why collection?
jazzjava
Posted 2007-05-06 7:50 AM (#101711)
Subject: why collection?


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Do you collect guitars?
I thought it would be ok if I get a guitar that I want.
However, folks, you have several guitars.
Is it for different genre, use or design?

Actually I thought myself now what if I have more than two guitars. It may be a design with color to me.
I actually ordered viper ea63 however even now I want to change the color from that I ordered. I think it's too late to compose colors again to almost producted guitar.

And eventually, I get to think I may order another nylon stringed ovation with different color that I want in the future.
Is it wasteful and useless idea?

Of course I believe they will make a good guitar in spite of annoying color and design picking.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2007-05-06 8:04 AM (#101712 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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It's a disease.

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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-06 8:24 AM (#101713 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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..All That JAZZ....
Jazzy ,let me explain , No-One here collects guitars,we have several instruments , mainly because we have a Dire Need to Express ourselves , and to Convey Our Important Message to the World , which Consists of,let`s say ,Mood,Sound ,Esthetics,Political Disbeliefs, that Requires the Appropriate Tools,Look,U would n`t be able to fix a car just with a screwdriver ( U could get real screwed that way ),so ya need a tool-kit , same here , One guitar( the idea alone " shudder" ) will not Cut it,so ya need a String-Cutter , when ya feel "Blue" ya Need a Blue Guitar,Red for R & R , for Classical, a Cedar Top, etc. ,etc , So U see,having Several Guitars is an Absolute Necessity,a " Must " , Dictated by the World`s Craving for Passionate Entertainment...
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..Let JAVA Out of His Cage.....Ooohm..

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an4340
Posted 2007-05-06 8:54 AM (#101714 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Collecting seems to me based on a couple factors:

Desire
Time
Money
Space

Desire-How much do you want it. What need does it fulfill.
Time-Do you have time to play, and /or care for all those instruments
Money - After a while it gets expensive
Space - Guitars take up space

For me, I currently have parred my collection to 4 guitars.
1 Telecaster copy for electric use
2 Country artist nylon for acoustic tex mex, latin and country work.
3 MEWP-II For my steel string flat top needs
4 OSP-1 for travel and a change of pace for that electric mando sound.

That's it. I'd love to have more, but I don't have the time to play more, I don't have the space to store more and I have to be careful with my money.

So with 4 guitars my needs are fulfilled. Some people are different. They have more time to play, more space to store instruments, need a more diverse group of intstruments, collect for an investment, collect them because they are tools, collect them because they are beautiful ...

You have to decide what you want and what you need.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-05-06 9:15 AM (#101715 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
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Designzilla
Posted 2007-05-06 9:19 AM (#101716 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Java, here is where the "guitars are like ice cream" analogy comes in. There are of many different flavors. All of my guitars are different flavors - they play differently, sound different and some lend themselves to different styles of music or playing. When I got my nylon string Country Artist, it felt and sounded so different I changed my style of playing and the things I played on that guitar. I started learning things I probably wouldn't have learded otherwise. I feel that way about each of my guitars. Each one has it own sound and personality. When GAS strikes I'm always looking for something different to compliment everything else I own.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-05-06 9:26 AM (#101717 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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For about thirty years I just had my two guitars. The ol' Balladeer & Breadwinner. Since joining the OFC I have added four. I never thought I would own 3 stringed instuments let alone 6.
But even at 6 I don't concider myself a collector. I would instead say that I have a "well rounded assortment" of Ovations. If I was a true collector I'd have a never ending hankering for another guitar. As it is now my Balladeer & Breadwinner don't get the playing time they deserve. My G.A.S. affliction has virtually disappeared because I feel I now have (1) Every instrument I need to satisfy whatever meger talent I have been blessed with and (2), because I feel the guitars I currently own represent all that I want in a guitar collection.

Being...
The Balladeer... My first acoustic. This is the one that has the most of my DNA rubbed into it. Lots of history and memories wrapped up in that guitar. I can look at a picture of that young, skinny, full head-o-hair kid with the guitar then look across the room and see that same instrument sitting there. Precious few other material possessions have traveled along with me this far.

The Breadwinner... This satisfies the collectors need to own a true "vintage" guitar. A very early example (ser# 906) that is in perfect working order. The ever so slight amount of fret wear only shows that my favorite chord over the years has been "D".

