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I just got done driving 8 plus hours
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Location: France | Great news and nice teasing Al.
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Location: Angoulême - France | I join my Frenchy friends to congrat you Al : we in France really love those guitars too !!! And we're waiting for pics right now !!! Bravo !!!!!! |
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Location: Midland, MI | But, stupid.
I miss Laugh-In. And the Smothers brothers. And Benny Hill. And...
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by cruster:
How late is he going to sleep in, anyway? :D Just till his newly acquired slot-head says, "Gotta go, ' have an important meeting" |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by cruster:
I miss Laugh-In. And the Smothers brothers. And Benny Hill. And... And Flip Wilson. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Guys, don't fall for this for a minute. It's a classic Al Bait & Switch Routine. "I found a slothead, but it's not for sale. HOWEVER, I'd be happy to custom order you a replica. Let me jot down your credit card number and I'll get right back to you..."
It would be really cool if Al uncovered one. Always interesting to know where they all ended up after these years of mystery. I think the list Bill posted awhile back was pretty accurate.
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by FlySig:
And Flip Wilson. How could I forget Flip Wilson? Or Geraldine? Or the "Church of What's Happening Now?"
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Location: NJ | well as many of you know I made it out to Ohio for the summer show. Guitar shows in general have been on the decline since the advent of e bay. I still go to a few to press the flesh and hang out (I am a living legend in Columbus) and see my midwestern buddies even though they still insist on calling SODA, "pop". Pop was my father.
So a guy comes up to me and starts to finger the ne Ultra I brought along with me and asks if I know anything about Ovations. Me, wearing my "Ovation fan club" t shirt replies "sure a little" and gets ready for some annoying.
he started using words like pre production, pre tooling, and serial number 3 and Adamas and I was skeptical. I asked if he guitar was a slot head and he said it was. He insisted it was serial number 3 and I called him on it. I told him it could NOT be 0003 and that was that. He then explained that according to the chart he read it was the third guitar that got into production and he was not sure of the s/n because it was a mile long.
great, here is my card take some pics e mail it to me I would LOVE to see it. well he explained he only lived a mile away and he would go home and bring it to show me.
when he showed up with a brown case WITH SPARKLE ON THE OUTSIDE, my heart started to race. I threw open the latched to reveal a -2 slothead I looked in the soundhole to discover it was truely 0029.
I sat there in disbelief playing the guitar with the biggest grin you have ever seen on my face. I dragged the guitar out into the hallway took some pics and the owner told me the story.
he is a flatpicker and loves martins but was infactuated with the adamas guitars when they came outbut at 2500 he could not afford one. In 1980 he walked into a local music show saw the same guitar he lusted over but now on consignment for $650 and he rushed to the bank got the money and bought it. He has owned it ever since. At one point he loaned to a girlfriend who worn out the cowboy frets took a chunk out of the epaulet and some chunks out of the case.
I have exact details of the story written down and will let them out later. Pics will come after I find my camera and open up photoshop and resize them so I can post them. I use my digital camera on the lowest settings and it is still too small to just upload a pic UUUUUURRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!.
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Location: France | Wow, Great story Al. Thanks for sharing.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Did you explain that all original Slotheads come with a transferrable lifetime warrantee - as long as the OFC gets to play it in CT every (date TBD)? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Looking forward to the pic's; great story Al, thanks! :eek: |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | My new version of finding an early Harley or Porsche Speedster in a barn. Wow. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Al..
I'm sure there are other ways but one way to re-size a picture is to e-mail it to yourself and choose the "make picture smaller" option when it pops up.
It may not be the geek way to get-er-done but it gets-er-done. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I love stories like this! |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Let's hear more and see the pics Al. Just a needle in the haystack, eh! |
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Location: Tennessee | Al,
Tell him I'll give him twice what he paid for it ... case included. |
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Location: SoCal | Thanks for sharing Al!
