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Location: ranson,wva | i got my adamas back in january and it has the oiled neck. ive waxed it a few times but the more i play it the darker the neck gets,i do put a bit of powder on my palm when i play. will that have any ill effect on the neck? is there something i should be doing oit that im not? just dont wanna mess it up......thanks in advance...jason |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | I hope you get some good answers Jason. It's about time for me to give my 1860's neck a bit of a clean up and I've got no idea where to begin. I've seen a few posts where people talk about steel wool and lemon oil so I'll be watching this with interest.
In 13 years I've only ever given the neck a bit of a wipe but there's a bit of a build up there now.
BTW...what time is it over there right now? |
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Location: ranson,wva | 2:30am april 18 2007. does your 1860 have a glossed or oiled neck??/ jason |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | Originally posted by Jason_S:
2:30am april 18 2007. does your 1860 have a glossed or oiled neck??/ jason I've posted some dumb questions in the past week or so which shows my lack of knowledge and your question is gonna make me look even dumber lol.
Glossed or oiled??.....I dunno :confused: I think it's oiled but how do I tell. This is why I haven't been game to do anything to it.
It's nearly 5 o'clock here, Wednesday afternoon. |
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Location: ranson,wva | here is a glossed neck
ill try to find a oiled neck for exapmle jason |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | I don't think my neck has ever looked like that so I'm guessing it's oiled.
Don't want to hijack your post Jason so I'll check back in later or maybe post another dumb question re necks :) |
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Location: ranson,wva | hgijacking is welcome..lol i prefer the oiled necks over the glossed my self....jason |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | I'll put a couple of pics in my gallery in the next few minutes if you want to have a look. I still don't know how to post photos here. |
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Location: ranson,wva | from the pegheag view of your 1860 it looks like a oiled neck....jason |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | I just took a couple of shots of the neck but my camera won't talk to the computer so I'll try again later.
Wow...this is like the Jason and Oz show...I'd better give someone else a chance :D |
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Location: ranson,wva | ive got a camera that wont take anything with a glossy finish..ive got a couple of nickle plated resonators that i cant take pics of...now i got a better camera with changable lenses that the damn pc wont communicate with......damn junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....jason |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | These are good questions. Regardless of whether the neck is gloss or satin finish, I always thought it was, indeed, sealed and finished. Therefore, no oiling would ever be required to maintain the finish. Maybe a ittle polish to keep it clean, but not something to preserve the wood. Anybody know for sure? |
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Location: SoCal | Somebody in this thread mentioned steel wool and lemon oil. That should be used on the fretboard, not the neck. Wax the neck, if you want (I do that on a couple of guitars with oil finished necks, notably Big Blue and the FD14),but nothing more.
Ovation used to seal and gloss all their necks. Then in the mid/late 80's they went to a satin finish, then finally, it seemed, in the mid 90's to an oiled neck. With the advent of the LX models they went back to glossed necks. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think there are three different types: 1) gloss, 2) satin and 3) oiled. The oiled necks look like bare wood. I use Watley's Olde English oil on the necks. Dave |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Thanks, Tupp. No wonder I'm confused. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | This is why I was asking about wax on another thread. The 47RI and the Millenium both have what I assume to be oiled necks. According to the owners manual:
"The Hand Rubber Urethane Oil Neck:
This neck finish is available on some Ovation models. If your guitar has it, you will notice a natural wood feel on the neck. It requires a higher level of maintenance than a gloss finished neck.
Approximately once a month, if you play daily, you will want to apply a commercially available wax. We recommend...
- Trewax
- Lundmark's Clear Paste Wax
- Butchers Bowling Alley Paste Wax
They are available at most hardware stores."
It was difficult to find any of those waxes, but I ended up with the Bowling Alley wax from an Ace hardware store. None of the big stores had them.