The Al DiMeola II... This one broke the status quo. I went in the store to buy just a standard Elite and walked out with this bling filled beauty and a Fender Acoustisonic amp. As Ovation's top of the line, wood topped model there is not many others left to desire.

The U681T... The extreme other side of the DiMeola coin. Slothead.... 12 fret... stark black elegance... that legendary textured top. There are other high end Adamas models, both old and new, that may cost more money, but this one is definatly part of that family.

The Trekker... The one I don't have to worry about. A campfire sing along, leave in the car (within reason), take to the Grand Canyon guitar. No.. it's not a tone monster. But it is humbly sincere in it's own way.

The UKE... because life is just to short to not be good.

Maybe for a while I was a true "collector". But I feel like I might really be over it.... for now.
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povation
Posted 2007-05-06 9:58 AM (#101718 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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The happiness you can play & pay. Do it & collect them, Jazzjava.
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noah
Posted 2007-05-06 10:04 AM (#101719 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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jazzjava,

What did you order?
What do you now want to change?

And... there is nothing wrong with having a few guitars.
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Beggin
Posted 2007-05-06 10:27 AM (#101720 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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jj,

In the past year I have renewed my love with playing the guitar (after a 25 year absense). I have had a long time to think about what I would like to play and the style(s) I want to play in. I have been lucky enough to acquire the guitars to fit these styles.

I hopefully have completed my little collection (as of late last night), it is as follows:

1) 1976 Epiphone acoustic (my first guitar)
2) Ovation 1867 Legend (for the shallow bowl and inexpensive cost - bought used)
3) Ovation 1778LX (had to have a least one new one and love the tone)
4) Ovation Custom Legend 1158 (needed a 12 string and got alot of bling too, not to mention a 12 fret to the body, slothead, boomer)
5) Ovation Viper (had to have an electric to fill out the stable)

Not really a collection, but now I have a guitar to fit my many modes! I don't believe that I need any more guitars, but would not rule out the possibility of upgrading (1 in / 1 out) someday.

Good Luck in your future collecting, get what makes you happy. If it doesn't, then sell it, and try again!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-05-06 11:55 AM (#101721 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Some of all of the above. It's a mental illness. I don't really consider it a collection, although most would probably disagree. A collection to me implies some element of uselessness. I try to have what I "need", which opens up another debate, "How many guitars do you need?"
I had one guitar for years and rarely used it. When I bought a 12 string, my wife questioned why anyone needed two guitars. To me, a 12 string is a different instrument or tool. Would anyone question the need for a chain saw when you have a table saw? Totally different tools, although someone might say, "You already have a saw. Why would you need another?" I don't know of anyone who says I'm a saw collector because I have several different saws.
I'm liking this analogy as I'm thinking about it. I need a nylon string guitar to play songs that don't require it, but are better played on a nylon string guitar. Classical music and Spanish music (although I do very little of either). An electric guitar is a totally different tool from an acoustic.
That gets you to about 4 different guitars. Then there are the smaller variations, like the different neck widths and cutaways. Different variations of tools that are better for different songs.
I've worked my way up to about 6. Beyond that we get into my "justifications" that are a little less rational. I don't need them, I deserve them.
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-06 1:55 PM (#101722 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Collecting guitars? People do that?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-06 3:38 PM (#101723 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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( Q Mark )" I deserve them "

Well Put , Maitre !

( Q CWK ) " Collecting guitars? People do that?"

`F Couse Not... :D

Vic
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-05-06 5:25 PM (#101724 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I only have as many guitars as I can afford...

Seriously,

I don't ever want to have more guitars that I can't play them all frequently, but I want a variety to pick from.
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saccaguea
Posted 2007-05-06 5:51 PM (#101725 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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You guys are making me look alot better to my wife with all this collecting going on. Your rashionalizations are also very helpful. It's kinda like if you're really ugly and you stand next an even uglier guy, you don't look as bad..

Thanks All !!!
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saccaguea
Posted 2007-05-06 5:56 PM (#101726 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Hmmmm. What should I get next?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-06 6:02 PM (#101727 - in reply to #101711)
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( Q Saccaguea ) " Hmmmm. What should I get next?"