There is an image resizer in Microsoft PowerToys for Windows XP. Just click on ImageResizer.exe on the right side of the screen to install the utility. The image resizer adds into the right-click menu. It appears to be the same utility email uses. It\'s nice to have it available all the time. It works on one or as many images that are selected. The default settings create a new resized image leaving the original untouched. Clicking on the Advanced Button gets you a Custom Size option, etc. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Well PHOOOEY!!!! I really really miss going to that show. One of the EXTREMELY FEW things I actually miss from this east coast. Now this!!!
I used to seek out the "cool find" of the show, but this one gives Al the ALL-TIME "cool find" at the Ohio show. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Nice Story Al!
Let me know this guy's name so I can put him on my somewhat sorta official list of where the slutheads are.
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Location: NJ | pictures?? . . . |
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Location: NJ | oops forgot I was headed to atlantic city yesterday for our anniversary.
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Location: NJ | ". . atlantic city yesterday for our anniversary . ."
You ARE a Hopeless Romantic . . . . |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by cliff:
". . atlantic city yesterday for our anniversary . ."
You ARE a Hopeless Romantic . . . . The key words . . . "I forgot . . . " In the face of discovering an all but lost original slothead, I can imagine. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Just a matter of priorities. My wife would never forget our anniversary, but fortunately she forgot that she already got me 2 anniversary guitars to commemorate our 30th, the Ute and the 30th CL. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by cliff:
". . atlantic city yesterday for our anniversary . ."
You ARE a Hopeless Romantic . . . . i could have counted the trip to the ohio guitar show for the anniversary.... |
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Location: Paris/France | Wahooooooo!!!
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Location: NJ | wow.
SHE's seen some miles! . . . looks good, tho . . .
That's an odd location for the label tho, no??
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Location: Upper Left USA | Note to Al: Have a patient, knowledgable digital Photographer (Asian preferred) host a "How to take and Post Guitar Pics" class at OFC 08.
Al's attendance is MANDATORY.
Nice find. Where is the owner? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Al, please tell me, this is real? AND that you didn't just "StoneWash" a certain #47RI you had laying about...??? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I think the term is "stressed".
Hmmm, must read that Dorian Grey novel again... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ... "Claptonizing"
(Dorian Grey... heheh. Good one, Woody) |
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Location: NJ | (So far,)this one looks t'be the "Trigger" of the original SlotHeads . . . |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I sure hope the OFC guitar neck and fretboard ages as nicely as this one (and other originals I've seen) has. My next of kin will appreciate it. |
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Location: NJ | Well, . . I was thinking of Willie Nelson's guitar, but good ol' "Terri" could apply as well . . . |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Looks in pretty good shape though. Take some real heavy picks to wear through a grafite top! |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by cwk2:
Take some real heavy picks to wear through a grafite top! (!$>..[{ .parsing error..}]) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Have you dropped your "R"s from listen to Temp?? |
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Location: Midland, MI | Looks like the top is pretty worn by the pickguard. I'll have to guess at general condition based on that, so...take $500 for it? I'll cover shipping and PayPal fees! :p
That's a pretty cool find, Al. Thanks for sharing the story and the pictures! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | 35 CWK2 1689 -2 Slothead Red, wideneck
36 CWK2 1189 -7 Slothead Beige acoustic wideneck
42 fugot 1687 -8 Slothead Blue
43 Elginacres 1687 -8 Slothead Blue
45 cholloway 1687 -8 Slothead Blue
53 CWK2 1187 -7 Slothead Beige acoustic
54 Cliff 1187 -8 Slothead Blue acoustic
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Al, please tell me, this is real? AND that you didn't just "StoneWash" a certain #47RI you had laying about...??? Unless I'm seeing things, this one's got "knobs," which would make it pretty hard to swap out for a 47RI. Awesome find, Al. I assume it sounds as nice as it looks? (dumb question :rolleyes: ) |
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Location: SoCal | I believe that Glen Campbell still has #27 and while I won't mention names, it's kind of an open secret where #41 and #50 are. Somebody with ownership knowledge should speak up regarding them..... like the person owning each? |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I believe that Glen Campbell still has #27 and while I won't mention names, it's kind of an open secret where #41 and #50 are. Somebody with ownership knowledge should speak up regarding them..... like the person owning each? I will admit that I do not own #41. |
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Location: GA USA | But given that some are known but not broadcasted, are over half really unaccounted for? |
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Location: SoCal | There are going to be some which are still in the collections of those famous people who had them originally. But there are a number of them who's whereabouts will never be known.