It doesn't mention the other types of necks, so I assume that you would treat those as you treat the finished top (Dunlop 65 or whatever). |
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Location: SoCal | The neck in the pic that Jason posted looks to be a satin neck. With it and the gloss neck, all you need to do is rub them down with a soft clothe after playing. The oiled neck is the only one that needs any maintenance... |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Here's a couple of pics of an oiled neck:
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Location: NJ | Okay, . . let's throw another spanner into the works . . .
The necks on the original SlotHeads were "resin-impregnated" walnut. Is that what was used on the 47RI's???
I've used Butcher's Wax on 54's neck maybe twice(?).
Other than that, I've been using Dun65 the way talentless restaurant cooks use chicken stock . . .
Perhaps I should wax it again before the Anglo/Franco Invasion on my home next month . . . |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Cliff - the Adamas website says that the 47RI neck is "natural satin". I would have to say that I'm more confused than ever. |
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Location: NJ | Then, my job is done here . . .
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Location: Upper Left USA | 50 points for Gryffendor!
Where's an authority when you need one? |
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Location: ranson,wva | paul,the neck i posted is a 1983 1567 legend ssb. that one had a glossed neck. on that one i scrubed the hell out of it with steel wool becuase it felt sticky to me....after playing it a few weeks it gets shiny again. but i no longer have that guitar...thanks for all the answers guys...jason |
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Location: SoCal | I find that, "Less is More".
I prefer satin and oiled necks. After playing, I wipe down the guitar using a little Dunlop 65 Cleaner/Polish. When I restring, I sparingly use bore oil on any wood that is not glossed... necks, fretboards, bridges.
A sparingly applied coat of Butcher's wax on gloss finishes leaves a nice renewable slippery protective layer. |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | I think I can confirm that I have an oiled neck. I've never done anything to it apart from wipe it down. Should I do a bit more serious maintenance on it occasionally?
The guitar is 13 years old and the neck still feels good to me. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Just play it. As you play it, the natural oil from your hand will do it for you.
Sounds like the ideal guitar neck for a maintenance avoider such as myself.
But I've got another question along these lines. What if I don't do anything to the fretboard? (ie, the lemon oil and steel wool) What's the worst that could happen? |
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Location: SoCal | "What if I don't do anything to the fretboard? (ie, the lemon oil and steel wool) What's the worst that could happen?"
The original owner had this guitar custom made ten years ago. Right after receiving it, he loaned it to a friend for a short recording project. When the guitar was returned, it went back into storage... until a few months ago when I acquired it.
The Mothership will restore the guitar. It's not the worst that can happen, but this could have been avoided.
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Location: ranson,wva | bruce,is that a ea viper 12??...jason |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | "What if I don't do anything to the fretboard? (ie, the lemon oil and steel wool) What's the worst that could happen?"
I don't know, I clean my frets every time I change the strings. Even though I wipe down my strings every day that I use the guitar, I still get crud from the first five or seven frets. (shows that I don't play lead, huh?)
Anyway, I would go with the lemon oil. Haven't use the 000 steel wool. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Jason_S:
bruce,is that a ea viper 12??...jason
where ??????????? |
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Location: ranson,wva | lol your post above..lol jason |
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Location: SoCal | Yes it is.
The top has to be refinished and the fretboard will be renewed. |
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Location: ranson,wva | you got quite a collection of the EA series,no? i played one that was for sale localy and it was pretty sweet guitar. i missed that deal by 3hrs.....jason |
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Location: Stow, Ohio | Jason,
It sounds like your camera can't focus on shiny surfaces (not enough contrast). that's easy to fix. Focus on the edge of the neck, or something in the same focal range. hold the shutter release in half way, compose the shot and press the shutter release.
Do I understand that you bought a digital SLR?
Digital with interchangable lenses? What model?
Nikon shootin' fool here. |
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Location: ranson,wva | elliot,heres a few links to some of my photography skills(be afraid,verry verry afraid..lol) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/slothead83/000_0575.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/slothead83/BALLADEER.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/slothead83/balladeer1.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/slothead83/folkloregddeluxe...
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