I like the new look
Trader Jim
Posted 2007-07-15 6:25 PM (#90327)
Subject: I like the new look


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Finally we get rid of the "green". Looks great guys!
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TRboy
Posted 2007-07-15 6:40 PM (#90328 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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"Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good".......


......I like it too! :cool:
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-15 6:50 PM (#90329 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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I think it's a great idea, Miles. But, I bet you already knew that. ;) If the OFC winds up looking like that other site you and I discussed it can only be a 'GoodThing(tm)'. :)
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lanaki
Posted 2007-07-15 6:53 PM (#90330 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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i likes it.....alot!
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-07-15 7:10 PM (#90331 - in reply to #90327)
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I like the new colors. :cool:

Kinda makes you want to get out a box of crayons. :D
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MWoody
Posted 2007-07-15 7:16 PM (#90332 - in reply to #90327)
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Miles, can you make it with an optinal menu to cast a look like Excel or something that the Boss would think was work?

Or the optional header of "How to be a better Husband".

Whatever...

Nice job.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-07-15 7:30 PM (#90333 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Originally posted by TRboy:
"Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good".......


......I like it too! :cool:
Uhhh... I'm kinda like a Commodore 64 trapped in a MS Vista kinda world.

Just an Old Hippie, ain't tryin' to cause no fuss, ain't tryin' to change anybody,
Just try Real Hard to adjust! :rolleyes:

Repeat after me... "Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good, Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good,Change is good".......
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Omaha
Posted 2007-07-15 7:40 PM (#90334 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Great new look, and THANKS! to everyone who makes this site a reality. Great job, guys!
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-15 8:12 PM (#90335 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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I still got green around this quick reply box and the top.
Yeah, I know, change is good change is good. I like the wide screen.
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Country Artist
Posted 2007-07-15 11:23 PM (#90336 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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very nice :cool:

change is good...
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-07-16 12:35 AM (#90337 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Looks much better.
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Jérôme
Posted 2007-07-16 1:03 AM (#90338 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Thanks Miles, it's very nice !!!

J :)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-16 1:17 AM (#90339 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Thanks guys. Consolidating, and making things a little smoother. Gonna miss the green as it was a nod to the motherships' website a few years back. Besides, most things blue, green or red are lost on me anyway depending on the time of day.
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Jérôme
Posted 2007-07-16 1:54 AM (#90340 - in reply to #90327)
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Miles,

Is the logo on the top of the page the new OFC logo??

J :)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-16 2:00 AM (#90341 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Originally posted by Jérôme:
Miles,
Is the logo on the top of the page the new OFC logo??
J :)
Hmmm I guess it is, at least for now. I liked the previous one with the "outline" font followed by the solid font, but it looked kindof lost in the new design.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-07-16 8:21 AM (#90342 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Very nice Guys, I like it very much! Classy; without being overstated...Friendly, and inviting...wow, thats more adjectives on a Monday than I've used in a long while...Congrats and thanks!
Blessings...
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-07-16 9:12 AM (#90343 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Sorry to say, but the threads in this light, flashy blue are a bit hard to read. My eyes weaken when I look at them to long. I think they would be easier to read in a darker blue. But maybe it's just me.

Other than that - I like the new look as well.

Kurt
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an4340
Posted 2007-07-16 10:33 AM (#90344 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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So is the member chat gone forever?

It was like, as my wife said, chattering like monkeys (OFC members) about bananas (O guitars).

Maybe it's better that's it's gone.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-07-16 10:45 AM (#90345 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Originally posted by MWoody:
Miles, can you make it with an optinal menu to cast a look like Excel or something that the Boss would think was work?
You need Ghostzilla (Google it).
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an4340
Posted 2007-07-16 10:48 AM (#90346 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Maybe on the welcome screen a photo might be nice, like a picture from a fan gathering or every month a picture of a guitar that the members could vote on?