Heck, there was one that was out here in a pawnshop, in a display case. It belonged to the owner, and there was one helluva story about the owner and what happened..... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think the location of 16 of the originals is knows:
29 known
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Location: SoCal | Jerome has pics of #48 on his webpage. Wonder where he got them and who owns that guitar? |
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Great pictures!
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Location: Paris/France | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Jerome has pics of #48 on his webpage. Wonder where he got them and who owns that guitar? If I'm right, these pics came from Elias more than 2 years ago.
I don't know who owns that guitar now... :(
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Pretty good list.
I didn't have 48 as known or 50
I thought 34 was out in San Diego and that 46 was with Art Milano who was the original dealer of these in Az
It will be fun to see if 28 ever turns up. That one was stolen from Cat Litter and we made him another. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | You're right 46 last I new was still with Milano. I think his son in TX had it. It's tough to track the old man down anymore because he sold the store, even though it still carries his name.
I believe 41 and 50 are owned by the same dude.
Anyone notice on the list in the reference section that the actual delivery dates of the slotheads are not in sequential order of the serial numbers? Bill, did some just take longer to build than others?
I have a semi-detailed list in excel format. We should keep it active and maybe Miles can link it to this page, like he did for the decoder. It's buried in my website somewhere, I'll make a link when I get home Friday. Jerome could also add it to his site where he has photos of the originals.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | This just gets better and better... :eek:
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
This just gets better and better... Let's hope that trend continues. |
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#35 is on the left, #54 on the right, and #47 in the middle . . . |
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Location: NJ | Are y'sure that the dates on the list don't reflect the dates they were actually SOLD???
I know that mine was in Ackerman's WAY before March of '78.
I'll hafta' check the original receipt . . . |
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Not too shabby!! |
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Location: Tennessee | I had a chance to play both 41 and 50 a couple of weeks back. They are awesome guitars ... but different from each other -- in good ways. |
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Location: SoCal | Ah ha! Playadamas finally steps up and admits that he owns 41 and 50. The truth is finally out!
Now who the hell is playadamas?
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Location: NJ | ". . Clifford, why do you look so miserable in the picture? . ."
It's my nature.
Besides, the drinks w/lunch had worn off by then, and the drinks with dinner were yet to come . . .
". . They are awesome guitars ... but different from each other -- in good ways . ."
They're pretty much ALL "different from each other" . . . pretty much like a REALLY good batch of cookies. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Never thought I would use the word "patina" when discussing a guitar but, that one has definite patina. Very cool.
Al, isn't it great to be, once in a while, in the right place at the right time!
And, I believe Cliffs reference to Trigger is right on.
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | I thought it was determined a while back that Johnny Hallyday still had #39... or not! |
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Location: SoCal | He did have it. Nobody knows if he currently has it. In reality, the same could be said about Glen Campbell, Nancy Wilson, and Roy Clark. |
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Location: NJ | . . or Cat Stevens & Jim Messina.
Wasn't there something posted a while ago (by Al or someone?) regarding Neil Diamond and his?? . . . |
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Location: Germany | Does somebody know the story and # of this "golden slothead"?
I have a bunch of pictures of that guitar but can't remember from which site I've copied them.