A Bicycle..... :)

Vic
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-06 6:19 PM (#101728 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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saccageau, tell her less than 100 is rookie status and she wouldn't want you to be a rookie, would she?
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saccaguea
Posted 2007-05-06 6:38 PM (#101729 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I'm sure she wouldn't want me to be a rookie, but I'm afraid to tell her that. I know, I'll just tell her if I get caught and the smoke & mirrors don't trick her.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-05-06 7:18 PM (#101730 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I buy guitars because they either sound good, look good, have some historical significance or just strike some special chord with me. The truth is that I only need one guitar to survive. Any high quality guitar would do the job, as long as it was not a Taylor.

I started collecting ovations because I wanted one of every type - balladeer, legend, elite, custom legend, folklore, etc. Deep, shallow, cutaway, non ... I gathered up a lot of guitars that were very beautiful to look at. The problem was that 95% of them sounded like crap compared to wooden guitars. So I started selling them off and buying wooden guitars such as Martin, Takamine and Collings. I kept a few of the most special (to me) ovations. I'm very happy to have fewer, but nicer, guitars.

Dave
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-05-06 7:21 PM (#101731 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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95%???
really?
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-05-06 7:32 PM (#101732 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
95%??? really?
Sure. But that's just my opinon, based on my ears, and what my brain interprets is a "good" sounding guitar. Others will disagree 180 degrees. That's fine.

Take the U681 12 string for example. I think THAT is one of the most incredible instruments ever produced. I'd put it ahead of every single 12-string I've ever owned or played. No contest. BUT ... as far as I know only a few people have bought them which completely shocks me.

There are no "definate" answers when you're talking about peoples opinions.

Dave
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-06 8:20 PM (#101733 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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" There are no "definate" answers when you're talking about peoples opinions."

Dave

Ah,So True,and Yet..somehow there are those (instruments) that simply have that "sound" ,Now,considering that you have the opportunity to compare rather many different instruments,and having seen pictures of you as a young lad playing guitar( your gallery )which shows ( in my opinion) that you have an "ear for music" So I , for one, would respect your opinion regarding the sound of a certain guitar,..I reserve the "Right" to disagree though.. :)

Vic
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-06 8:25 PM (#101734 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Oh there's a definate answer, everybody has one!

You do start that way, with just one and then it's to get a set and then ....
I had a Travis Bean, then one of every model in each color, and one of the two double necks and passed on the other one. Made it up to 61. They are all gone now.
I started with a style 2 tricone, and then had to have one of each style made, with a few duplicates. Add to that some single cones and then there are a pile of Nationals. I've moved some of them but have most still around.
And then there were the Fenders, one of every model in red, now gone and Gibsons and on and on.
I only have 4 Martins, those, maple necks and Bursts can run into the big bucks. It's a good place to put money but they take up a lot of room. Going between two houses with all of them is a real pita. I'm more into playing than having these days. Times change.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-05-06 8:40 PM (#101735 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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I don't know how you define "collection". It's one of those, "I'll know it when I see it" kinda things.

Compared to some here, my "collection" is small. I own 14 guitars and a uke, so call it 14 1/3 guitars. Before the OFC, I had 5 guitars, so I've definitely added a few more. But with me (and I've said this before), almost every guitar I own came to me in a special way. I really didn't set out to buy "one of everything". I wish I could, but apparently only Bill and Dave can afford to do that. All the more power to 'em.

I pick up each of my guitars and think, gee, if I had to live with just this one, I'd be fine with that (with the exception of my old Legend... that guitar really does sound like crap but it's kept for sentimental reasons).

It's a good feeling. Life's too short to own a lot of crappy guitars. There's only room for one in each collection........
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-06 8:55 PM (#101736 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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I bought my Pseudo-Strat, with amp, for $99, cuz I know a few chords, and I wanted to remember how to play House of the Rising Sun before I was 50...
I kept trying to play a "clean" sound, but that weren't working, so I got a cheap wood-box.
I saw an Ultra, was reminded of Ovations, so I got the 4861...
I wanted a tuner, so I got the GC057.
I decided that I wanted a cheap 12-String, so I got a good non-O...
I wanted humbuckers, so I got the Silvertone Rockit Phony SG.
I wanted a REAL USO, so I got the 1621.
I wanted epaulets, but not another SSB, so I got the CC44...

