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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Here is a new song from his upcoming album...again...wow! New Tommy Emmanuel
Blessings and enjoy... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | OK, my bad...last album...but still a gas! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Better yet... Top This...
I dare ya...
Blessings... |
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Joined: July 2007 Posts: 325
Location: Texas | That was great - now why can't I play like that - could it be that I won't practice. Thanks MusicMishka - loved it!! |
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Joined: October 2004 Posts: 256
Location: chicago | Few players can express the honesty and joy that Tommy sincerely portrays.Has anyone ever seen him play anything half assed?He is always having fun and thats what its all about!
Jeff
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 972
Location: PDX | Originally posted by TenFootfingrz:
Few players can express the honesty and joy that Tommy sincerely portrays......
Jeff True that.
Ed Gerhard has an arrangement of the Water is Wide that has a strong emotional element.
TE always looks like he's having fun, doesn't he.
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126
Location: Omaha, NE | Ok, I'm going to really stick my foot in my mouth here, but here goes: Does anyone listen to TE besides other guitar players?
Personally, I like listening to stuff like this in small doses. A song or two here and there is about all I can take. Sure, it is technically impressive, but ultimately the guitar is limited as a solo instrument. It just can't generate the power of traditional orchestral instruments.
Sometimes when I listen to Mozart, I wonder if he was just f*cking with people. Listen to "The Magic Flute", and you know he must have been pissed off at some diva and just wanted her to suffer. Then listen to Eine Kleine Nachtmusik and you know he was thinking "I just wrote the most beautiful melody anyone will ever hear. I think I'll give it a throw-away name so people won't think I was even trying". And the truth is, he probably wasn't. For a genius like that, knocking off a simple string quartet piece would be child's play compared to writing a full opera.
Years ago, I spent months working up a convincing solo fingerstyle guitar version of Ave Maria for a wedding. Very, very tough, but I finally got it nailed down to where I could play it in my sleep. But by the time I was done, I realized it was dead as fried chicken. A guitar player would appreciate how busy I was maintaining a rolling counterpoint to the melody, but to the casual listener, it was just a lifeless version of the song. I recruited a flute player, gave her the melody while I took the counterpoint, and it killed.
I guess I'm still bitter that we never had money for violin lessons when I was a kid. :) |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | T'be honest, I've NEVER heard him . . .
I've seen little bits on TV and YouTube & such, but never went and sought-out one of his CD's.
I appreciate his talent & ability, but solo instrumental guitar albums tend t'become "background music" t'me after a while . . . after 2-3 tunes, I start looking for something else. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Me too.
I can appreciate and envy the talent it takes. I just can't stick with it very long. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332
Location: Bluffton, SC | It's all ice cream... |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 22
Location: Ky | TE is much more impressive in concert than listening to his albums would lead one to believe. I have a DVD by him that is simply mind-blowing. In person his personality combines with his considerable virtuosity to create an entertaining experience. Then it's all propelled by his exuberant enthusiasm. You can't help but get caught up in it. Listening to his albums, though, can induce sleep -even if you are blown away by what you are hearing. Also, although he has written some beautiful music, much of what he writes is "forgettable". His strongest stuff is covers of other great stuff -not his own stuff.
I'd sure love to try out one of those Maton guitars, though. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | from everything i have read about maton guitars, and our ofc friends down under can attest to this, they are rather unimpressive. tommy sets his up with an innovative pickup system employing an individual piezo for each string. acoustically, his guitars do not sound so wonderful, but like most ovation models, sound excellent plugged in. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | After spending much of my life playing in clubs/bars/restaurants/stage and now in church, and having have learned and played well over 1500 songs (I lost count after that...my 4 gig books each have over 250 and I have a 2 boxes of lyrics of probably 500 more) I fancied myself a good player but certainly not great...adequate! Enough to make a living; stay working, and have a good time doing it. I too had never heard of TE until several months ago: and he blew me away! He has such a good time with the music and as for the guitar not being a solo instrument, WHAT? Tell that to Clapton, Beck, Hendrix (difficult to do because he's dead) etc. I think the problem people have with guitarists like TE (and there are few in his league) is that they cannot copy them...artistically they are too advanced (BTW, its a gift!)...so they get frustrated and cop out. Hey, I can't play like him either, but I can certainly appreciate his genius and be entertained his talent! I have ordered several of his albums and a DVD, and I’m looking forward to them. Of course to each his or her own, sure...but for me, TE is incredible: simply one of the finest guitarists I have ever heard or seen! It works for me and apparently for quite a few others! He makes me wish I had taken the instrument and the gift seriously and not treated it as just a hobby/party favor/chick magnet/etc. I do enjoy using the gift I have now for a better purpose and getting satisfaction of messages that are positive. TE and his solo guitar (and some of Doyle Dykes, and Will Ackerman, etc.) are personally very entertaining and even relaxing (esp. after a long hard day dealing with people).