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I BELIEVE that it's really "beige", but it has a VERY heavy treatment of gold glitter, making it appear gold in the right light. |
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Location: SoCal | That's the color that Bobbo wanted for the OFC'er.
Temp, while you're digging around, see if you can find out the story regarding the color of JJW's slothead. |
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Location: Scotland | From memory it was white or a very pale beige with almost no bursting. Al has the pics now and I think I gave him the 35mm negatives also, so I can't check. It might be worth checking youtube for JJW clips. He toured with that guitar in the UK in 86 with Guy Clark and they did at least 1 national TV appearance. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
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Location: big island | cliff,
the label plate on this gold one is also in the same location as the one al just discovered (#29) that you were inquiring about. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
That's the color that Bobbo wanted for the OFC'er. Glad Bobbo didn't get his way. |
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Location: Paris/France | Tom and I were talking on the phone about this guitar today.
I've had pics from Elias but I don't know the serial.
Could it be #38 ???
MORE PICS HERE!!
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | The pics showing the neck heel and the 13th fret on the goldtop suggest there may have been a possible repair on this guitar. The pics show a possible breakage line about midway up the neck heel, and the 13th fret shows what could possibly be a couple of plugged holes. Could be my imagination. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
What!?! Oh ... maybe it's the same color as your son-in-law's ( ;) ) VW bus. :cool: [/QB]
And they say lawyers are ruthless. That was a shot through the heart. Especially since she wants to leave the house before the guitar arrives so they can take the VW in to the shop. |
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| The pics showing the neck heel and the 13th fret on the goldtop suggest there may have been a possible repair on this guitar. The pics show a possible breakage line about midway up the neck heel, and the 13th fret shows what could possibly be a couple of plugged holes. Could be my imagination. Can we ask Elias? Is he a member? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Laniki wrote: the label plate on this gold one is also in the same location as the one al just discovered (#29) that you were inquiring about.
If I remember correctly (I spent quite a while with this guitar at the tour) #47 has it in the same place as well: I have pic's although not very good...I've since learned the secret..
Blessings... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | The guitar has been repaired. The plugs in the fretboard cover screw heads, if I remember correctly. I can't remember tho, if it was a neck heal break or fretboard lifting. |
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Location: NJ | I always thought the labels went up by the epaulets . . .
But whaddo I know?? . . . mine didn't even come with a label.
Least I got a letter from Beal es'plainin' why . . . |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Originally posted by MWoody:
Note to Al: Have a patient, knowledgable digital Photographer (Asian preferred) host a "How to take and Post Guitar Pics" class at OFC 08.
Al's attendance is MANDATORY.
Nice find. Where is the owner? I'll tell him when I find him. As for me I'm still learning about digital vs film. White balance, exposure compensation, etc. I haven't taken enough pictures of guitars to be any good at it. I think Tupperware's pictures are the best one's I have seen. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I'd guess a fingerboard lifting repair.
They all had add on heels.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | wow |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by giuseppe:
I checked the directory. He is not a member of this forum. I believe he now goes by a variation of the name "Joseph" |
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Location: Germany | Hey Elias (or modified Joseph), do you still own this extra sparkle slothead?
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Location: CT | I like the gold. It almost looks like a spruce top, not like a smurf (although I like the blue as well). |
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Location: Colorado | Around the time of the Slothead reunion I was in touch with Jim Messina...he confirmed with me he no longer owned his original slothead...and had no idea who had it... |
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Location: Colorado | Cliff's descriptions are right on track - all are different in many ways - and all are very good...and IMHO, all have stood the test of time very well...they've held up better than my playing!
