Good News!!!! but... OT
Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-07-12 3:58 PM (#90536)
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Just got off the phone with the financial administrator at the hospital.

They have agreed to cover the costs of the implant and surgery for Char and associated surgery costs and provide the staff and inpatient aftercare at no cost..

everything BUT the surgeon's fees... her gp, Dr. Nunes has already waived his fees, is working on a fundraiser to help raise money for her care, and is consulting with his colleagues and those related to his practice hoping to find one willing to do the procedure, either for little or no cost.

so hopefully if all goes well we can get her in to the hospital and have this done early next week.

the hospital is waiting for the admission orders..

thanks for the prayers guys..

Glenn
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-07-12 4:05 PM (#90537 - in reply to #90536)
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Glenn - that's awesome! You don't hear that kind of story every day regarding health care!
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-07-12 4:06 PM (#90538 - in reply to #90536)
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Yippee!!!!!!
What wonderful news!!
I will certainly continue to keep you both in my prayers.
Is it o.k. to send you both a hug?
--Karen
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-07-12 4:55 PM (#90539 - in reply to #90536)
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Great news Glen! Still in our prayers!
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schroeder
Posted 2007-07-12 5:07 PM (#90540 - in reply to #90536)
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Excellent news! :)
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-07-12 5:30 PM (#90541 - in reply to #90536)
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Nice!! We know who to thank!!
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-12 5:50 PM (#90542 - in reply to #90536)
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YAY! Sending positive vibes and wishes that everything works itself out in short order.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-07-12 5:57 PM (#90543 - in reply to #90536)
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Fantastic! Who says prayers are not answered? They are; Almost always in one of three ways: Yes; No; Wait!
It's the second two we don't want to hear. We'll keep praying!
Blessings...
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schroeder
Posted 2007-07-12 6:19 PM (#90544 - in reply to #90536)
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Course you could always live in Europe and you wouldn't have to go through this ridiculous heartache of paying for treatment. Nobody is uninsurable with a National Health System. Cost doesn't enter the equation.

Wise up and do it guys - it won't make you communists.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-12 6:21 PM (#90545 - in reply to #90536)
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That's very good news, Glenn. Thanks for keeping us informed.
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an4340
Posted 2007-07-12 6:42 PM (#90546 - in reply to #90536)
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I've heard that there's rationing or long waits for surgeries like cataract replacement or dental care in UK or australia. I've also heard, that the medical care's not as good. I suppose that's a myth, but canadians do come to new york for medical care, so there has to be some truth to it.

By the way, I'm happy the bills are sorting themselves out. Hang in there.
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tragocaster
Posted 2007-07-12 6:47 PM (#90547 - in reply to #90536)
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This is great news, and the prayers will keep a-comin'!
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Designzilla
Posted 2007-07-12 8:28 PM (#90548 - in reply to #90536)
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Great news Glenn! We'll continue to keep you both in our prayers.
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-12 8:34 PM (#90549 - in reply to #90536)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
Course you could always live in Europe and you wouldn't have to go through this ridiculous heartache of paying for treatment. Nobody is uninsurable with a National Health System. Cost doesn't enter the equation.

Wise up and do it guys - it won't make you communists.
Our resident Enlgishman at 'ork has a different view on that. At least he has since his mother wound up in the hospital for emergency surgery because the NHS doctor kept rescheduling her pancreatitis op in favor of 'private patients.' He says that the latest development is for executives to have private coverage and that they pay well for it. So, the docs prioritize...two weeks for private patients vs. months for NHS patients. {shrug} Any system can (and will) be gamed.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-07-12 9:33 PM (#90550 - in reply to #90536)
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Glenn,

Great News.

We'll keep on praying.
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rick endres
Posted 2007-07-13 10:45 AM (#90551 - in reply to #90536)
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Great news, Glenn!

Nice to know there are still good people in this world, too. Sometimes, when you listen to the news, you've got to shake your head and wonder.
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Beggin
Posted 2007-07-13 11:35 AM (#90552 - in reply to #90536)
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Glenn, this news is super. As always, our prayers are with you both. Keep us updated please.
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-07-13 11:48 AM (#90553 - in reply to #90536)
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Thanks All!!

Dr. Nunes thinks he has the surgeon lined up... definite confirmation will come later today(hopefully), we have contacted several others as well just in case..

she's scared of the surgery.. but the implant is minor(almost outpatient)except for fishing the electrodes into the heart and monitoring for 24-48 hours.. surgery...and sometimes just done with a local and valium.. if it's a go after today she'll be coming off the bloodthinners and will be admitted early next week.

I just got a care package from a fellow OFC member... so I now have something to work some nervous energy off with.. stripping/filling/sanding that wonderful bomb-proof poly off a viper body..

Thanks Mike(CrimsonLake)!!

and Thanks again to all here for all of the prayers, kind thoughts and positive vibe.

Glenn
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-07-13 11:58 AM (#90554 - in reply to #90536)
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Glenn - my pleasure. And it is definitely a PITA getting the finish off of the Viper - my Preacher was 10x easier. I hope your daughter likes it.