See, everything has a reason! :p

But I gotta bite my lip, when I see some of the guitars going by...
I have eight guitars in a studio apartment. And I can only play one at a time. I am considering passing on the Johnson and one electric to people who need them. I don't use them, plus I would have more room for something pretty.
Also, Helping out people is Good Karma.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-06 9:20 PM (#101737 - in reply to #101711)
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( Q ) " I pick up each of my guitars and think, gee, if I had to live with just this one, I'd be fine with that (with the exception of my old Legend... that guitar really does sound like crap)."

That`s an interesting point of view , my Legend 1617 is the "Senior" in my stable,and with Martin 12-54`s the one that resembles a Dreadnought most,here I would like to quote CWK :

"Oh there's a definate answer, everybody has one!"

..it seems to me that at times the "reviews" of an instrument are based very loosely,..I miss a few points..what strings are mounted and How Old are they ??..strings have to be straight ,that takes a while ,has the TOP "settled in", a Solid Top takes several years to open up,and ,I would say,that What Type of Music is being played on it could be a Decisive Factor on an eventual Verdict,fast note by note playing,may require a "behaviour" different than "slow strum",and have you noticed that at certain Chords,a Guitar will "Ring forever" ,but at other Chords it will nearly Stop right away ..Now this would have a tremendous Impact on a persons perception of How it Sounds,I was/am contemplating on "mapping" my guitars,( where they "ring out"...where "mellow sounding" )..but Oh.....different strings have Impact too....I`ve thrown scriblings away..made notes again..threw them away..So listening to fellow pickers/strummers opinions give me a hint or two,after all,there has to be a reason why certain Guitarmodels are cherished by many..

PS I do Respect your opinion Moody,I just do n`t understand your remark on that 1617 :)

Vic
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gh1
Posted 2007-05-06 9:23 PM (#101738 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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For me it's two things --

First; the search for the personal definition of THE one. It plays well, looks great, and has a great tone. Not there yet so ......

Second; it's more about tone than just another guitar. No acoustic will fill the tone slot of an electric and visa versa. In each of those two broad categories there is different tones.

I suspect when i find what i'm looking for in each category i'll sell the rest and have just two to four guitars. And an Ovation may or may not be in there --- who knows. I'll know it when i hear it.

_____
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-05-06 9:28 PM (#101739 - in reply to #101711)
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Collection? Depending on the standard, probably not....the size of the stable is a bit smaller right now. Gertrude (1111-4) because she's a permanent member of the family; Jewel (the Princess, CE868LX-4) because my shoulder needed a shallow bowl; Jazzey (the Tornado) for the effects stuff; Blanca (the Viper) for rock stuff; a Guild for the rare times I crave the old wood sound; the Steinberger for thumpin' bass; a few assorted bluegrass things including the dreaded banjo; and a truly dead classical guitar for show. Are there things I'd like to add to the stable? Of course. And maybe down the road......I guess, though, I should just be thankful to have the nice ones that I do. After all, one guitar makes you rich if you live somewhere where no one has one.

--Karen
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alpep
Posted 2007-05-07 7:19 AM (#101740 - in reply to #101711)
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I had no way to answer this question until yesterday.

I went to a communion party for my cousin's kid and another cousin's kid asked me about playing guitar. He is 14. He asked me if it was fun. My response was that I have been playing since I was in 2nd grade and nothing in my life gives me more pleasure. I can pick up a guitar zone out on all my worries and problems and just get lost in the music that I make.

as a result the instruments that I own that help me achieve this goal are vital to my "therapy".

damn think I can write these off?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-05-07 9:16 AM (#101741 - in reply to #101711)
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Although most of mine are playable, I really only play maybe six of them regularly. The remainder are always displayed in my music room and I really enjoy just looking at them. Like Al, I get lost in my own music and the ambiance of the music room contributes to the experience.
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Omaha
Posted 2007-05-07 9:23 AM (#101742 - in reply to #101711)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
A collection to me implies some element of uselessness. I try to have what I "need", which opens up another debate, "How many guitars do you need?"
Over the years, at two different performances, I've seen both sides of that.

Back in the early 1980's, I saw Eric Clapton playing at the Omaha Civic Auditorium. It was a fantastic show...the crowd was totally into it and he was on fire. Played at least two hours, plus five or six encores, and never switched guitars once. Same strat the whole way through.