Otherwise, Thumbs up!
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Jeff
Posted 2007-07-16 2:12 PM (#90347 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Looks great, Miles! :)
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-17 11:26 AM (#90348 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Looking better every day, Miles! Glad you're getting away from the frames, they are a pain on my 8525.
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brainslag
Posted 2007-07-17 12:39 PM (#90349 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Nice. How about at the top of the page where the links are, add 'General Posting' and 'For Sale', so you can get to either without clicking the 'Back' button. Just go up top and they're there?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-17 1:03 PM (#90350 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Hmmm I'll think about that one, but in the mean time, if you are reading this, scroll down and you will see a "Hop To:" pull down box that lets you jump directly to other sections too.
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brainslag
Posted 2007-07-17 1:07 PM (#90351 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Aaaaah.. Uh, was that always there? I guess I need to pay attention more..
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-17 1:55 PM (#90352 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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LOL.... uh huh... :)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-07-17 2:09 PM (#90353 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Now I feel really stupid. I never saw it either. :rolleyes:
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-17 2:13 PM (#90354 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Times like this makes programmers wonder why they bother...
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-17 3:27 PM (#90355 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Times like this makes programmers wonder why they bother...
Yeah, but *real* programmers *live* for times like this. It reinforces the superiority complex, you know. ;)
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-17 5:18 PM (#90356 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Originally posted by cruster:
Yeah, but *real* programmers *live* for times like this. It reinforces the superiority complex, you know. ;)
Oh.

☼ ═ ♫ ═ ♪ ═ ☼ ☺ « ☺ » ☺ ☼ ═ ♪ ═ ♫ ═ ☼
Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω ≡« ☺ »≡ Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω
...mine doesn't need reinforcing...
Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω ≡« ☺ »≡ Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω
☼ ═ ♫ ═ ♪ ═ ☼ ☺ « ☺ » ☺ ☼ ═ ♪ ═ ♫ ═ ☼

It's all I can do to keep it in check as it is. :D
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-17 7:32 PM (#90357 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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At first I thought, "Wingdings. Bush league."

Then I said, "Hrmm, but Wingdings mightn't show up in every browser. ALT keys!"

Then I said, "No, not ALT keys, none of those are extended ASCII (well, OK, maybe the equals sign and bitwise shifts...but I don't recall offhand)."

Then I said, "Hrmm. Ampersands."

Well played, friend. Well played.

;)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-07-17 9:21 PM (#90358 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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While you guys are into improving things...
Get more Graemlins for us computer illiterates.
"So easy a caveman can do it" :confused: :mad:

[Oh, if I didn't mention it... I like the new format.
Once I got used to it :mad: ]
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-18 12:09 AM (#90359 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Get more Graemlins for us computer illiterates.
I believe Brad used to have an AMC Graemlin.
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rededdie
Posted 2007-07-18 12:46 AM (#90360 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Miles, I can't speak for ALL of the lurkers on this board, but it looks great, and a lot easier on the eyes too
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-18 1:39 AM (#90361 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Thanks guys'n gals. I'll check into the Graemlins but don't get ur hopes up :) If the update has just brought out one lurker to post, it's all worth it :)

Thanks again, still a bit more to do.
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edensharvest
Posted 2007-07-18 2:15 AM (#90362 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Definitely cleaner - nice work. Now if you insert scrolling background shots from the OFC calendar behind the text, of course in low res so the site still loads quickly, and obviously it has to look clean...

Never mind, it looks great. ;)
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-18 7:13 AM (#90363 - in reply to #90327)
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Originally posted by cruster:
Well played, friend. Well played.
;)
Thanks, Crusted.

"PITAism is more than just a hobby!"
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-07-18 8:41 AM (#90364 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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it's genetic....
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-07-18 8:51 AM (#90365 - in reply to #90327)
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and Miles, the place looks nice...

(an increased 200 Kb pic limit in the Photo Gallery would be nice)
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-18 8:55 AM (#90366 - in reply to #90327)
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No, it's a way of life...
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-18 9:01 AM (#90367 - in reply to #90327)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
(an increased 200 Kb pic limit in the Photo Gallery would be nice)
An "All Forums" search option would be nice, too. :)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-07-18 9:06 AM (#90368 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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(yeah, "Vaults" included... even though only four of us ever use the search function)
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MWoody
Posted 2007-07-18 10:37 AM (#90369 - in reply to #90327)
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I truly appreciate all of this effort that I didn't even pay for, so somewhat ashamedly let me ask for:

200kb pics

Update links - add www.ovationuk.co.uk - drop the non working ones.

