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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Had a late day golf tournament that SWMBO was not too happy with :( and then I played like crap :mad: which made me not very happy. So what do you do. :rolleyes:
I got home around 8:00 tonight and decided to check out the stereo set of modified Oktava MK-012 microphones that I had received on Friday :) (but hadn't really had time to check them out yet). The mics came with 4 capsules each and I just grabbed the first ones in the box so I don't know if they were the best for the job at hand or not. I pointed one mic at the soundhole and the other at the 12th fret, set the volumes and pushed the record button.
Anyway, after playing around for about 30 minutes, I remembered what fun a lot of us had when Dave presented a set of sound clips and asked us to identify the guitars :p ....so I decided to throw some together and play the game. :cool:
Now, this is not a test of my guitar playing ability because frankly, playing golf for 6 1/2 hours in the heat did not do my hands or my disposition any favors :o ....but the guitars sound the same whether I play worth a shit or not.....so here we go.
The 8 guitars in no particular order are:
Adamas #47RI
Tak EF75
Tak EF417S
Collings DS2HMhA
Taylor DDSM
Lowden S23C
Martin HD28VS
Ovation DS768
Since Dave threw in a ringer with the UKE, I did the same with the DS768.
I will let everyone take their best guess until tomorrow night and then let you know who is the closest and see if we can eventually come up with a winner over the next few days. I will award a prize if someone actually gets them all correct with less than 4 guesses :confused: (that means within 3 tries).
Now, on my Focal Twin6's, they sound pretty distinct and I can easily tell them apart but if you are listening over computer speakers, etc.....then all bets are off....they will probably all sound the same (except for the playing of course).
I recorded this over a 30 minute period so they are similar but not perfect and mistakes are prevalent throughout.....but they should serve the purpose for the contest.
ENJOY and GOOD LUCK!
Sample 1
Sample 2
Sample 3
Sample 4
Sample 5
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Location: Phoenix AZ | FUN !!! Thanks for doing this T28. Problem is, there's not a dog in the bunch. Unfortunately I'm stuck over here in euro land with nothing but laptop speakers. Can't possibly identify them all. But on 5/8 inch speakers buried inside a plastic IBM housing I like the sound of #3. Please god, don't let #3 be the Taylor or Mike will never let me hear the end of it.
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Location: SoCal | well, using cheap speakers on my PC...so take it in consideration.
4 sounds closer to the 47RI
5 closer to the OFC
6 closer to my Martin D-25K2 with old, old strings |
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Location: big island | my guesses:
1 #47
2 Tak EF75
3 Taylor
4 Tak EF417
5 Ovation
6 Martin
7 Lowden
8 Collings |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Well, the DS768 is sure easy to pick out. :D |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | 1-Taylor
2-Collings
3-47
4-Ef75
5-Longneck
6-Ef417
7-Lowden
8-Hd28 |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I love these comparos. Thanks for doing this, Stephen. I wish I had the recording gear to do the same with my eclectic mix. As was said before, there isn't a dog in the bunch, and I really had trouble depicting any that stood out. Sure you didn't just fiddle with the volume and tone knobs on your recorder? That said, I believe 1, 5 and 8 sounded a bit brighter and crisper, but all were nice. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | 1. 47
2. Martin
3. Tak 417
4. Tak EF75
5. Baritone O
6. Collings
7. Taylor
8. Lowden
Where do I collect my prize? |
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Location: NJ | They're all Taylors . . . |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I have never heard some of these guitars before..but no matter, here are my guesses:
Sample 1 : Collings DS2HMhA
Sample 2 : Tak EF417S
Sample 3 : Taylor DDSM
Sample 4 : Lowden S23C
Sample 5 : Adamas #47RI
Sample 6 : Ovation DS768
Sample 7 : Martin HD28VS
Sample 8 : Tak EF75
Kinda hard from Computer Speakers, but, right or wrong, this was fun!!
Thanks Steve! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mike, I thought about that after I worked up the samples....most of the readers are Ovation owners and won't be familiar with the other guitars.....
but a lot of us own the Taks and there are quite a few Martin players and Taylor haters....so I decided to run with it. I probably should have thrown in a 1581 and a FD14 but they weren't sitting out.
Anyway....here are the 1st day results.
Dave....you're safe.
Lanika.....2 of 8
Jeffery.....3 of 8
Trader Jim......5 of 8 (OUTSTANDING!)
MusicMike.......0 of 8 (how did you miss the baritone!)
Cliff.....1 of 8 (thanks for the hard work you put into it)
SO, no prize yet.....and remember that the Lowden and Tak 417 are both parlor sized guitars.