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Location: SoCal | You know Mark, that brings up an interesting point. The original slotheads have held up very very well. 30 years old, most of them played a lot, and all that we've seen, are in good shape. It's a testiment to Ovation that they were built so well... |
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Location: Colorado | Also, around the time of the SH reunion, I was in touch with Nancy Wilson, she confirmed she had had two - and still had one of them...in storage! Records I saw at the mothership indicated she only got one - but she said something about swapping one out - and Nick confirmed at the reunion - this occasionally happened...there is about 3 months difference in producion dates between 43 and 44...could account for this....Sam has pics I believe of her with 44....watch YouTube videos of her on slotheads - there seem to be differences in the epalauts on various videos. Ahhhh..the mystery of it all - it adds to the fun. 43 - when I originally got it - the nut had been recut - to severely narrow the string spacing...something she is known to do...she has tiny hands....the fun one would be if the Cat Stevens (Litter according to Bill)original ever shows up. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I just love this...it just gets better and better...someone should probably make a movie...got popcorn? :D
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Location: SoCal | Jeez, I'd love to be in touch with Nancy Wilson.... |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Jeez, I'd love to be in touch with Nancy Wilson.... ...OH,never mind, you said "be in touch". Mis-read...me bad! :) |
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| Hello Mark before I found this site I found your web site! I am still amazed at how many of these Slotheads you have had through the years. Facinating. I could not go the price you had on the one up at that time around 4.5 years ago now but I have ended up finding some Adamas 1's that have filled the bill so far and this nutty group of enthusiasts.
Good to hear from you I rarly see you posting in here.
What do you think of the slothead repro's....in general??
And I am looking very hard to find a Baritone Adamas 1 you wouldn't happen to have a line on one of these rare birds for sale anywhere wouldja?
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Location: SoCal | Randy, what website of Mark's are you talking about? |
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| Elias; or whom ever he is at this point has signed his posts as Mark?? I am speaking of Elias's web site where he from time to time has Admas's for sale.
I will see if I can find it again and post a link.
We spoke back when I first decided to buy an Adamas like I remembered and wanted back when I was 17 I called him more than once and I could have owned one of these original Slotheads but as usual even though the price was not quite what they are worth now it was out of my league.
He is a wealth of knowledge on these Slotheads.
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| The photo in the previous posts about the gold/beige slothead are certainly the one that Elias had for sale a while back. I am now unsure if his site is still runnning perhaps it is only when he has a few Adamas guitars for sale that it is up and going.
I am very confused now anyway I found some very negative posts on the web from elias, while doing a search for his site, concerning a predominant member in here and I am not sure if this was the decent thing to do to anyone for any reason.
Anyway, with that said,we are all nuts about Ovations and for me their flagship Adamas line is news no matter the story behind the personal shit.
Here's all I can find right now.
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Location: NJ | nothing to be confused about.
ask me anything you want to know. I have never hid behind any false e mail addresses or false identities.
my e mail has been the same since the early 90's.
I don't have any false identities because I am too busy to keep them straight. |
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Location: Colorado | NorthCountry: You must have me confused with someone who has a web site...Or I am really confused...I hope Al will attest to you 100% I am not Elias - whoever that is... I think Cliff, Fugot, ProfessorBB,CWK2, PlayAdamas, Samova, even Stephent28 (banned I think)will also attest I am not Elias. Nor have I ever met the person you are refering to. Of this I know -Al's a cool dude (I digress) I own SH #43, I got it in a sordid tale in a store in Smyrna Georgia while looking for a 1537 - quite a while ago (1985)...it was an integral part of over 2000 Up With People Shows...then hundreds of pit orchesra shows over the years....it took the work of Darren and CWK2 at the mothership to determine its actual serial number...I made a small living with it...I even...oh my gosh...modified the electronics...for which Tim gave me the inimitable moniker of "Joey Mengele". But it made it cleaner and better in its electronic sound. Curious as it may sound - this was a tool for me - not a beloved family member. It still plays well - even if I don't. All the other stuff about #43's history is a lot of connect the dots...without all the dots - ergo - the full picture not really formed...heck Bill thinks he owned it for while. I've played the Re-issues - and think they are stunning in their sound...This particular instrument shines with its individual note definition - and ability to cut through orchestral mixes...for anything more technical - ask Cliff - he saw the Martinesque wave forms on the scope in Conn.....I have not heard an OFC quitar yet - but I am guessing it is stunning too...I'm hoping that the OFC guitar in Denver and #43 will spend some time together soon...it will be a fun A/B. BTW - I like #43 - and there are others made by other luthiers I like too...