A few years ago, we saw Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers over at the Mid America Center. Our seats were on the left side of the stage, and we had a perfect view of the roadies as they worked. Both Petty and Mike Campbell switched guitars between every single song. They had racks and racks of them lined up, and numerous guys pulling them down, tuning them up, and running them on stage for each song. It was really pretty impressive. They had it to such a degree of fluidity that it wasn't distracting unless you looked for it.

Other than switching between acoustic and electric, I don't swap guitars. But then again I don't have a pack of roadies bringing them to me either...could have used them on Saturday night. During the second set, the battery on my Taylor died (dumb mistake...should have put in the fresh ones before the show), so I switched to the electric....and promptly broke a string. Good grief.
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brainslag
Posted 2007-05-07 10:34 AM (#101743 - in reply to #101711)
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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Riiiight... Let me help your problem by taking that curly maple V.III off your hands :D
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MWoody
Posted 2007-05-07 10:34 AM (#101744 - in reply to #101711)
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I prefer the term "Arsenal".
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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-05-07 10:38 AM (#101745 - in reply to #101711)
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I don't see a problem....
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-07 10:39 AM (#101746 - in reply to #101711)
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( Q ) "I prefer the term "Arsenal".

...YUP !!....

Vic :cool:
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-07 12:03 PM (#101747 - in reply to #101711)
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Never own more guitars than have interior wall space for hangers!

How's that for a rule of thumb?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-05-07 12:14 PM (#101748 - in reply to #101711)
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Originally posted by fillhixx:
Never own more guitars than have interior wall space for hangers! How's that for a rule of thumb?
Good for a start, but I've recently discovered that they also hang very conveniently off the ceiling as well.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-07 12:32 PM (#101749 - in reply to #101711)
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Bong! Doh! Chung! Doh! Krang! Doh! Jzzzt! Doh! Chong! Doh!
(the sound of walking through the music room.....)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-05-07 1:30 PM (#101750 - in reply to #101711)
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I'm with Al and Prof. Playing is therapy. I've still got a couple more walls in the "music room", but I'd have to move some exercise equipment that gets used less than the guitars do. SWMBO wants a smaller house and I'm afraid the music room will get left out in any move.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-05-07 2:48 PM (#101751 - in reply to #101711)
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I still have no idea what you guys are talking about.

This is a shot of one of my old storage areas at the studio in Maryland.

It's hard to tell in this picture, but most all the ones that are standing are stacked two deep. Yes they are all Ovations. Yes they all have guitars in them, and no that ain't all of 'em, only about two thirds (60ish).

http://www.baronaudio.com/images/guitars.jpg
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-07 3:12 PM (#101752 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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fillhixx, You'd love the music room here. When the dog barks they all echo it. Imagine 10 Nationals and 10 more acoustics all going on the same woof.
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cliff
Posted 2007-05-07 3:25 PM (#101753 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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What's REALLY cool is when y'play one of the Nationals at a fairly decent volume and y'start getting sympathetic resonance from some of the others . . . .
(but only when the sun's shining on 'em)
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-07 3:48 PM (#101754 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Okay, here's the plan.
We tune all CWK2's guitars to an open E. Jam some hillbilly/African/blues on a banjo, upright bass, and a hooter,

turn on the recorder and see what happens after the howling dogs calm down!

Musicaly, I mean.
and after we pry Cliff off the ceiling.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-05-07 7:53 PM (#101755 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Miles may be the only one who really has too many guitars. I just have a shirt that says a man can't have too many guitars. I have too many shirts.
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-07 9:05 PM (#101756 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Who gets to play the Hooters?
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beatlejuice53
Posted 2007-05-07 10:26 PM (#101757 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Miles' herd makes mine look rather small. I only have 59 (26 basses and 34 guitars). Yea, I know that adds up to 60. I have a doubleneck (guitar/bass)....it's a guitar and a bass but only counts as one. The wall hanger idea doesn't work too good for me. Eight of my "arsenal" are headless or headsless. Even though by most standards I have a rather large collection, i have never concidered myself a collector. It has to be something I really want, like, or just too good of a deal to pass up for me to buy something. If I buy a guitar or bass and don't like it, I don't keep it. Make any sense? Or should I still seek medical attention?
Bill
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Beggin
Posted 2007-05-07 10:46 PM (#101758 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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BeatleJ,

I think it may be too late for medical attention..however an open house to let us play them all might be appropriate.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-08 1:45 AM (#101759 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Originally posted by cwk2:
Who gets to play the Hooters?
Whoever has the warmest hands, usually.
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Grif
Posted 2007-05-08 1:52 AM (#101760 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Beatlejuice, anyone who can play a different guitar every week of the year, and still have 8 leftover, I think can call themselves a collector!