Your opinions may differ, that’s cool!
As to the Maton guitar, any guitar in the hands of a master player will sound really good!
Practice, Practice, Practice!
Blessings.... |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Tommy is not just a great guitarist. He is an entertainer, if you watch videos of his live performances, he is just fun to watch. He has great stage presence, interacts with the audience and just brings the joy out in his performance.
A lot of solo guitar music is like listening to other forms of instrumental music - it can be background or you can LISTEN to it. Either way fits the right mood. |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 651
Location: Australia | You're right, he is a great entertainer.
Although he doesn't spend much time here anymore, he is still a household name.
His albums would chart pretty high and he'd be a regular on every major TV show.
I miss his electric stuff. He used to tour with a band and play some blistering guitar. He sure can spank a mean Telecaster.
I've had the pleasure of meeting him many times and he's a real gentleman. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | I would place Tommy in the same category as Kaki King. Extremely talented musicians that are brilliant at what they do. But I just don't enjoy listening to them after the first 30 seconds. Dave |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Practice, Practice, Practice!
Blessings.... That is the bottom line, Mike. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | OK, I get it, not everyone's bowl of ice cream...
But I do think the Kaki King reference is a bit off. Kaki is a great talent and I enjoy a lot of her stuff, but her music is not as accessible as TE's. Tommy covers a lot of pop music. Mona Lisa, Somewhere over the rainbow, Lady Madonna, etc. It's easier for the general music listening public to enjoy a recognizable alternative of something familiar and popular.
But again, I get it, ice cream. I'm just trying to sell thr flavor I like! |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126
Location: Omaha, NE | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Aas for the guitar not being a solo instrument, WHAT? Tell that to Clapton, Beck, Hendrix Interesting that you reference three electric players. That kindof makes my point. Compared, for example to the violin, the solo acoustic guitar has no power. How could it? A bowed instrument is always going to have vastly greater dynamics. All the neo-classical shredders (eg, Yngwie, etal) play electric. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | TE and his solo guitar (and some of Doyle Dykes, and Will Ackerman, etc.) Alex de Grassi; Michael Hedges; Tuck and Patti; etc. etc.
These are acoustic solo players and each takes the acoustic guitar to a different place; we're not talking about apples and oranges here but entirely different instruments played in different ways to get the expression out of them: finger picked violin does little for most folks eother: of course itneeds to be bowed. Acoustic Guitar can be figer picked, played with a plectrum; bowed, eBowed, tapped, etc. I don't think that a blanket statement against the validity of acoustic solo guitar carries any weight, sorry.
Blessings... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761
Location: Boise, Idaho | I have a CD of Spanish guitar songs by people I never heard of. Although a couple of the songs sound similar, I could listen to it all day. I have many other CDs by more well known artists, including those mentioned by Mike, that are great for listening or background, as DZ suggested. I don't see that as being any different from any other orchestra, band or vocal group. I also have a bunch of piano solo stuff. I don't agree that solo guitar has any inadequacies.
On the other hand, I've never been much for concerts. I prefer to listen rather than watch and most concerts have way too much noise. Like the 7 women who sat behind us in the last concert I went to. Preston Reed, however, puts on a nice show for a small venue and I didn't appreciate what he can do with a guitar until I saw him. I expect Kaki King or Tommy would be similar. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | Omaha wrote: Compared, for example to the violin, the solo acoustic guitar has no power. How could it? ....take the time to listen to this....
Strings and Classical Guitar |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| A DVD is something I should look into. I find (along the lines of what Cliff said earlier) acoustic guitar music, as much as I love it, is not my choice of music to just pop in and listen to.
But a DVD....... well I have to say it is watching and listening that gets me with this guy.