Ability to edit a Gallery or Album using multiple text entries and delete check boxes instead of the one item functions.

FAQs as discussed.

Do you need more funds to do this or just more time?
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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-18 11:29 AM (#90370 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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if anyone interested, i can prepare template and engine for this site to make it really good-looking and easier to mantain.
it'll require mysql database and php4+ on server side.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-18 2:16 PM (#90371 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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"Do you need more funds to do this or just more time?"

Is there a difference? time = funds, funds = time :)

Seriously thanks for the input. Although it may not seem that way, I not only listen to all of the input I research it and weigh it against many factors. The most important factor being the statistic of the nearly 100 people who join every month and the large number of them that are not in this part of the world. Cool graphics and fancy backgrounds are all great... the first time you see them. Maybe the 2nd... by the third time most people don't even notice them anymore.

I have found on the OvationFanClub, people spend a LOT of time on the site. Most other sites an individual averages 2, 3 4 minutes on the site, Here, the nearly 35,000 visites each month last around 10 minutes each. With over 1.1 and 1.5 million hits each month, I think any changes very carefully. Consider a 1Kb greamlin downloaded 1 million times, is 1 GB of data transfer all for a smiley face.

Anyway, keep the cards and letters coming. I like hearing the idea's and frankly I hate working in a vacuume. If anyone is interested in MotorCycles, I launched another site call http://www.Vision-Riders.com . The target demographic is much different than here, hence the site is much different.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-18 2:36 PM (#90372 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look



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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
frankly I hate working in a vacuum
Me too, Miles. It's cramped, hot, dusty... and the freakin wind is blows my notes around all the time.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-18 2:40 PM (#90373 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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mr ovation:
i was thinking about something quite light and quick loading, with control panel which allows administrators to change nearly everything without knowing html etc.

i didn't think about changing anything in forum, and forum by itself is very costly in terms of transfer.

there are some examples of my work:
portal ekologia
my homepage - under construction (this one i started to create 50 minutes ago)
and others, not based on joomla/mambo like:
pgwir
i usually don't prepare graphics, because i'm not very talented person, and if i have to, effects are like on wodapowietrze.pl or on my website.
on pgwir graphics were prepared by my friend and it looks quite good.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-07-18 11:14 PM (#90374 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Only an average of 10 minutes each? It's good to know I'm way above average on something, but bad to know it's on the "needs to get a life" index.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-07-18 11:39 PM (#90375 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Can I throw something out that has bothered me for a long time ... Discussion about prices (other than ebay auctions, which everyone can see what you bought or sold a guitar for). I always feel awkward when this topic comes up. How much did you pay? I saw an XYZ for $?$? at guitar center, etc. I am NOT saying that I would like this board to be like one of the other ones I participate in, but I DO think that AGF has a good policy on the subject of posting price information. I throw this out just for discussion and consideration by the admins. The following is copied from AFG terms and rules:

"NO GUITAR PRICING DISCUSSIONS: We respectfully ask that you keep guitar pricing discussions offline. We think pricing discussions in this forum can hurt dealers and ultimately hurt customers. When someone posts that they bought a guitar for from dealer XXXXX XXXXX, that suddenly sets the price for a lot of other dealers to have to match to stay competitive. It doesn't matter if the more expensive dealer offers better service or value-adds, has a nicer display room where the instruments are better cared for, etc. If "Cow Warehouse Guitars" is selling the same guitar for less money, many people are going to buy it. Now if you were the guy that just got great service buying your first xxxxx guitar from your local dealer, you're so excited, you come online to see what other people are saying about this guitar and you find out that someone else just paid a few hundred less for the same model, how are you gonna feel?