Wow!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-08 2:20 AM (#101761 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Obsessive Compulsive?
I just did the arithmetic...
I bought seven guitars in six months.

All since I since I started frequenting this board.

Well, I bought the 4861.
Then I visited here for advice.
The rest is History! And I\'m really thinking about THIS ONE! :p
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-08 11:02 AM (#101762 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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It's a wonderful thing, ain't it?
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-08 11:35 AM (#101763 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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I said God damn, God damn The Pusher man
Hoyt Axton
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an4340
Posted 2007-05-08 11:58 AM (#101764 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-05-08 12:11 PM (#101765 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Obsessive Compulsive?
I just did the arithmetic...
I bought seven guitars in six months.

All since I since I started frequenting this board.

Well, I bought the 4861.
Then I visited here for advice.
The rest is History! And I\'m really thinking about THIS ONE! :p
You'll notice they photoshoped or removed the Made in Korea/China/wherever sticker.


Manipulated photo (As is on website, except where I pointed out the manipulation)



Unmanipulated photo (enlarged from original off website)


I just don't want you to be duped into thinking it is a USA model.
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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-05-08 12:30 PM (#101766 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?
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BeatleJuice53 isn't a guitar collector.
He runs a shelter for homeless and wayward
guitars.....for the tax credit of course :)
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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-05-08 12:43 PM (#101767 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?
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Originally posted by Elliot Meldoy:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Obsessive Compulsive?
I just did the arithmetic...
I bought seven guitars in six months.

All since I since I started frequenting this board.

Well, I bought the 4861.
Then I visited here for advice.
The rest is History! And I\'m really thinking about THIS ONE! :p
You'll notice they photoshoped or removed the Made in Korea/China/wherever sticker.
It appears they also went out of their way to hide
the sticker inside with the model number and other
important information. (I used photshop to investigate, the sound holes are solid black, no shadowing as one would expect.)



Manipulated photo (As is on website, except where I pointed out the manipulation)



Unmanipulated photo (enlarged from original off website)


I just don't want you to be duped into thinking it is a USA model.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-08 10:26 PM (#101768 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Gee, and I thought Brother Bobby was supposed to be a stand-up guy!?!

First! THANK Y'ALL FOR THE WARNING.
I have a CC44, which is basically the same thing. I was just looking... Pretty wood, Op-Pro...

Now to the disappointment...
On one of the rear-view photos you can see the sticker. On the close-up it is missing. Add to that the blackout holes, and it do look like intentional deception.
Still, $638 ain't THAT bad for a Brand New Chinese Ultra...
So Why Lie?

I got my CC44 for $419, free shipping. And they just sent me $40 cuz I found a little crack in my case! [Yeah! Awesomely Nice Seller!] Oh yeah, it came with a case.
I am quite satisfied with my Celebrity(s), and Korean Balladeer. No sleaze involved.
When I got the CC, I looked at Black, Blue, Waterfall Bubinga, Bear Claw Maple and other fancy stuff... I just happened to be looking at that cuz it is Purdy! I just decided on the Natural to go along with the other two.

But that PhotoShop trick is pretty sleazy. :mad:
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-08 10:33 PM (#101769 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Beware,beware ,Brother Arthur.... :D

Vic
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-08 10:54 PM (#101770 - in reply to #101711)
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No no... My next guitar is probably a ways away.
A 1718, or something similar. Or an Old, Cheap USO Balladeer.

I'm just real disappointed by the Sleaze...
I read the fine print later, and noticed the "Five Year Warranty"!
Waydda minnut! My CC came with a five year warranty, and it's a Celebrity.
Then today I came home and read this thread.