If the OFC ever clims up to #43 in their issue...well then I have a dilemma ....
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Location: SoCal | "even Stephent28 (banned I think)"
I have been told that Stephen wasn't restricted from posting...may have been a misunderstanding but not banned. |
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Location: Colorado | Oh sorry Stephen.... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | aaahhh...the plot thickens...pass the popcorn please...
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Location: NJ | elgin acres is a good guy.
even if he did play with "up for people".
not the persona with dual personalities |
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| Assuming there's only one Elias G Argyris he's not hard to find. He has about a million hits on google for his academic papers and a couple related to Ovation/Adamas guitars. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by elginacres:
It still plays well - even if I don't. Don't listen to Mark on this point. I've heard him play. Anybody who knocked out 200 shows in an orchestra pit knows how to play, no matter how long long ago it may have been. And yes, Mark, we need to get together and see how SH #45 and OFC #5 compare. I used it at last night's rehearsal and need to put a lot more hours on it. |
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| I never mentioned Al.....by the way......my god how things snowball in here.......Well now I obviously made a mistake in taking your post as one from this guy. Whoops........I knew I caused some confusion so I Thought I made it fairly clear with my posted link about whom I was speaking of? If it's not clear the name and other information is in the link I posted open it up and take a look.
No one has any need to attest to anything. If your name is not Elias then my postings do not apply. Sorry Elginacres...........
I only mentioned this guy because I thought he was the same I guy I talked with a while ago. Also thought he was just another knowledgable enthusiast like some of you guy's and had owned a few of these slotheads.
Did not know anything about the rest of this personal fiasco until I went searching for his web site.
And that little web rant I found(that I will say no more about)is way unprofessional and it shows a certain weakness of character to me.
Are we all good?
As for this guitar it's not my favorite color but it is so unusual it is a real one of a kind. Good luck with the one your after Al.
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | I'd like to know more about the original owner of #45 (Ron Pough) and according to the reference he also had #31.
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Location: NJ | First of all, you(and "the List") have Ron's name spelled wrong (and I don't really wanna put it out here on a private forum without his permission).
Now, MY list shows him as having(had) #30(not#31), but I could be wrong.
I seem to remember him contacting cwk2 a WHILE back, regarding advice on market value as he was contemplating selling. Bill hooked us up and we had a brief e-mail exchange. Nice guy. I vaguely remember something about him being a professional "cowboy singer" out SanDiego way, or something like that. I don't remember if he "sold" or not, but he was researching an asking price. I suggested the $10K BallPark (and I think Beal might've done the same) . . . |
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Location: NJ | Re-thinking all of this, I might even have THIS wrong (except for Ron's name being mis-spelled) . . .
Ron's(now yours) # 45 came from Ackerman's, as did my #54. #42(Steve Voss) ALSO came from Ackerman's (and his name was ALSO mis-spelled).
I'm running on two hours of sleep after a solo gig last night, and having a hard time recalling if Ron or Steve was the "singing cowboy" from SanDiego . . .
Do YOU remember, Beal??? . . .
ACTUALLY;
I think that the absolute EASIEST way t'keep an accurate track of all this information is for Witko t'buy a SlotHead, . . . cuz you KNOW that 7 minutes later, www.SlotHeadGallery.com will be up and running, and I won't have to "think" anymore . . . |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Steve was the singing cowboy in San Diego. I talked to him last year when he sold #42.
Sounds like 42, 45 and 54 might share a certain Ackerman's mojo ...
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Location: NJ | I paid a visit to Ackerman's a while ago.
