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Location: Milano, ITALY | Hi. I've been spending a lot of time trying to find information about the original, full carbon 2004 Adamas Q, but I cannot find anything more than the image displayed on the Adamas official site. I know it eventually gave life to the Q 181, but I wander why the origina full carbon structure never saw life. Anybody has any information? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | It just never got legs... |
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Location: Midland, MI | Saw one hanging in the repair shop racks at the factory. It was black with red sparkles and I thought it looked pretty cool. No idea what they sound like, though. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I know where #8 and 10 are but I don't think there were any past #12. It never made it to production. More rare than a PF22. |
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Location: Paris/France | Some info in THIS CATALOG.
A very special instrument!!
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Why didn't it make it? A total graphite guitar is an obvious evolution and others have done it?
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Location: San Bernardino, California | $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | lots of reasons and that's only one. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Would be kinda cool to see it available from Adamas Custom Shop.... |
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Location: East Tennessee | I saw Glen Campbell play one 8 or 9 years ago. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | It's only a guess - but I doubt they sounded half as good as they looked. The ones that played it (and own it), please teach me, if I am wrong.
Anyway, to own one of the Q's - I would immediately get rid of one or two of my best sounding O's or A's for a Q. These guitars are way too cool!
By the way - I never did a search for these. Bill, did they all stay in the USA?
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Location: Munich, Germany | There was a list price for them: 5.999$
Did one of them get sold?
You made me nervous,
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I believe someone at Ovation told me that the motivation to building this guitar was the "Q" ...
NAMM DISPLAY
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | That thing is sexy. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I don't remember if any were sold. DJ has one, #12 I think, and I have 8 and 10.
It would have been pretty expensive. So What?
Marketing was afraid to ask a really high price. Chickens!
The guitar was only 90% there and needed some final refinements that never got done. OOPS!
What was finally done was a big compromise down the middle that missed just about all the major cool points. And those wavey sound holes are like something you'd see on MOB (My Other Bitch)
They sounded more wooden that any box I've heard. Chalk another one up in the shuddadoneit column. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Can't really understand this one. Does the Ovation fiber glass body go on for another 20 years? Obviously graphite composite or something like it is the future. Other smaller companies have pulled it off but don't know how profitable they are? Is the composite manufacturing process so expensive, difficult, that it is hard to get it to a market price that makes sense. Rumors were that CA almost went bankrupt retooling and their price point right now may be at a marketing point of pain. The Q design still looks superior to anything out there.
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Location: Midland, MI | I wonder how 'the market' would react, though, if Adamas moved into full carbon-fiber, considering that CA and Rainsong (and even Steinberger among others?) have been doing full-CF/graphite guitars for a while now. Almost like the original innovator playing catchup with the competition.
Still, that Q with the red sparklies in the repair shop looked awfully sharp. I'd consider one, but the price would have to be right and it'd have to sound better (or at least different, but just as good) as the A2 2-knobber I have now. |
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Location: NJ | ". . sounded more wooden that any box I've heard . ."
amen.
. . and it's such a DAMN "sexy" guitar to play t'boot . . .
Q10 is a masterpiece! |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | It would be cool to see the Custom Shop offer two different setups; one being the more traditional texture tops & epaulettes, and the other along the lines of that NAMM model...something completely cutting edge both in technology and design.
I don't know for sure, but I'd have a hard time imagining that it couldn't be made profitable in a custom-shop situation. After all, has anyone looked at all the SERIOUSLY overpriced reissues that the Fender custom shop has turned out lately? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by cliff:
". . sounded more wooden that any box I've heard . ."
amen.
. . and it's such a DAMN "sexy" guitar to play t'boot . . .
Q10 is a masterpiece! .
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With the success of the OFC and Koa guitars, maybe this could be a future Lost Art/Vintage special edition. I know I would certainly consider buying one. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Is anyone else picking up on the irony of all the hoopla given the graphite case in the other post this week. Just think what it would do if they put it in the guitar.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Keep in mind these did have wood braces, fingerboard and bridge. Oh yeah, the buttons on the tuners too. Maybe we could get those in grafite too?
The Q guitars I am refering to were the ones with the Dodge grill sound holes, not the My Other Bitch ones. I'm not sure how many of those were made, they were after my time. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Should I assume that the Q you are referring to is something different than these?
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Location: SoCal | Yup... |
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Location: Munich, Germany | I just love the idea of a carbon neck - with carbon headstock...
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Location: Munich, Germany | ...and carbon braces as well.
Even when this Q has the MOB holes. |
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Location: CT | Originally posted by cwk2:
... More rare than a PF22. ...but not more rare than this, right? (Thanx Miles!) :D
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Very cool stuff! The all-carbon idea I think is an awesome way to go. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I'll admit that there is some infatuation with carbon fiber, just the sexiness of it. But in the end for me it's still the sound that's number one priority. I played two of the original Q's at the factiry and they were very nice. But I would not jump to the conclusion that they make all other guitars obsolete. Dave |
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Location: Orange County, California | Dave,
Please quit screwing around and bring back the Ovation Gallery... |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | I am new to the pictures of Q, never really kept up with that. It looks awesome. I would disagree that graphite is not the future. I use graphite now and will never go back. Sound and duribility hard to beat. Absolute shame this masterpeice never got anywhere.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Steve, don't misinterpret what I said or maybe I was not clear. I am not saying that graphite isn't necessarily the future. What I am saying is that to buy a guitar simply BECAUSE it's graphite would (in my opinion) be a mistake. But to buy it because it sounds good, plays good, excites some visceral feelings in you, etc. or is just "right" by what ever definitoion you choose would be a whole different matter. Believe me, I have bought plenty of guitars because of how they looked or how I thought they made me look. For the most part those instruments have long since been passed on to others. Dave |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | That is a very cool picture of the proto of the viper bass. Is that one of Miles pictures? I know the bass is sitting right across the room from me now and it still looks good!
As I look at it again that may be a different bass, mine is fretless. |
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Location: CT | Yes that is...uh..WAS Miles' bass. He graciously let it out of his stable, it's here with me now and I absolutely love it. So there's a fretless one too? Sweet. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yes, the fretless is s/n X B032. What's yours? |
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Location: CT | s/n X059. Not sequential, but I don't know how the prototype serial numbers work. I thought it was a one off, but an evil fretless twin, huh? Was that all or could there be a few more floating around? |
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Location: CT | ..does the fretless have line markers and dot inlays? just lines? I'm guessing its not just plain ebony, or it would be real easy to tell them apart. |
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