats the whole idea of being able to use your umbrella as a walking stick or cane. And it'll drive the makers of umbrella racks out of business.
I'd like to have a penny for every fold up umbrella that's been sold in the past 35 years.
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Our own Standingovation should have made them out of Tupperware containers. :p |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by richardd:
I think it's a stupid idea
one of the joys of playing an O standing up is the fact that there's no hard edge against your ribs OK, forget the plywood. Someone make one out of foam rubber then. |
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