Best Regards,

Mike
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-07-13 12:05 PM (#90555 - in reply to #90536)
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Thanks Mike, and with the addition of "Frankie" Mwoody's goody box just got bigger..

Thanks Again,

Glenn
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-07-13 12:08 PM (#90556 - in reply to #90536)
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Frankie is a trip, isn't it? Woulda been really cool if the paint glowed in the dark!
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-07-13 12:29 PM (#90557 - in reply to #90536)
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I liked the way they hammered the smaller tailstop studs/sockets into the Ovation sockets, primitive, ingenious, and probably worked pretty good..

I'm gonna try to salvage the sockets... but is really just an excuse to swing a hammer and use some tools... don't know if I'll be able to salvage the threads with a chaser or not... but since I'm already going to be chasing the threads on the UK body that B coated in paint will give those a shot as well..

if the neck pocket had had more than 1 side left Frank.. would have been the easiest choice.... but..he's apparently had a very rough life.. and needs and deserves full modification ala MW.. and if Dr. Woody deems it necessary reshape and rebuild him..

Thanks again, and Thanks Again!

Glenn
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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-13 12:40 PM (#90558 - in reply to #90536)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
Course you could always live in Europe and you wouldn't have to go through this ridiculous heartache of paying for treatment. Nobody is uninsurable with a National Health System. Cost doesn't enter the equation.

Wise up and do it guys - it won't make you communists.
Yeah, and pay ridiculous taxes.
And other than in Germany, France and maybe UK you don't get full cost refund.
In Poland you pay for health care a lot of money relatively (about 15% of income) and you still have to pay for everything in hospital, maybe except bed.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-07-13 1:09 PM (#90559 - in reply to #90536)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
Nobody is uninsurable with a National Health System. Cost doesn't enter the equation.
Wrong on both counts.
Some people are uninsurable....or at least their treatment isn't. Same diff.

While proponents may say cost doesn't enter into treatment, rationing does. Again, same diff.

Still, it's not a horrible system....it just comes with its own set of different flaws.
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schroeder
Posted 2007-07-13 5:06 PM (#90560 - in reply to #90536)
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Correct. But there's no danger you won't get treated.
So LBJ would you rather pay low taxes and watch your kids die?

13 million Americans without any form of health insurance is not exactly a wonderful situation.
I'm not trying to make this political, just moral.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-13 5:18 PM (#90561 - in reply to #90536)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
Correct. But there's no danger you won't get treated.
So LBJ would you rather pay low taxes and watch your kids die?

13 million Americans without any form of health insurance is not exactly a wonderful situation.
I'm not trying to make this political, just moral.
Yes but in US you're not forced to pay for health insurance. If you don't want it, or you can't afford it - you don't get it.
i prefer american tax system over european, because i hate socialism and overregulation, which has place in EU.
I know that if i had a cancer, or i needed a surgery, i wouldn't be saved because in Poland health care doesn't warrant you anything, and i would die anyway. In home, in hospital...who cares. I've had my mother in hospital last year. It was awful. People who in other countries would be operated and get treated well were laying on the bed and moaning, because there wasn't enough morphine in hospital to give them. They were dying one after another and in the room where my mother laid there was 7 deaths (!) in 12 days.
I bet that if i paid 15% of my income in US for health care i'd get much more than in poland.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-07-13 5:49 PM (#90562 - in reply to #90536)
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Anyone who needs medical care in America gets it ... period. Even if you don't have insurance. Even if you are in the country illegally. There is a safety net built in, same as our welfare system. One can find flaws in every system and then there are people who choose not to participate. Every doctor I know allocates pro bono work to those who need it, people like Char. And then there are the faith-based organizations (but let's not go there).

As far as other systems, I have two stories:

One: My Dutch step-mother needed knee replacement surgery. She waited over three years ... it got to the point she could not walk so the Dutch medical system gave her a wheelchair. My father just gave up and brought her to the US and inside of a week she had new knees, and was biking and hiking within 6 weeks. Two years after her surgery, she got a call from the Dutch health system saying they wanted to see her and they could schedule her procedure for the following year if their examination deemed it necessary.

Two: My best friend is a health systems expert, for two years he has been living in Slough and serving as a lead database designer for the rewrite of the British health system. He was a very vocal supporter of a universal health care system in the US. He now has done a 180 and is vehemently against a state health care system.

The whole "uninsured" is blown way out of proportion by people with political agendas (but let's not go there). It is undisputed that America has the finest health care system in the world. It may not be perfect, but it is way ahead of anything else.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-07-13 6:11 PM (#90563 - in reply to #90536)
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Of course, from Canada we get the best of both worlds!

Don't like the long wait for new knees?
Take a bus to Blaine!

I will say, here..all emergency work is handled in a reasonable manner. (depending how far you are from where the emergency service is available....but it's a big country.)

However, because all doctors are are either 100% in or out of the system (though many are playing around the edges of the rules) there is virtually no pro bono work. The government paperwork makes it prohibitive to donate your time.
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