We don't ask much from the members here, but we will probably always ask you to use email if you want to discuss prices. We think that dealers should be free to have a relationship with their customers without feeling like they are held hostage by a post on an Internet forum. We simply don't want our forum to be used for that. Besides... How hard is it to post "Need pricing advice on a xxxx. Email me at blah@blahblah.com"?

Dave
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-19 12:08 AM (#90376 - in reply to #90327)
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Dave,
Alex and I try to defuse the "ebay police" and I think for the most part it's in check. I don't want to have to make a rule about it. It may come to that someday, but I don't think we're there yet.

Little Boy Jefferson,
On the interface, thanks, but it already exists for the most part, but frankly I've been programming for so long that it's easier to open notepad when I want to change something. But thanks for the offer. Also no offense, but I live in a PHP resistant zone. :)
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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-19 12:15 AM (#90377 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Mr.Ovation:
ok,
i was doing everything in plain html few years ago, but now i'm too lazy to do it.
and since 2000 X-Window system on BSD/Linux/Unix platform developed significantly and now it doesn't crash every time some flash animation is loaded.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-07-19 12:25 AM (#90378 - in reply to #90327)
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Miles - is it possible to put the "Hop to" at the top of the page as well?
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-07-19 12:30 AM (#90379 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Miles, I wasn't referring to ebay. That's all public information. What I was referring to was the posting of new guitar prices at various dealers. e.g. Somebody posts that Brother Bobblehead is blowing out Elite-T's for $600. I just bought one from my local dealer for $700. therefor I feel ripped off and not inclined to support my local dealer anymore. I'm probably making something out of nothing but it just bothers me to see 2% of the dealers sell 98% of the guitars and get away with offering little to no added value in the process. Dave

PS - Don't worry, tomorrow I'll have a new pet peeve.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-19 12:51 AM (#90380 - in reply to #90327)
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Thanks for the idea CL.

Tuppy, I agree on the price stuff. I said ebay police, I meant to say price police. Again, lets hope it doesn't come to more rules.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-07-19 10:25 AM (#90381 - in reply to #90327)
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"Can I throw something out that has bothered me for a long time ..."

This should be a separate Posting area me thinks! Worthy of a Quote of the Day!

Thank you Dave for being you! Now open up your freak'in O Gallery and register my Highly collectable Pre-Vintage OFC Uke and the one of my Viper Mutts I just stuck a real Neckplate on!!!

I'll be in the kitchen making French Toast for art's sake...
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gh1
Posted 2007-07-19 4:14 PM (#90382 - in reply to #90327)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
... What I was referring to was the posting of new guitar prices at various dealers. ....
Another forum has a rule specifically prohibiting this practice:

NO GUITAR PRICING DISCUSSIONS: We respectfully ask that you keep guitar pricing discussions offline. We think pricing discussions in this forum can hurt dealers and ultimately hurt customers. When someone posts that they bought a guitar for from dealer XXXXX XXXXX, that suddenly sets the price for a lot of other dealers to have to match to stay competitive. It doesn't matter if the more expensive dealer offers better service or value-adds, has a nicer display room where the instruments are better cared for, etc. If "Cow Warehouse Guitars" is selling the same guitar for less money, many people are going to buy it. Now if you were the guy that just got great service buying your first guitar from your local dealer, you're so excited, you come online to see what other people are saying about this guitar and you find out that someone else just paid a few hundred less for the same model, how are you gonna feel?

FWIW

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gh1
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gh1
Posted 2007-07-19 4:27 PM (#90383 - in reply to #90327)
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Oh, never mind -- i just now went back through the thread and see this is a duplicate post. DOH!


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gh1
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-07-20 1:15 AM (#90384 - in reply to #90327)
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Wow ... seems like I haven't been on for a while. I like the change BTW. It's very cool. :)
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Waskel
Posted 2007-07-20 12:05 PM (#90385 - in reply to #90327)
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Miles, could you perhaps include the link to the OFC Frappr map somewhere (maybe the reference section)?

I believe they also offer the html to embed the map.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-07-20 8:31 PM (#90386 - in reply to #90327)
Subject: Re: I like the new look


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Yeah, and maybe a drink holder on the sidebar would be nice too. :D
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