can anyone else here not read music?
Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-20 10:35 PM (#104423)
Subject: can anyone else here not read music?


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today i started to learn floyd's "wish you were here" i learn every thing by video lessons,youtube,ect...because i cant read music at all. and i can read barly any tab...when using tab ive got to look at my chord chart..

i was just wondering if anyone else cant ready ANY music at all or if im the odd one in the bunch....jason
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-20 10:44 PM (#104424 - in reply to #104423)
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jason, i can't read music at all. there was a very exhaustive thread on this subject recently.
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-20 10:48 PM (#104425 - in reply to #104423)
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the thing is randy, i used to be able to read music...its a strange thing...jason
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muzza
Posted 2007-04-20 10:49 PM (#104426 - in reply to #104423)
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Yeah, Jason. You're the odd one in the bunch. And I'd guess that most of us can't read music. :D

And Randy, I was exhausted reading that thread, too! ;)
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Beggin
Posted 2007-04-20 11:19 PM (#104427 - in reply to #104423)
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Not me, not a note, not a lick, my interpretation is not even CLOSE..But, I am one of the few that listens to me, SO, who cares.

Play for you and only you and let the others wonder.

At the coast, last weekend, I played a song for the family..my 26 year old niece told me that she hadn't quite heard it that way before...BUT, it didn't stop her from singing the WHOLE song with me....Oh Well, what ever works!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-04-20 11:43 PM (#104428 - in reply to #104423)
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:rolleyes: Let's see... The big O is a Whole note, the O with a stick is a Half note, get a flag and it's a Quarter note... After that, just start counting flags and the music gets real fast and complicated.
As the dots go up, the music gets higher...
The other staff, with the moon-thingie, is for bass...

Yeah Jason, I learned to read music in Grade School, playing the "Tonette" (plastic Recorder) then the Clarinet (expensive Recorder)...
Got stoned and smoke cigarettes in High School, lost my wind and can't blow a note. And can't remember sh!t.
Can't read Tab more than enough to check-out a riff, if it ain't too complicated.
Go by Chords, and listen to the song... And Hope!
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gh1
Posted 2007-04-20 11:59 PM (#104429 - in reply to #104423)
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I read music -- so what? Play what you love, that's all that counts. Spend your time on what makes you happy. Time is limited. Will reading music get you closer to your goals? If not, forget it. If it will, then you can learn.

Follow your heart man.

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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-04-21 12:20 AM (#104430 - in reply to #104423)
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Hell I can't read, can't play, but I can hack any song to pieces :D
Gotz me a heavy metal version of Bye Bye Love (Phil and Don would not be happy)
Hotel California, and Folsum Prison Blues.
:D :D
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-04-21 12:21 AM (#104431 - in reply to #104423)
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I can read music and tabs at a basic level - however, I must find the missing synapses that carry the signal from my brain to my hands.
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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-04-21 12:50 AM (#104432 - in reply to #104423)
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Originally posted by CrimsonLake:
I can read music and tabs at a basic level - however, I must find the missing synapses that carry the signal from my brain to my hands.
That would be Tequilla!! :D
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-21 12:55 AM (#104433 - in reply to #104423)
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i can look at the fretboard on songs i know that i know but sometimes the damn connection between the brain and hands dont work to well. thats when i throw in a bend or if im playing electric ill just stomp on the bad monkey and digiverb and let the distortion cover my ass..lol i played a bit with crimson when we were at al's....he can astes my lack of skill but i still have fun..im having a ball leaning "wish you were here" tried it on electric but i hacked it to bits..lol jason
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-21 1:35 AM (#104434 - in reply to #104423)
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Are we talking those little dots? Hell, with the on set of chronic middle age, I can barely see them. I'll stick to reading my Penthouse letters with the big print....
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-21 1:37 AM (#104435 - in reply to #104423)
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the fingering paul,i know where they need to be but the connection from head to hands is off sometimes..i blame that on blunt force truma a few years back....jason
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-04-21 1:38 AM (#104436 - in reply to #104423)
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Read music? Hell, half the posters here cannot read nor write the Queens English!
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-21 2:08 AM (#104437 - in reply to #104423)
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HEY!!!!!!! I resemble that remark..lol jason
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-04-21 2:39 AM (#104438 - in reply to #104423)
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And I thought this was a gathering of conservatory students...oh sorry fillboy,I know U `re busy gobbling Tim Hortons Timbits,U Cultural man...have n`t reached the Maplesyrup and Canadian Club crowd yet eh.....

Vic
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-04-21 3:01 AM (#104439 - in reply to #104423)
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Be careful of that "Wish You Were Here" thing, Jason...
I wanted to learn that for a long time.
Tried to figure it out often.
I finally looked it up, and figured it out.
So now, when I pick-up a guitar, and my brain draws a blank,
I automatically start to play that.
Probably pisses my neighbors off.