He is so dam good that I find myself grinning from ear to ear from amazment as he fly's through one song or another. He goes so fast on some songs I openly laugh at him. He has non-human speed and it's just to funny to see an older guy (like us) playing a steel string, acoustic guitar faster than a Joe Satrioni.
I'd love to catch him in a tour if he'd ever consider coming to the northeast. He is really something! I discovered him through other members posting his music in here as well and I say; he deserves a larger spotlight than he has. His acoustic guitar work is second to none. I'm curious to see his electric guitar work if he has any......
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126
Location: Omaha, NE | That guy can really play, that's for sure. But did you notice that of seven instruments on stage, only one was mic'd? That is part of my point: Acoustic guitar is an inherently weak instrument. compared to any of the classical orchestral instruments, the guitar simply can't compare.
And as for speed, yes, TE is fast. No doubt. But that's by guitar standards. Here's a nice piece by Itzhak Perlman . The audio quality is horrible, but you will still see the point: That is a fairly routine piece in the classical repertoire, but if a guitar player played that fast we'd all be prepared to canonize him. Obviously, Perlman is exceptional ( here he is at age 13! ), but not that much.
Here's a really old video of Jascha Heifetz playing Paganini . Stunning. And, while its not a fair comparison, here is the same piece played by Li Jie on acoustic guitar . That's as well played on guitar as you will ever find, but it is flat and lifeless compared to the violin version. In this case, the comparison isn't fair for two reasons: First, Heifetz was accompanied. Second, Heifetz is Heifetz. One of the greatest ever. Jie is wonderful, but she's not Heifetz (at least not yet).
The guitar is great. I play one for hours every day. But as a solo instrument, I just don't think it stands up to orchestral instruments. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | i've posted this before but here it goes again for those interested in seeing tommy playing electric.
this man's talent and passion are so evident. not that i have the time, but if i did, i could enjoy watching and listening to tommy play for a straight few hours every couple days or so.
tommy on electric |
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Location: south east Michigan | I will say that in any video I've seen of him, T.E. looks like he is having the time of his life. Quite a contrast to say.... Mr. DiMeola, who looks more like he is struggling with a final exam. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332
Location: Bluffton, SC | I've said this before but it bears repeating - Tommy is probably the most genuine "celebrity" I've ever shook hands with. I don't know about anyone else here but I really get an immense kick out of seeing someone do what they truly love to do. I have seen it at the Tour (thank you Temp and Cliff among many others), with Tommy twice and a few other times but it really sticks out when it happens. And I love it everytime it does. |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 22
Location: Ky | http://www.acousticguitarmasters.com/PlayerPage.htm
check out this website tommy fans. He comes here to Ky every year, and not only does a concert but a full fledged workshop. He is a very nice dude and loves to teach others. He is good friends with the folks that operate this place in Ky. He's due here at the end of Jan., '08. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Tim, thanks for that link! I think I might try to make it to that one. |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330
Location: ms | Tommy is the only music DVD my wife will watch, but she will watch it from from start to finish. Tupp if 30 seconds of Tommy is all you can stand you may want to ck out some ADD sites :D |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | i cannot imagine anyone who appreciates guitar music only watching this for 30 seconds...
to each his own, but this is amazing guitar work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHm5PwMMsI |
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Joined: January 2007 Posts: 672
Location: New South Wales, Australia | Tommy just blows me away every time...his enthusiasm and genuine love of what he does takes me to another place.
He did a lot of electric guitar work down here early in his career(although he's been on the road since his early childhood) and played in a band called Goldrush. I think they only made one or two albums and I doubt they'd be available anywhere today but if you could get your hands on a copy it'd be worth a listen. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Tommy Emmanuel is a true Master of the Fret board...simply phenomenal!
Randy I second your thoughts...I personally cannot get enough (and I am so thankful for this site and for Randy for awakening me to this truly great talent)...
Blessings... |
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Location: south east Michigan | Originally posted by lanaki:
i cannot imagine anyone who appreciates guitar music only watching this for 30 seconds.
As I stated above, I think T.E. is the exception. Dispite the techinical skills and talents of the "fret tapping / body slapping" performers, their type of music hits me with only one emotional response. I get jumpy an nervous.
