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Location: NJ | I closed a thread tonight and I am not sure if I should have done it or not. But there seemed to be enough question about it for me to shut it down.
The suspicious part to me was the opening of multiple threads to accomplish the same goal. Why not just keep the original one going?
The bottom line is that this community has been more than generous to many members. some individuals have gone over and above the call of duty and I have told them so in person or on the phone. I have personally participated in some of these requests and have helped to supply gear or whatever.
We are all adults. if you want to contribute do so, BUT also be aware that this is the internet and scam artists are out there. If is smells like a llama it probably is a llama.
With that said I would not object to anyone wanting to help someone out by selling instruments thier instruments and listing them on the site. When it comes to monetary donations there I feel you have to use your better judgement and make your own decisions.
We are a rather tight knit unified group of people We all play Ovation and Adamas guitars, that makes us outcasts from the start. One of "US" that needs help will certainly tug at our heartstrings. But again use your judgement, if you cannot get enough information or do not feel you have the proper information to participate in something of this nature DON'T DO IT.
I have no clue if the latest solicitation was legit or not. The bottom line is ultimately it does not belong here. Many of our membbers belong to their own civic groups, religious organizations charitable organizations etc. and I am positive they do their own good works in the community.
thanks
and sorry for being so long winded
al
edited to add... SEVERAL of the people we helped on this site no longer participate or participate on a merely peripheral basis... think about that!!! |
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Location: closely held secret | One of the longest coherent posts you've ever made, Al.
Also very well stated. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | My comments are at the bottom of the first one.
As far as I'm concerned you did the right thing. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Thanx Al... Kinda dismayed that you had to deal with that...
But I GOTTA ask... What Does a Llama smell like? :confused:
[The first sentence was quite sincere. The second... :rolleyes: ] |
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Location: Michigan | Al , you did the right thing . GWB |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Right thing. ask once. everyone makes their own choices.
(very similar to real life, but it happens in an unreal world.) |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
What Does a Llama smell like? Very similar to an Alpaca But the alpaca is much cuter and often douses strawberry essence behind its ears. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | It depends if its coming at you or walking away. I missed the initial whatever because I've been trying something new... playing my guitars or working in the shop.
If anyone feels sorry for me send guitar parts.
Or wood. |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | Watch out for them thar Llamas, they spit atcha.
Al, you did the right thing.
Regardless of any financial crunch, I wouldn't even ask you guys to buy a guitar for more than it's really worth.
But ask for money??????
NO, no, no, no no,no, nnooo.
I freaked when I saw how you all flaunt your posessions so proudly.
My studio was robbed.
Make sure you have alarms and extra insurance on everything.
Those people suck.
If they can't suck you dry, then they'll suck your studio out.
I'm still not over it.
Deep breath, count to ten...
GIVE NOTHING TO ANYONE, because once you do, they think you owe them.
I have vented.
It was wonderful. |
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Location: south east Michigan | I know it was a tough call for you Al.
But it feels like the right choice. |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | It WAS the right choice.
Give anonymously to the United way or Salvation Army and certainly to PBS substations.
I will never again give to someone who thinks I have so much it is now my responsibility to keep on giving to the point of having equal to or less than they. |
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO | SEVERAL of the people we helped on this site no longer participate or participate on a merely peripheral basis... think about that!!! [/QB]
Smart move Al. Better safe than sorry. |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | If anyone feels sorry for me send guitar parts.
Or wood. [/QB]
Hey, now that you mention it, I'd like an old Fender PA-100 tube PA with dual stacks of 4-10" cones.
Traded that off and was soooo sorry.
Don't you feel sorry for me?
Gimmee, gimmee, gimee. |
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO | Ok. What is the address you want it sent to? |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | What is a 'guea" and do I really need a sacc of it?
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Location: ranson,wva | Originally posted by MWoody:
If anyone feels sorry for me send guitar parts.
Or wood. mike ive got about 25 lbs of mahog venneer!!! i had 50lbs of it. i sold a bunch and just sent chris a bunch of it..... how much you want!!!!!!!!! jason |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | Okay, send a self-addressed stamped envelope with an undisclosed amount of cash to....
And you TOO can Have YOUR VERY OWN SACK O JAWEEYA
plus shipping and handling |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | I used to know a guy...
who dumpster dove for the best veneers in town.
It was in Portland, OR. He really showed me the town!!!
I'm half-kidding.
This guy got Gerber knives and multi-plier parts from the Gerber factory dumpster, the finest veneers left over from the manufacture of large commercial art and funiture and hand-made tiles from Italy left over from State buildings.
You can find the neatest things without ever asking for anything.. |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | Originally posted by saccaguea:
Ok. What is the address you want it sent to? I hope you know I was jus' pokin' fun.
I do so hope you can take it and toss it back.
Don't buy it, because it was a scam!
It wanted to take you for all was ba-loomin worth...
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Location: Upper Left USA | As a Rigger Apprentice in a Shipyard I got the garbage detail quite often. My motto was "At your disposal"!
Had a pretty interesting work wardrobe going on when the Aircraft Carriers were in...
Jason - thanks but I'm good. |
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Location: ranson,wva | damn i cant give this stuff away..lol maybe ill cover a bare tele body with it and do the sides in koa venneer.......jason |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | My dad used to work at a landfill in Staten Island and he used to bring home all sorts of cool stuff.
