MIsc. Ramblings....
moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-27 9:15 PM (#84153)
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I picked up my 1537 today and was reminded of what a great guitar it is. If it were the only steel string I had, I'd feel just fine about it.

I had Elixir phos/bronze lights on the OFC slot, and busted my G string. All I had in the house was EXP lights so those went on. They sounded fine at first, but after about a week, they sound dull. Odd for a coated string. Anybody else have that kind of experience?
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-08-27 9:19 PM (#84154 - in reply to #84153)
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Not here, Paul. I've got Elixer Lights on my 1537 and I like 'em. They seem to last me but, to tell you the truth, I've been toying with the idea of going with something little different. Maybe even heavier.

Sooo I'll take suggestions too...
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-08-27 9:35 PM (#84155 - in reply to #84153)
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To expand on that a little more, I tried the Elixir Phos/Bronze earlier and I really didn't like them. Very tinny to my ear and I'm looking for a little warmer sound. Maybe they sound a little better on the OFC but I can't imagine anything sounding sour on that.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-08-27 9:50 PM (#84156 - in reply to #84153)
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I doubt strings play a factor to it. I had the privilege to play Mitchrx' 1537 (before it went to the factory to have it restored), and Weaser P's 1537 (during the recent tour). I'm not sure what strings came equipped with either, but I was completely blown away by the sound and tone that these beauties were reproducing.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-08-27 9:51 PM (#84157 - in reply to #84153)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-27 9:56 PM (#84158 - in reply to #84153)
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I've got Elixir mediums on the 1537 (poly or nano, I can't tell the difference). That guitar sounds great no matter what's on it. Weas, I don't put the phos/bronze on the 1537 'cause it's a bright guitar to begin with. That's one reason it's got mediums on it, to tone down the brightness.

Every guitar demands something different. I've got Elixir phos/bronze lights on the 87C, and the GC RI, Elixir phos/bronze mediums on the FD14, and had lights on the OFC slothead. I might try mediums on it. The 87C and GC RI need a brighter string on them. The FD14 just seems to respond better with the mediums.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-08-27 10:51 PM (#84159 - in reply to #84153)
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When I got my 1687-2 it came with Adamas strings (I assume 1918's) and I liked them but they seemed to go dead quickly; I then put a set of the new Elixir Phos/Bronze (lt. ga.) and removed a shim to lower the action...Sounded very good but I noticed the volume was much softer...Paul, if you remember, you suggested going to a medium string...Well I bought a package deal from PEZ of seven sets of strings: 5 Adamas 1919's and two Guild M450's: all of these are .013 to .056. I also added the shim, back and restrung: I have been totally happy! The volume is back and I find that the guitar is much more responsive...I don't play lead and don't bend strings on this guitar; but do finger pick and play so they work great...I haven't decided what I'll replace the strings on the 47RI when they need it but I do like the sound of these. We'll see (and thanks Paul for the idea!)...

;)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-08-28 5:35 AM (#84160 - in reply to #84153)
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I had Elixir med/lights (12-56) on mine when it went back to the factory (due back today as a matter of fact!) and they sounded great. Anyone ever try silk and steels on one of these? You all are right though,the 1537 is a fantastic piece of guitar flesh! :D
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-08-28 7:18 AM (#84161 - in reply to #84153)
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Seems as though after I've been away from a guitar for a while, when do pick-it back up, I hear it for what it is. My ear isn't "used" to the tone an longer... That happened all the time with my former 1537's. Once I got the wider nek'd guitars, they got a lot more play... and then, one day I'd pick up the 1537 and I'd say... "Damn, this guitar sounds good!"
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-28 7:31 AM (#84162 - in reply to #84153)
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Jeff, that happened last night with my FD14. I hadn't picked it up in a couple of weeks and last night it sounded great. I finally learned with that guitar that it's a fingerpickin' guitar, not a strummer. It's got Elixir phos/brone mediums on it and the tone for pickin' is just wonderful. Add in the wider neck and the satin cedar top and it's just sssoooo unlike anything else I have. It's a real treat to play....
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-08-28 7:45 AM (#84163 - in reply to #84153)
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Sounds like you've found the right combination. That's great.
My FD14 may still be the most played of all my guitars (though 83/47 gets a lot)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-08-28 7:46 AM (#84164 - in reply to #84153)
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and what the hell you doing up this early?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-28 7:50 AM (#84165 - in reply to #84153)
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Damned good question. Right now I'm going downstairs to get some coffee.....
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-08-28 7:53 AM (#84166 - in reply to #84153)
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That sounds good. I'll join you.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-08-28 7:54 AM (#84167 - in reply to #84153)
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No kidding. Moody, you're on California time. You're not supposed to be up for at least another 4 hours.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-28 7:59 AM (#84168 - in reply to #84153)
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Like you John. Come on over everybody. We'll have coffee then go wake up my wife. That'll scare the sh*t outta her.....
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-08-28 8:00 AM (#84169 - in reply to #84153)
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Much unlike the East Coast where we're up now but we don't actually do anything for the next four hours.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-08-28 8:57 AM (#84170 - in reply to #84153)
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Blah, Blah, Blah, ....