DEE, deedle-dir-durr, dee-dee-DEE-doughrn... :mad:
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-04-21 7:40 AM (#104440 - in reply to #104423)
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can't read music, can't play music, I just like hanging out here.....
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Jeff
Posted 2007-04-21 8:33 AM (#104441 - in reply to #104423)
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Chet Atkins had a great comeback when someone once asked him if he could read music; he said, "Not enough to hurt my guitar playing!" :D
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Goober
Posted 2007-04-21 9:46 AM (#104442 - in reply to #104423)
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Don't fool yourself, Chet could read. He studied classical guitar from John Knowles and others for years in Nashville. But it is true; it didn't hurt his playing! :D

Personally, I think reading music should be only for violin and piano players. :p

As my first guitar teacher said, "Just know your progressive chords, son!" That usually meant a 9th and a 13th chord. LOL!! :cool: ;)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-21 10:18 AM (#104443 - in reply to #104423)
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Chet's father was a voice teacher and his older brother Jim played guitar with the Les Paul Trio. He could read and stated so in interviews....
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Goober
Posted 2007-04-21 10:22 AM (#104444 - in reply to #104423)
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Great info, Moody! I heard Chester's bro was a really good player. Must be some good genes...and that East TN work ethic.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-21 10:39 AM (#104445 - in reply to #104423)
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Jim used to send Chester charts during the war when Jim was in New York with the trio and Chester was still at home learning....
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alpep
Posted 2007-04-21 10:46 AM (#104446 - in reply to #104423)
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when I was in college I could read in 3 or 4 postions on the neck.
but sadly if you don't use it you lose it.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-04-21 11:42 AM (#104447 - in reply to #104423)
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I'll bet I could pick up a clarinet and play it, although I haven't touched one in 40 years, but after 2 years of piano lessons as an adult, I can't remember a thing and I never learned the notes on the guitar neck. I think learning as a kid just stays with you better. Something about old dogs.
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Beal
Posted 2007-04-21 11:44 AM (#104448 - in reply to #104423)
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I can't read music. I can translate the notes with enough time but forget the time signatures. Tab is better but I'm still very slow so I don't do it often. Much easier to have someone show you the lick.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-21 11:46 AM (#104449 - in reply to #104423)
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I've learned fingerpicking tunes with tab, but it's literally one bar at a time. Over the course of a few years, I learned Jerry Reed's The Claw that way. Then it's taken me 10 years to get it up to speed.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-04-21 1:40 PM (#104450 - in reply to #104423)
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I seem to have a lot more in common with W2, besides the obvious good looks and charming personality!

Most of what I have learned came from being around others and instructional videos (plagarism saves time). Then there's the old favorite of playing the LP over and over again until its the absolute last song anyone in the house wants to hear you play!

I know about sheet music and can painfully decipher Tab. I'm a lot better now at Key recognition and transposing. Mainly due to playing a Papoose and now the Longneck.

Necessity can be a mother...
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Jeff
Posted 2007-04-21 2:37 PM (#104451 - in reply to #104423)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Chet's father was a voice teacher and his older brother Jim played guitar with the Les Paul Trio. He could read and stated so in interviews....
I couldn't have told you whether he read or not. I just think that's a great line, regardless.
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Yak
Posted 2007-04-22 4:26 PM (#104452 - in reply to #104423)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Be careful of that "Wish You Were Here" thing, Jason...
I wanted to learn that for a long time.
Tried to figure it out often.
I finally looked it up, and figured it out.
So now, when I pick-up a guitar, and my brain draws a blank,
I automatically start to play that.
Probably pisses my neighbors off.

DEE, deedle-dir-durr, dee-dee-DEE-doughrn... :mad:
LOL :D

That exactly what I do too.
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Yak
Posted 2007-04-22 4:27 PM (#104453 - in reply to #104423)
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Originally posted by Yak:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Be careful of that "Wish You Were Here" thing, Jason...
I wanted to learn that for a long time.
Tried to figure it out often.
I finally looked it up, and figured it out.
So now, when I pick-up a guitar, and my brain draws a blank,
I automatically start to play that.
Probably pisses my neighbors off.

DEE, deedle-dir-durr, dee-dee-DEE-doughrn... :mad:
LOL :D

That's exactly what I do too.
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Oddball
Posted 2007-04-22 8:08 PM (#104454 - in reply to #104423)
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WAtch this. It's to the point and totally hysterical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOAY-zURlGA
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Oddball
Posted 2007-04-22 8:09 PM (#104455 - in reply to #104423)
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Watch this. To the point and totally hysterical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOAY-zURlGA
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-04-22 9:30 PM (#104456 - in reply to #104423)
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Thank You! Thank You! and Thank You!
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-04-23 8:29 AM (#104457 - in reply to #104423)
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Originally posted by Jason_S:

i was just wondering if anyone else cant ready ANY music at all or if im the odd one in the bunch....jason
What's music? Oh you mean those funny looking circles and lines on the paper. :confused:
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-23 8:58 AM (#104458 - in reply to #104423)
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I wouldn't say that I was great at reading music, but I can fake it well enough that real musicians believe I can. I've been reading vocal scores for 25 years, so I tend to hum it to myself, then play what I hear.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-04-23 9:35 AM (#104459 - in reply to #104423)
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It`s not difficult to read music,.....U just have to learn how....A B C D E F G.....see , there`s nothing to it...now,how to get the bar-owner to shell out ...that`s the trick :)

Vic :cool:
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gh1
Posted 2007-04-23 11:44 AM (#104460 - in reply to #104423)
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This will help get you started reading music. Or convince you it's not worth the trouble.

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gh1
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-04-23 11:54 AM (#104461 - in reply to #104423)
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WOW !!.....I knew that it was a good decision not to learn the SAX... :)

Thanks for sharing

Vic :cool:
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tragocaster
Posted 2007-04-24 9:42 PM (#104462 - in reply to #104423)
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I can read VERY slowly. But I don't use it at all. I took up the trombone in Jr. High school, and learned to read for that pretty good. However, it's in the bass clef, and I'd already been playing the guitar by ear since I was about 5, and I never had the patience to try to learn to read for the guitar. It's just so much quicker by ear for me. I'm real slow with tabulature too.

I have a buddy that can sight read like no one that I've ever seen. He writes charts for a whole orchestra without an instrument available. He can just look at a chart and hear it in his head. He's also a monster pianist, mandolinist, bassist, guitarist, and I even used him on drums on a couple of gigs.
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