THe best was stuff that was seized and dumped - tons of Rolexx watches, blank cassettes, cases of Heinekin. And lots of comic books in great shape. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I spent one day working at the dump with a buddy decades ago. Came home with a complete set of expensive china, (including gravy boat and platter) a radio, and a couple of other things I forget.
Lost the china in a breakup (or was she throwing it at me? It's so long ago.) but the radio worked for decades. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Maybe not the same thing,but anyway...
An ad.in the paper read " If you want to get rich .than send 20 bucks to..xxx...with a selfadressed/stamped envelope " ...about 2000 people did...the guy did write back..he wrote.." Do Like Me "....and that was Legal !! :)
( It Happened,No Joke !! )
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Location: Up North | I think it's time to let this subject go, someone tried to do some good here, granted he might have broke OFC policy, but I don't think he should be compared with some sleazy pyramid scheme. |
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO | The truth Grif is that you do Not know. I suppose you don't believe in Antivirus 0r Antispyware software either. Afterall we shouldn't even SUGGEST there might be a need for it. Why not just post your credit card numbers online? |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | ( Q Griff ) "I think it's time to let this subject go, someone tried to do some good here, granted he might have broke OFC policy, but I don't think he should be compared with some sleazy pyramid scheme"
Look Griff,that was a a very Kind and Warmhearted post,...but they went so sugar-sweet about it...and saying ..."If you would like to send the money directly to him I can get his address but he may be losing his home soon. If you like you could send it to me via paypal and I would send him a lump sum and I would absorb the paypal fees"....
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/cgi-bin/ubb/non-cgi/ultimatebb.php?ub...
Now, I can smell that all the way overhere..
I think ALPEP`s Warning is an Important One,for it Could/Might/Probably , happen again,there Are Organizations !!( Please Griff,I do NOT mean to be Condescending ) No Offence Meant :)
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | This is SOOOOO over people.
And it's harshing my A.D.D...can we please move on to....
.....I'm sorry, you were saying? |
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Location: NJ | Really . . .
DROP the f@*kin' thing already. |
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Location: closely held secret | Please. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Oh come on,hut..hut..hut.. :)
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | I never agreed in personal attacks on strangers. You can believe whatever you wish. Guess what. So can I. If I'm not criticizing your beliefs then you shouldn't tread on mine. Thanks! God bless you all. Michael Joseph Kramer |
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| Good response Al |
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Location: CT | I missed the whole thing. Someone fill me in. ...on second thought don't. |
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Location: NJ | y'better off NOT . . . |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I warned you I'd clear this thread if you didn't just walk away!
You were warned. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | I don't think we're outcasts by playing Ovation or Adamas guitars.
I think we just like a particular brand.
No different from Martin, Guild, Gibson, or Taylor players.
If other don't like us because we play hi tech guitar, it reflects on them; not on us.
There are plenty on AAA grade big time acts who use Ovation USA or Adamas guitars. I ran the West Hartford
Agora Ballroom for 3 years. (5000 seat concert hall) I saw more Ovations come through than other brand except possibly Martin.
(they had guitar techs to take care of the Martins)
The only time got I any flax from people it was never a pro player, just immature or snotty amature players.
Look at it this way, few people are more associated with wood acoustic guitars than Johnny Cash. I have photos in a bio book him playing a deep no cut away Elite on stage.
He also played an Elite when he was inducted in the R&R hall of fame.
That pretty good company in my kneck of the woods. |
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Location: ranson,wva | pez,id like to see the photos of cash playing a elite. i could have swore that i seen him playing a black non cut legend somewhere before...jason |
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Location: Chapin SC | sac a what? |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Jason,
I emailed you the pict of Johnny playing the Elite.
I did not want to break the spine to get the whole picture.
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 1992
Little Richard and Kieth Richards also in the picture.
Maybe you can upload it to the board.
I could not figure out how to do it.
On stage often switched up Guitars alot.
He played 1960s Fender USA acoustics
(Kingsman & Newporters)
Guild D-60, Takamine not sure which model,
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Location: ranson,wva | paul,its uploading now. i gotta convert it to photobucket then ill put it in a new thread...thanks jason |
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| Hey this may be way outta line but did anyone figure out Heather44dd `s email??? i could use a Paris Hilton wannabee for the weekend???
Unless she is a dude then nevermind!!!
Sorry Al!!! forgive me.. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | It could be that shopping for a (Paris-like) date is getting to be more like looking for the perfect family pet...
...try the pound! They've had their shots and they seem to pretty motivated to get out of there!
You might wanna check in with Danny Bonaduce as well! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I don't know her email address but Heather lives in Chicago. I'm here for the week and I definately saw her walking by last night as I was out to dinner.
For those Chicagoians here, I ate at a place called Carmine's on Rush and Oak Sts? Do you know the place? Fabulous. The Chicago Blues Festival was last weekend. I arrived on Monday. Great timing.
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Location: Tennessee | I'm here in LA. There are clones of Heather everywhere out here. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Bob, th0se are clones. I saw the REAL thing. I mean things.
Dave |
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Location: Tennessee | Stepford Heathers rule. |
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Isn't it time for this thread to loose the place at the top of the list and fall to the archives with all the rest? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | second |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | question on the motion? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Depends. Is there a motion on the question? |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | No Questions! Third, and please close or let die. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | As several have asked.. this thread is closed. |
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