Moody posts this same damn topic about every 4 weeks. Either out of sheer boredom, or complete lack of imagination. He has a template:

"Today I picked up the (insert name here) and realized what a great guitar it is. If I could only own one guitar and this was it, I would feel very (insert "lucky" or "blessed"). I'm going to string it with some (insert name here)."

Dave
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-08-28 9:06 AM (#84171 - in reply to #84153)
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"Today I picked up the (Adamas) and realized what a great guitar it is. If I could only own one guitar and this was it, I would feel very ("blessed"). I'm going to string it with some (John Pearse 600L)."
Pauly
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-08-28 9:08 AM (#84172 - in reply to #84153)
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Oh by the way how did I do Dave?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-08-28 9:12 AM (#84173 - in reply to #84153)
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Maybe I need to spend more time on my strings. I have three or four dozen in the string drawer and I change strings only when the dead strings become noticeable, which means not just dead, but dead, dried up and buried. Plugged in, even dead strings can sound decent. Isn't that what effects are for? My current supply includes Adamas 1717s, 1818s, D'Addario EJ10s, 11s, EXPs, and some XLs for the 'lectrics, some DRs, a bunch of Fender lights, and maybe a few others that somehow come my way. The coated Elixers are expensive. When purchased in bulk, non-coated strings can easily be found for between $1 to $3 per set. Seems odd. Spend over two grand (or more) for the guitar, then put on a set of one dollar strings and continue playing them even when they're dead. Like I said, I need to concentrate more on string quality.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-28 9:14 AM (#84174 - in reply to #84153)
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Ok. Dave's convinced me. I'm going to stop posting now.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-08-28 9:24 AM (#84175 - in reply to #84153)
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cliff
Posted 2007-08-28 9:38 AM (#84176 - in reply to #84153)
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Dave;

You forgot to pepper the diatribe with the word "wonderful" . . .
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NostrAdamas
Posted 2007-08-28 9:59 AM (#84177 - in reply to #84153)
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Exp's first to go is the low E.... they will only last one week! Whats up with that?


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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-08-28 11:37 AM (#84178 - in reply to #84153)
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I have a vague memory (a more common experience at my age, I might add) of discussions of coated strings a few years ago when the concept was new. If I remember right (note the caveat), it was observed that the coated strings lose their brightness faster than noncoated, but then last a lot longer.

Maybe that's either in a parallel universe or the experience of my doppelganger....
:eek:
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-28 12:38 PM (#84179 - in reply to #84153)
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Paul, it's not that coated strings lose their brightness faster, it's that except for the phos/bronze Elixirs, they don't have the brightness to begin with. They sound like regular strings which have been played for a day or two (or for 30 seconds by Temp). But they keep that tone forever.
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cliff
Posted 2007-08-28 12:46 PM (#84180 - in reply to #84153)
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In essence, they sound like sh!t right outta th'box . . .
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Jeff
Posted 2007-08-28 2:08 PM (#84181 - in reply to #84153)
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Every set of EXPs I've ever tried has sounded dull within days. Elixers, on the other hand, sound great for months. Right now, I have Elixer P/B nano lights on all three of my all-wood guitars, and Elixer 80/20s on my GC Artist. As I've gotten older, I find my hands don't sweat as much, and I can squeeze four to six months of life out of a set of Elixers, as long as I change the plain strings every so often, since they're not coated.

BTW, I picked up my HD-28 today, and was reminded of what a great guitar it is. If it were the only steel string I had, I would.... oh wait, wrong forum! ;)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-28 3:03 PM (#84182 - in reply to #84153)
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I need to hit a few people......
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-08-28 3:10 PM (#84183 - in reply to #84153)
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I was wondering when that was going to happen.
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Joyful Noise
Posted 2007-08-28 3:42 PM (#84184 - in reply to #84153)
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I've been happy with Elixer nanowebs light or custom light for quite a while, so I keep using them. The last ones I bought were "New" and had B and High E strings that were plated with some nickel alloy of some kind or other. I really like these and think they are a great improvement. Now I suspect I'll be changing strings when the G string wears out instead of the high E.

