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Location: Chicago | Rapper Akon illustrates the essence of his art: how the "artist" relates to the "fan". A thing of beauty is a joy forever! Who needs guitars or "tonality"?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f20_1177010149 |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yeah, that's real nice..... |
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Location: big island | what a sad commentary on the state of human affairs. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Who's that guy think he is Iggy? Morrison? Mick?
Some guys have no respect for tradition...dry hump is no way to treat a groupy!
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Location: Flushing, MI | She all of 14, and he can get away with THAT?
It's sad. What's sadder is that I know people that would think that's cool, and would love it. The same people that say that I need to get with the modern times, and stop playing that old fogies music.
We're truly a hip hop nation, whether you like it or not. |
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Location: Orange County, California | :mad: Creep!! :mad: |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | By almost every states statutes and definitions, that video (if indeed the girl was 14) would stand up in court as child sexual molestation. :mad: :mad: :mad: |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Nasty - Patch is right - someone should go after that guy. |
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Location: Up North | Problem is, that would give the scumbag exactly what he is after, more free publicity!
We're living through a time where your fame is increased by how many laws you can break. (Paris Hilton, Martha Stewart, any number of gangster rappers) |
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Location: South of most, North of few | The end is near. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I noticed that one of the key words for it was "Trinidad." If this was in another country, there's not much anyone can do. If someone can verify it happened in the US, I'd love to know where and when. I'm pretty sure someone at the local child abuse prevention office would find a use for this link that was even more indignant than our posts. |
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Location: NJ | the fans killed at chicken at an alice cooper show
iggy pop would cut himself on stage
morrison alledgedly exposed himself in miami
janis drank from a bottle of southern comfort
bird coltrans miles etc were all heroin addicts
ansley dunbar alledgedly liked young girls
the mudshark incident
how many bands passed around joints on stage.
I am not saying that this behavior is correct I am just noticing that it is not the only type of outrageous behavior.
maybe we just target it more because it is rap and we don't like the music? |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | People (and I use that term loosely) will always try to "push the envelope."
They go outta their way to numb themselves to their own actions.
To avoid any semblance of Common Decency.
Then they get all bent outta shape when they don't get the Proper Respect!
[Yeah Al... It also annoys me cuz Rap Sux!
But it wouldn't happen at a Pink Floyd concert.] |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Music is like candy, first get rid of the rapper. |
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Location: Flushing, MI | He says he's sorry now...
He's sorry alright....
He\'s sorry |
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Location: closely held secret | "He also says his people tried to ensure that the club did not admit anyone under 18, but "that standard was not met."
Oh, good. He's got standards... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | FTBT |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I'm sorry, I have trouble with a bunch of aging rockers (which many of us are/were) being offended by the actions of a performer on stage.
Given the excesses of our own idols in their day {if vid phones had been around then, how many would there be of Mick Jagger screwing groupies (even as young as 14!) on his way off stage?}with Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll and an ethos of "Live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse" how can we (the royal we) get self-righteous enough to criticize the excesses of the next (plus 2) generation?
Oh. Wait. It's coming to me.........we got old.
And hypocritical.
Well, awright then. :rolleyes:
It was the best of times
It was the worst of times
It was just the times. |
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Location: Chicago | fillhixx is right! Absolutely. My reason for posting is the MUSIC ("music"?): I think 30 years of hip-hop is enough. 30 years of a genre with three themes: "I f***k you", "I kill you", "I'm superior to you (rhyme/money/chicks)". I would be willing to endure Akon or any other mutant if hehad a "Gimme Shelter" or "When the Music's Over" or "Close to the Edge" or "Birds of Fire" or "Fun House" or "Pearl" or... or ... Gotta go take my Geritol. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | 50 is the new 21 don'cha know!
I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! :p |
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Location: big island | then why call yourself "old man arthur"? |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I'm Not Old, Dammit!
Hey, when I was young(er), Disco Suct! Now Rap Sux.
And I will still agree with Al and Fillhixx...
The fact that I don't like Rap has alot to do with it.
Iggy Stooge rolling around in broken glass and inventing Stage-Diving was cool. Alice Cooper hanging himself was cool. The concept that Keith Richards could even stand on stage was cool. Ozzy is just an idiot, and he says that he never ate a doves head.
I'll admit it... Unless they are rapping about finding Jesus, or at least getting an education, anything the rappers do annoys me. :mad: |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | As bad as most rap is musically, I still think (OK...hope) most hip-hop performers would draw the line at dry-humping youthful strangers on stage!