I am curious who will be able to figure this out now through the process of elimination. The wabbit, the waskel, the slipkid, or some other unknown who will step forth to claim the prize! |
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Location: big island | tj must have good computer speakers. waytago jim! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | 1.47
2.Taylor
3.Tak-417
4.Tak-75
5.LongNeck
6. Collings
7.Lowden
8. Martin |
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Location: big island | 1. 47
2. Taylor
3. EF75
4. EF417
5. "O"bvious
6. Collings
7. Lowden
8. Martin |
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Location: Texas | 1. 47
2. Taylor
3. Tak 417
4. Tak EF75
5. Baritone O
6. Collins
7. Martin
8. Lowden |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | MusicMike.......0 of 8 (how did you miss the baritone!)
A. I didn't even see the tenor...
B. I had just returned from a bad day at Golf! (Really!)
C. Never heard nor have I seen a longneck...
D. They all sounded the same through my 8 year old computer speakers...
I'll think of additional excuses later...
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Location: big island | several of the clips sound extremely similar. i played my EF75 along with stephen's #2 and #3 clips and the sound quality was so close to mine as heard over the speakers. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Yes they do sound similar which is not surprising since they are all high end guitars and the #47 holds its head high against the "holy grail" woodbacks. Live, the guitars all have subtle but significant differences and sitting in front of them with your eyes closed (after listening to them with your eyes opened), I think the guitars would be easier to distinguish.
NEW RESULTS.....
After a major revamp Jeffery is 3 of 8 (just like last time :p )
Lanika has improved to 3 of 8 :)
Vision has a vision :cool: with 4 of 8
Trader Jim is still kicking ass with his original picks! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Those of you listening through computer speakers should try hearing the samples through headphones. Might make a major difference in what you hear. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | HINT:
The one sample that everyone has guess correctly at one time or another is the TAK EJ75.
The one guitar that no one has gotten correct is the Martin HD28VS |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by stephent28:
HINT:
The one sample that everyone has guess correctly at one time or another is the TAK EJ75.
except for lanaki, who owns one! :D |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Oppps....your right....my bad. ;)
NOW, it is obvious that #4 is the TAK 75 and #5 is the DS768 baritone.
Also, I blew it with Jeff the first go round.
He had 4 correct but has gone downhill based on my poor scoring.
Still waiting for that winner! |
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Location: big island | last try:
1. 47
2. lowden
3. EF417
4. EF75
5. O
6. martin
7. taylor
8. collings |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Sample 1 : Adamas #47RI
Sample 2 : Taylor DDSM
Sample 3 : Tak EF417S
Sample 4 : Tak EF75
Sample 5 : Ovation DS768
Sample 6 : Lowden S23C
Sample 7 : Martin HD28VS
Sample 8 : Collings DS2HMhA |
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Location: big island | whoops! i initially put the martin at #6 and did it again. i'm out. next??? |
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Location: Texas | 1. 47
2. Taylor
3. Tak 417
4. Tak 75
5. Baritone O
6. Collins
7. Martin
8. Lowden |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | 1. Outstanding
2. Excellent
3. Wow!
4. Superior
5. Great
6. Wonderful
7. Beautiful
8. Superb |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Stephen, do try to check this correctly this time.
1. 47
2. Collings
3. Martin
4. 75
5. longneck
6. 417
7. Taylor
8. Lowden |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Stephen, do try to check this correctly this time.
:D :rolleyes: :D |
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Location: South of most, North of few | 1. 47
2. Martin
3. 417
4. EF 75
5. Longneck
6. Taylor
7. Lowden
8. Collings
Probably screwed up my score with this one... |
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Location: SoCal | I've got a hunch which one was the 47, but all this really told me was that it competes with the big boys... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I hear chickens.... lots of them... bwalk-bwalk-BaGEEEE |
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Location: South of most, North of few | 1. 47
2. Taylor
3. 417
4. EF 75
5. longneck
6. Martin
7. Collings
8. Lowden
Last try..... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
1. Outstanding
2. Excellent
3. Wow!
4. Superior
5. Great
6. Wonderful
7. Beautiful
8. Superb :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
The Professor got all 8 correct!
Job well done but to award the prize I need just a bit more information :D . |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Congrats Jeff!?? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Congrats Jeff!?? . . . ?
T28 is evil.
Actual answers are:
Warrior
Danelectro
Viper
FD14 ( why it wasn't included in the choices mystifies me)
Baxendale
Ovation LongNeck
Martin-Norman Blake
Celebrity |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Ah, it's the celeb that threw me off.....
Sure there isn't an Applause in there?? :D |
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Location: Texas | I am confused - who won???? |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I think we're all confused here.... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by vision:
I am confused - who won???? Did you not read, "T28 is evil"?
... (BTW, Vision, this has nothing to do with my obnoxious response to your "Marketing" post) |
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Location: Texas | What obnoxious marketing post? :) Maybe I need to go back and read it again - awww never mind - it has over one hundred post. LOL |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Sorry guys...but SWMBO must be obeyed and made me leave before I could post the results!