Unfortunately, it's a mere "shell" of what it once was. The guy who owns it now originally bought his first set of drums from Mrs. Ackerman (as I had bought my first guitar).
When I was there, he had just finished clearing out a storage area and found a box of old post cards of the store from "Back in the Day". He gave me one:
 http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/cliff_41921_Ackerman's.jpg "> |
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Location: NJ | Well it WAS there . . .
(I absolutely HATE this archaic "gallery" software).
I give up . . . |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/cliff_41921_Ackerman's.jpg "> |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Oh well...cut and paste this:
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Reminds me of Dietze Music House in Lincoln Nebraska...1977: I bought my first Pacemaker 12 there......
Look at the Ibanez Artist 12 on the wall and the Musicman amps...Three PU Les Paul Custom...this was taken somewhere around 1976-78...man, takes me back...
Thanks Cliff!
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Location: NJ | 1976 it is. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I had my only hole in one playing golf with Doug Fenton from Deitz music. That was way back in 89. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I had my only hole in one playing a round all by my self. Actually I might have had two holes in one that day.
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Not interested in any personal info on him. Just curious as by the time I got #45 I could tell it hadn't just sat in the case as it has with me. It had been very much, shall we say, enjoyed. |
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Location: CT | I'll bet none of those guitars are re-issues or 'artist' models. The way it should be. The Ibanez double neck looks like an Artist. They were pretty reasonable back then. There's a 2670 (Randy Scruggs model - with the vine inlays and whacky peg heads) in the 48th St. Sam Ash window as I type this for...6,999.00! puh - LEEZE!
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Tupperware:
I had my only hole in one playing a round all by my self. Actually I might have had two holes in one that day.
Dave I have witnesses to my TWO hole-in-ones in one round last month. The first one whisked just past the moving windmill arm, right into the dragon's mouth, popped out of the pipe on the lower level, directly into the hole. The second one was a perfect carom off the cement triangle, off the side curb and into the hole. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Originally posted by Tupperware:
I had my only hole in one playing a round all by my self. Actually I might have had two holes in one that day.
Dave I have witnesses to my TWO hole-in-ones in one round last month. The first one whisked just past the moving windmill arm, right into the dragon's mouth, popped out of the pipe on the lower level, directly into the hole. The second one was a perfect carom off the cement triangle, off the side curb and into the hole. |
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Location: Colorado | Sheesh... I shudda just said "I am not Elias"
BTW - no one can beat me at putt putt |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Sorry Elgin...but I am the Southeastern Putt Putt Champion. I can beat you.
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Location: big island | i be the hawaiian putt-putt king. we will have a putt-putt championship at our next southern/tropical ofc shindig. i putt-putt best just after consuming a bowl of chili so we will have a chili cook-off just prior. |
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Location: SoCal | I can't recall... did Al tell and encourage the owner of #29 to join the OFC? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Normally I'd say that I'd get behind that...BUT not after all that chili...I'll be upwind if possible...lol :o
I had a natural top 3pu Les Paul Custom from 1977...bought it from Doug Fenton at Deitz...seems like it was around $650.00...I also bought a 1966 Firebird V w/oriinal case and the Pacemaker 12 as well as Pa/Amps/etc..Lincoln was a central stop for our midwest bookings from 1976-1980...nice folks to deal with...Small world sometimes...
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Location: NJ | ". . I can't recall... did Al tell and encourage the owner of #29 to join the OFC? . ."
I dunno.
Did you ask him??
It very well could be that the guy who owns #29 also has "a Life".
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Has anyone else noticed that the look of guitars really hasn't changed since that picture back in '76, or even earlier for that matter? Sure, there are "trendy" looks like the 2080 & Al's Koa deals, or some Rainsongs, CA's, etc, but as a whole you could walk into a guitar shop today and easily re-create that same photo with current models. With all the reissues from Ovation, Gibson, Fender...it's like time hasn't even passed.
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another original slothead FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!1