Tommy's performaces... especially watching him play, hits all the right musical joy buttons for me. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | All I ask is that you be accepting of my personal preferences and musical tastes the same way that I am of yours. It's my choice and for whatever reason I just don't enjoy listenig to god damn Tommy Emmanual. Big fucking deal. If that bothers you, that's just too bad. I certainly don't need or appreciate being called out over this like there is something "wrong" with me. Move on.
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Location: SoCal | touchy...... |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150
Location: Orlando, FL | Like I said not everybody's bowl of ice cream.
Dave, I think (I hope!) people were posting why they like TE and disagree a number of people who don't like solo acoustic guitar, not so much why you should like him or that you're wrong for feeling the way you do.
If everybody here liked the same thing - this place would be pretty f@#king dull!
Jeez, I could easily listen to Dream Theater or gypsy jazz music for 12 hours at a time and really enjoy it - but that probably would drive most other people nuts! |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Dave, its cool brother...I don't think anyone is picking on you personally here...I started this thread as a testimony to how TE moves me personally...it that floats your boat, great; if not that's great too...As I stated "to each their own": and kaki king does nothing for me...so what?
Pull out #42, dig on the Phoenix vibe, and let it roll off my friend!
Life's too short...and we love ya dude!
Blessings… |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | dave,
you remain one of my heroes. sorry if my post touched a nerve for you. it was not an intentional dart thrown. love ya! |
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Location: SoCal | You know, we don't need to pick on Dave regarding his choice in music. There's so much else to rag on him about.... he's a nice guy, good looking, good marriage, great kids, makes good money, he's generous to a fault, etc etc. All of these make him a great target so there's no need to give him a bad time about his taste in notes.
Oh what the hell. Dave your choice in music is horrible...... |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332
Location: Bluffton, SC | Dave, sorry if my enthusiasm for TE somehow dampened the Tiny Tim movement. Didn't mean it, bro. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | No apologies are necessary. I just thought that we'd be a little more accepting of different points of view on something as subjective as what performers or types of music we enjoy.
Music performance is entertainment, just like television, movies, books, etc. And not everyone is going to like the same thing. Maybe I loved the book "XYZ" and want to shout about it from the rooftops. That's great. Maybe it's a #1 bestseller. But there is nothing wrong with the person that read 5 pages and said "I just don't care for it".
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Exactly right!
Now the same goes for Taylor's...right?
:rolleyes:
Blessings... |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126
Location: Omaha, NE | I with TE would play a Taylor rather than those crappy Maton's he plays!
And FWIW, I think TE is a wonderful personality and a stunningly good guitar player. And from the clips I've seen he seems like a really good guy and a lot of fun to see play live. And if you like listening to him, that's wonderful. Nothing wrong there at all.
But I still maintain that the most impressive thing about TE is the mullet on the drummer in that video that Lanaki posted. That thing is world class. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Now the same goes for Taylor's...right?
ABSOLUTELY. Like I always said, I'm only telling you what I think. Not telling others what they should think.
Now if someone played a Taylor and pissed me off by trying to shove some entertainer down my throat that I just don't necessarily care for ... Well we may have to settle that one out b'hind the old woodshed.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Dave, That I would not do... :D
(BTW, in July/August "behind the woodshed" in Phoenix it's somewhere around 110 degrees!)
Blessings... |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389
Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Never really got excited over T.E.; he wasn't speaking to me (musically) unlike KK who I'm in tune with. I reckon he's rooted in a different generation; informed by different musical influences. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
BTW, in July/August "behind the woodshed" in Phoenix it's somewhere around 110 degrees That would be on the SHADY side of the woodshed!
Next January when you watch the superbowl on TV and they show you all the "local" shots of golfers, girls in skimpy tops, people crusing with the convertable top down, etc. ask me why I live here.
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332
Location: Bluffton, SC | I'd bet that you'd be hard pressed to find any one performer that appeals to all of us here.
Persoanlly I appreciate the diversity. |
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 Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4833
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Diversity? Is that still legal down there? I thought, as part of homeland security, that everyone had to show a weekly receipt from their evangelical church of choice.
From the videos, Tommys rapturous enthusiasm is about all that keeps me watching to the end. Great talent, but gets filed in the Hendrix (what else'a ya got?) catagory....for me. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332
Location: Bluffton, SC | Legal? Why diversity is where most of us gradiate from! |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | starry, starry night with muriel anderson and tommy |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Wow! Very nice Randy, thanks for posting! |
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