The sad part is that this child is now forced to live with the consequences of her youthfully misplaced idolization. (And I don't just mean a video that has been widely circulated on the internet.) I've intervened with too many such individuals (male and female) who were suddenly shoved into such a perverted, full-blown perspective of adult sexuality. The truly tragic part is, despite the video, this event is still reasonably anonymous; which puts the child's family in the position of rectifying their daughter's experience in a healthful and recuperative fashion. Surprisingly, there are a lot of good, capable parents out there. I sure hope this girl's folks are up to the challenge.
Frankly, this child and her family need prayers as much as anyone else that this forum has so ably, and nobly, supported. |
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Location: SE Michigan | If there is a bright side to such a incident, it might be that the unfortunate girl, her friends, or other on-lookers might just realize what pigs some of these rappers are.
Also the girl should be grateful that humiliation and some rough handling was all that she suffered. Imagine if she had been foolish enough to accept an invitaion back stage or to a party after the show. Don't get me wrong, this guy is still a pig, but kids (especially girls) need to learn that the world is full of pigs.
As other's have commented, some of the rock stars from earlier generations were complete pigs as well, but often kids will not believe this until they see it with there own eyes.
I really hope the girl wasnt overly traumatized, but I'll bet that she wont be climbing up on stage at concerts any time soon, also hopefully her tastes for rap music will be somewhat diminished. |
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Location: Central Florida | Why isn't Al Sharpton all over this guy? I thought the "right" reverend Sharpton was going after rap and hip-hop "folks" (can't bring myself to call them artists). |
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Location: NJ | It'll never happen.
Sharpton going after the cRap/HipHop Community would be like committing Political Suicide.
It'd be like Bush going after BigOil, or Hillary going after SensibleShoes . . .
What I can never figure out is, for someone who "marches" at the drop of a hat, Sharpton REMAINS the FatBastid that he IS . . . |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Hypocritical fat bastard. Selfserving hypocritical fat bastard, wait, are we talking Sharpton or Jackson? Never mind, that's getting political, forgetit.
Fillhixx, you're right, we should be tolerant of wild behavior. It's just the f@cking noise that goes on with the behavior these days....... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | The joke's on the rapper though, that chick was a she-male. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by cwk2:
Fillhixx, you're right, ....... [/QB] I'm so right, I'm left!
Doesn't mean I like it, either the performance OR Rap, I just have trouble getting all self-righteous about my dislike. I've said it before; Rap fulfills the first law of Rock 'n' Roll. Piss off your parents!
Dumb stage behaviour?
A local rock band (most of them, married with children) would give a free t-shirt to any female who would get up on stage and put it on. Untold dozens climbed on stage to rip off their top and bra, waggle for the crowd, and put the t-shirt on.
It's just a matter of degree. |
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Location: Up North | I don't think the girl expected the 'dry hump' performance was part of getting up onstage.
But you never know? |
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Location: Chicago | OK OK. So now the BIG QUESTION: What model and year OVATION must Akon hold on the cover of Time, People, and Newsweek etc. to announce his "kinder, gentler" Cat-Stevens phase? |
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Location: Up North | Josh White Re-issue |
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Location: PDX | Tolerance my ass. The sexual exploitation of a 14 year old girl is WRONG. And i don't care who does it. Evil exists and must be spoken of as evil, not in euphemism.
As George Orwell showed, unless we call a thing what
it is, we can neither think about it clearly nor oppose it.
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Location: Chicago | Just wondering, does any have TABs or sheet music for the Akon tune featured on LiveLeak? What's the key? I think the time is, like, .... minimum ten years. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I really can't beleive that anyone can defend or justify behavior like that, blowing it of as being tolerant or "artistic license". Things like this are just evidence of the moral decline of this nation and the world in general. What would you think if that was your daughter up there. As I said before, the end is near. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Here's your si....., I mean sandwich board then.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Today's Perspective, from Today's Funny-pages...
Student to Music Teacher: "Mr Taylor, you make us listen to all that old Jazz and Blues and stuff. Why don't you like New Music? Like Hip-Hop? And Rap?"
Music Teacher: "I have a simple way of deciding what music I listen to... If I cannot whistle along with the song, I don't like it!"
[Oh, Sorry. They don't teach music in school anymore] |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Well, this did take place in trinidad where they dance the "wine".
I remember the first time I saw it in the bahamas at a local club in elethera, I said what the f@ck, they rub uglies! |
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Location: Flushing, MI | Tolerance my ass. The sexual exploitation of a 14 year old girl is WRONG. And i don't care who does it. DING DING DING DING DING DING DING........
WE HAVE A WINNER!
Good answer my friend. |
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beauty & artistry of RAP!