[I have a REAL job! I can't play online at work!]
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dvd
Posted 2007-05-09 12:22 AM (#101771 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Good catch, Elliot. bummer. 'nuff said
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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-05-09 12:28 AM (#101772 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?
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I am on another forum, and we pride ourselves on
warning our fellow forum members on sleazy deals.
I guess I just got so used to looking for the scam.
anyway glad I could be of service.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-05-09 12:03 PM (#101773 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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"So Many Guitars, So Little Time"
With due diligence, wise selection, and proper care/storage, its better than money in the bank: besides, you get to play 'em whenever you want! Call 'em art, call 'em tools, call me crazy, I've been addicted for 40 years...

:eek:
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-09 12:21 PM (#101774 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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See what that JAZZY-Guy is Doing to us.... :)

Vic
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-09 10:57 PM (#101775 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?



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Music Mike... Remember:

A guitar will get you through times of no money
Better than money will get you through times of no guitar!

Or what that something else?
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Steve C
Posted 2007-05-12 8:05 PM (#101776 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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For me, I have 16 guitars. I guess any more than three, then your collecting. I find that guitars are like shoes...you would not attempt a basketball game in new black dress Florsheims...but it could be done. You would not want to attempt an Classical recital with a Telecaster...but it could be done. We all have more than one pair of shoes...all for different purposes. I find that I play somewhat different on each guitar I have. Could we survive on one guitar? Oh yeah, the great names always have: look at Ed Bickert, the Jazz great enjoying 50+ years on his Tele. Willie on his Martin "Trigger" and Paul on his Hofner Bass (although now it being a novelty). Few things are as enjoyable as playing my Rickenbacker for a whole week, then getting a mood swing to make me get into my Adamas II 12 for another week. I prefer to hang them all in my basement a la Smithsonian. This allows me to enjoy their looks (let's face it, not like trumpets, gutiars have character), have OTHERS enjoy their looks, and the fact that they are not in their cases...I play them. I am always on a mission to buy a guitar that I know would round-out the collection and offer me yet another avenue of playing character. My next purchase will be a 1983 Ovation Collector (yeah I know about the one on gbase right now) because each time I play one, something connects...I can't identify why. I do not consider that guitar all that good looking nor would we consider it to be a valuable piece...ever, but it is unlike anything else in my collection. Anyway, I'll post a collection of my guitar family when I can get them all together.
Steve
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Adamas II-12string-5 1988
Gibson Country Western 1974
Vantage Nylon Classical 1994
Lado Solo Bass 1981
Rickenbacker 360-6 Red 1991
Gibson Les Paul 25/50 Anniversary Black 1979
Fender Stratocaster Lake Placid (MIM) 1991
Fender Stratocaster "The Strat" White 1982
Fender Telecaster American Standard Cream 1987
Guild Starfire IV Natural 2001
Gretsch 6120 Setzer Orange 2004
Beltone Sunburst 1963
Teisco Dark Red 1965
Winston TearDrop Natural 1968
Daisy Rock Acoustic/Electric Pink (yeah I know)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-12 8:30 PM (#101777 - in reply to #101711)
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Daisy Rock Acoustic/Electric Pink (yeah I know)

Yo, Steve! Ya gotta get a Hello Kitty to go with that one!
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Beggin
Posted 2007-05-13 11:26 AM (#101778 - in reply to #101711)
Subject: Re: why collection?


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Old Man Arthur said:
A guitar will get you through times of no money
Better than money will get you through times of no guitar!

Or what that something else?
Yes, something else. :rolleyes:
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-13 12:12 PM (#101779 - in reply to #101711)
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Actually, that's pretty accurate.
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alpep
Posted 2007-05-13 1:42 PM (#101780 - in reply to #101711)
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when I used to mail out a flier I believe I put it this way

gear will get you by in times of no money better than money will get you by in times of no gear.
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saccaguea
Posted 2007-05-13 2:15 PM (#101781 - in reply to #101711)
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Elliot Meldoy thanks for pionting that out to us. I will look at the ebay ads differently from now on. I interested about your opinion about this one.


http://forums.vintageamps.com/viewtopic.php?t=62226
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Elliot Meldoy
Posted 2007-05-13 7:09 PM (#101782 - in reply to #101711)
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LOLOLOLOL

I saw that on the plexi as well :)
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