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Location: 6 String Ranch | OK fun time but you'll need to think a little:
Over the history of Ovation name the 5 most ground breaking inventions/creations/addaptations that have moved the state-of-the-art of guitars forward.
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I don't know much, but considering only what comes out of Hartford, these are the ones that seem obvious to me . . .
1. Unconventional round shape back
2. Unconventional bowl material
3. Unconventional carbon fiber top
4. Losing the center round hole
5. FET pickup
Outside Hartford, I guess I would have to add solid state amps and electronic effects as well (not necessarily improved tone, but certainly less expensive). |
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Location: NJ | carbon fiber top
round back (but that was used on mandos and lutes)
acoustic electric but the pickup was borrowed from baldwin
come to think of it this is difficult |
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Location: SoCal | I would guess manufacturing processes, adhesives, neck reinforcement (k-bar), electronics, and for some reason, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking distribution, but I don't know why.... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | 1# Concept
2# Lyracord Bowl
3# Piezo P U
4# pre-amp
5# Molded Case ( I think Ovation came up
with that idea )
( 6# does the 5 piece neck count ? )
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Location: East Tennessee | 1. The round back design. Forver changing the shape of music.
2. The piezo pickup Making the Acoustic electric guitar a reality.
3. The Adamas Graphite topped guitar. Need I say more.
4. The Elite series. Wood topped guitars without the traditional center soundhole.
5. The contour bowl. Allowing those who shape in music would make playing an Ovation easier.
The opinions expressed are only what I think. I'm sure that others will improve upon the list. |
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Location: Scotland | 1) The Ovation pickup/Preamp
2) Graphite neck reinforcement on the Magnum, Deacon 12 and Adamas slots
3) Use of carbon fibre in a soundboard
4) Adamas soundhole concept
5)The Academy guitars
Number 5 is a personal favourite of mine, but the first 4 were goundbreaking and hugely influential |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | 1. carbon sandwich top
2. string through bridge
3. cwk's retirement |
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Location: Up North | 1. Bowl material & construction technique
2. Under saddle pickup
3. K-Bar
4. Carbon fibre top with Adamas soundholes
5. Applause/Celebrity - low cost versions before competitors make them. |
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Location: NJ | Any 5 of the orignal SlotHeads. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | In the order I'm thinking of them, not order of importance...
-The roundback guitar. Made the acoustic instrument louder, with a more complete steel string sound (less muddy), and stronger.
-The acoustic/electric pickup under the bridge that made it possible to play an amplified acoustic guitar without worrying about feedback.
-I'll have to take everyone else's word on the Adamas guitars. They don't exactly grab me but seem to be an advancement in the instrument. (you can't teach taste!)
Guess I can't do five. No Koa TRC for me!
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I'm no expert either but six come to my mind ...
1) The Ovation PUP
2) The adamas carbon fibre top
3) The bowl and materials it's made out of
4) Sound hole arrangement
5) Innovative neck design
6) No pin bridge |
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Location: NJ | D-Scale. |
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Location: south east Michigan | There are a lot of guesses already so I won't complicate things. But I do think the Kaman Bar belongs in the top 5. |
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Location: Poplar Bluff Mo | A different take:
Glen Campbell
Meliss Etheridge
Marcel Dadi
Matt Smith
Al DiMeola
Plus One More Al:
Al Pepiak (should be on the R & D payroll at Ovation!) |
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Location: Omaha, NE | I think 100 years from now, Ovation will be known as the company that introduced the pickup to acoustic guitars. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The TOP five I can think of:
1. Active electronics in solid body guitars.
2. Although the concept came from Travis Bean, using Urelite with an aluminum core enabling the mounting of the brdge and neck to the same core. (UKII)
3. The tri-mount system of mounting pickups.
4. The tri-mount system of mounting bridges.
5. The idea of the semi-set-neck. (lightly glueing a bolt-on neck)
The few I can think of.
5. Rail pickups with non-magnetic rails.
5. Ergonomics before the term existed.
6. Large single vol/tone controls. (Viper)
8. Again, not sure if they were first, but the idea of getting parts from around the world, including the USA and then assembling them in the USA. (Storm, Medallion, UltraGS/GP)
9, The best looking strat-style guitar of all the clones out there (yeah subjective) UltraGS.
Some things I'm not sure if they did first, but glad they did them:
- Modular designed internals of amps. (not sure if they did it first, (but I haven't seen in anywhere else)
- Pickups with poles mounted at an angle.
- Pickups with the whole pickup mounted at an angle
- Hot wound pickups as stock parts.
A few of these I'm not sure about if Kaman did them first, or just used or implemented a good idea.
Then of course there's the whole round back, CF top, k-bar thing... |
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Location: Stow, Ohio | K-Bar thing?
I use a 5mm allen wrench glued into a 5mm socket on a extension and a ratchet. |
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Location: Tampa, FL | 1. Application of mechanical engineering principles and methods to guitars
2. Active preamps
3. Piezo pickups
4. Application of compsite materials in stringed instruments (offshoot of #1)
5. As a business, focused on building and delivering a reasonably priced, durable, high quality product with predictable performance. |
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Larry
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Location: Alberta, Canada | At the moment the only thing jumping out at me is CNC machining, given what's been stated so far. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | This has been said before, but...
The Pin-less Bridge.
I really hate bridge pins! Two of my guitars have them and I hate 'em.
I really like the Bowl.
I like the choice of Sizes of Bowls.
I like the epaulet-style Sound-Holes.
I really like the K-bar.
Did I mention that I like the String-Through Bridge, and I Hate Bridge-Pins? :cool: |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by wtw84:
A different take:
Glen Campbell
Meliss Etheridge
Marcel Dadi
Matt Smith
Al DiMeola
Plus One More Al:
Al Pepiak (should be on the R & D payroll at Ovation!) hmmmmmm I like the way this guy thinks!!!!!! |
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Location: Central Oregon | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
This has been said before, but...
The Pin-less Bridge.
I really hate bridge pins! Two of my guitars have them and I hate 'em.
I really like the Bowl.
I like the choice of Sizes of Bowls.
I like the epaulet-style Sound-Holes.
I really like the K-bar.
Did I mention that I like the String-Through Bridge, and I Hate Bridge-Pins? :cool: You'd really like this little setup OMA. This is the easiest guitar I have to change strings on, my little Tacoma Papoose. You poke the end in the slot, slide towards the skinny part & that's it for that end. No pins, not even holes you have to thread the strings through.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | That's effin Awesome! I still like the Ovation bridge much better.
But that shows someone was thinking outside the box.
That would make for instant easy access to the sound hole...
Although, I don't think you hafta change a battery in a Papoose. |
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Location: Central Oregon | Nope, no battery, but it does have a pickup. It sounds good plugged in. |
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Location: SoCal | Bill, what's your take on this? |
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Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville | #1) The CWKII signature on the most fortunate labels. :cool: |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | How bout the way the base of the neck is designed, with the angle fitting into the cutaway.
No Pickguards. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Interesting. My 5 would be;
the bowl
the pickup
grafite top
pinless bridge
long neck
I know some of these weren't really invented by Ovation but the company popularizing the use of it made the world aware of it, therefore Ovation gets the credit. |
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Name 5 things