Anyone else try these yet?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-08-28 3:49 PM (#84185 - in reply to #84153)
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Wear out a G string? Not likely here, but I can dream.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-08-28 7:36 PM (#84186 - in reply to #84153)
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Posted 2007-08-28 8:24 PM (#84187 - in reply to #84153)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I need to hit a few people......
Are you taking requests?
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-08-29 10:58 AM (#84188 - in reply to #84153)
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Originally posted by MusicMike:
Paul: :D :D :D :D ;)
Er.... which Paul? This thread is like the Borg; I'm One of Four.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-08-29 12:12 PM (#84189 - in reply to #84153)
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I think he meant moody. But for real I played my Adamas today and I cant help but say what an awesome guitar. Three years ago I asked about Ovation guitars as I was thinking about buying one and I was told about this board. Well not only did I get a great guitar I have met some incredible people. I have been encouraged to do things I never would have done otherwise like the CD, open mic at the tour, robbing that gas station. So to sum it all up Thank You for being You.
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Posted 2007-08-29 12:15 PM (#84190 - in reply to #84153)
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. . it was a convenience store (and we needed the money for more tequila).
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-29 12:17 PM (#84191 - in reply to #84153)
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Posted 2007-08-29 12:19 PM (#84192 - in reply to #84153)
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. . . ."it was a convenience store (and we needed the money for more tequila) . . .


. . . (and for Waskel's Feminine Care Products)
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Posted 2007-08-29 12:20 PM (#84193 - in reply to #84153)
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Posted 2007-08-29 12:23 PM (#84194 - in reply to #84153)
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Posted 2007-08-29 7:27 PM (#84195 - in reply to #84153)
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It's always that way, you fall back in love with the guitar you haven't played in a while. And then change strings and you really love it! Then move on to the next guitar.....
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Posted 2007-08-29 10:21 PM (#84196 - in reply to #84153)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I picked up my 1537 today and was reminded of what a great guitar it is. If it were the only steel string I had, I'd feel just fine about it.
Jeez, Paul. I come over to your place not 24 hours later, and the 1537 is nowhere to be seen. There was a Glen Campbell reissue, and old Legend, an FD14, and probably a couple of others out and about. But no 1537? Mr. Fickle. :cool:

The JL3 was definitely the best sounding guitar of the bunch. :D
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Posted 2007-08-30 9:37 AM (#84197 - in reply to #84153)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-08-30 11:35 AM (#84198 - in reply to #84153)
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Yes, I meant Moody...but I echo my fellow minister's sentiments about this forum/club/mental institution/(you fill in the blank)...I spend way too much time here but its always good for a laugh, learning something you didn't know, and the opportunity to get together from time to time and jam (Tour 07; Southern Jam 07; upcoming Amelia Island Clinic; etc.)...Lots of good memories: one of my favorite was Temp's mistaking his open ended glass slide for a shot glass at around 2am...great stuff! I have played Ovation products longer and more consistantly than any other brand and finding this forum and all of you has only added to the delight!


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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-08-30 11:58 AM (#84199 - in reply to #84153)
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Bobbo, my primary reason for not having the 1537 out was that I wanted to a/b your Lennon with the GC RI. The secondary reason was that I didn't want you to have buyer's remorse comparing the Lennon to the 1537.

In essence, I was being nice to a guest......
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Posted 2007-08-30 1:03 PM (#84200 - in reply to #84153)
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posted by moody "In essence, I was being nice to a guest"

It's good thing I have Hi-Tops. Paul you got me thinking as to how long ago did I change the strings on my Adamas, well its been awhile so I just put on some John Pearse Lts. And does she ever sound sound so beautiful.
Thanks Pauly
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-08-30 3:34 PM (#84201 - in reply to #84153)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
The secondary reason was that I didn't want you to have buyer's remorse comparing the Lennon to the 1537.

In essence, I was being nice to a guest......
Uh, Paul ... I already did that in the comfort of my own shack. No buyer's remorse at all. ;) I will say that all the guitars we had out all had their own sound. And the JL3 was the best. LOL.

And thank you, you indeed were a gracious host.

Pauly ... with moody it's hipwaders, not hightops.
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Posted 2007-08-30 3:50 PM (#84202 - in reply to #84153)
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