~FINAL TALLY's
Trader Jim.....changed and dropped to 3 of 8 :eek:
...........changed again and finished 4 of 8 :(
Vision changed and remained at 4 of 8 :p
Jeff made a noble effort but mixed up the Danelectro and Warrior :mad:
Lanika shouldn't have even played! (but I'm glad you did) :D
MusicMike made a inspiring comeback...3 of 8 ;)
and the ultimate winner is.....Jeffery.....
MAYBE....who posted some answers and then emailed me with different answers. One set is correct and one isn't.
So Mr. Whitehead.....in order to ultimately claim first place, bragging rights, and an unbelievable prize....you need to decide which guess is your 3rd and final answer.
The one you posted: :rolleyes:
1. 47
2. Collings
3. Martin
4. 75
5. longneck
6. 417
7. Taylor
8. Lowden
or the one you emailed: :rolleyes:
1. 47
2. Collings
3. Martin
4. 75
5. longneck
6. 417
7. Lowden
8. Taylor |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by vision:
What obnoxious marketing post? :) You, too, are evil |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Great Fun!
Glad I got the first one right since I own one...
BTW: The 47 was THE BEST SOUNDING CLIP!!!!!!
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW AWESOME THESE GUITARS ARE?
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I would like every member of the OFC to take a moment here and appreciate the irony of my last guess coming down to Lowden or Taylor..... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | 1. 47
2. Collings
3. Martin
4. 75
5. longneck
6. 417
7. Lowden
8. Taylor |
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Location: SoCal | Can't do anything about hearling loss...looks like I need better speakers. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I would like every member of the OFC to take a moment here and appreciate the irony of my last guess coming down to Lowden or Taylor..... and since you own a Lowden it is amazing that you would F it up. :(
Guess I'm off the hook for that fabulous all expense paid Matt Smith guitar clinic on Amelia Island in March 08.
The correct answers are:
1. 47
2. Collings
3. Martin
4. 75
5. longneck
6. 417
7. Taylor
8. Lowden |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by stephent28:
Lanika shouldn't have even played! (but I'm glad you did) :D
i don't feel bad. hey, i'm just a sheltered island boy. :D
it was entertaining and ear provoking, stephen. mahalo! |
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Location: big island | perhaps i should get a #47. it's the only one i got right, besides the "O"bvious. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by lanaki:
perhaps i should get a #47. Makes a great companion to the 75! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My original post on this topic (way back at the top of page 1) is in hind sight pretty interesting. Maybe I DO know what like after all.
Dave |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ShutUp Witko! You're a pussy... (I mean that in the bad way).
Stephen is the LoveChild of Satan and Dick Cheney
I hate you all and I'm never posting here again. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Jeff, back on the meds please. ;) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I hate you all and I'm never posting here again. After years and over 8000+ posts, should we consider this a blessing in disguise? ;) |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Stephen, here is my last guess....
1. 47
2. Collings
3. Martin
4. 75
5. longneck
6. 417
7. Taylor
8. Lowden
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Clever Jim, but unfortunately you guessed twice in a row after the initial entry so this is your 4th try.
Correct but too late :D
and just to prevent some other clever OFCer....
Contest is officially closed! |
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Location: closely held secret | Is it too late for me to guess? |
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Location: SoCal | Why no John. Go ahead.... |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Is it too late for me to guess? go ahead and guess, john. we'll watch. just make sure you are only guessing. |
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Location: closely held secret | 1. Stephen
2. Stephen
3. Stephen
4. Stephen
5. Stephen
6. Stephen
7. Stephen
8. Stephen |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | :D :D :D |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Sorry I didn't have time to play. As the winner of the last one done by Dave, I will gladly give up my prize for Jeff to treasure as I have. If I can find it, let me know where to send the book of Uke chords.
I will try to listen with an unbiased ear. I remember that on Dave's, the one I thought sounded best was the 1537 and the worst was one of his Martins. |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Speaking of a bad day of Golf. We had a guy in Madison get struk and killed last week on one of the City courses. Here is what's left of his push cart. There are a rew more pictures in my gallery  |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Bill, did you forget to post the pic? |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Let's try this again.  |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | By the way, top center, amber colored blob is what's left of a ball. |
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Location: big island | whew! what was in the ball that struck him? :eek: |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | made in China, no doubt. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | HAPPY FUN BALL, or lightning? Do not taunt happy fun ball. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Should'a played the 1 iron.
"Even god can't hit a 1 iron."
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Location: South of most, North of few | The last time I hit a couple of good balls was when I stepped on a rake in the garage... |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | This is from one of the cops at the scene:
... lightning bolt minutes later struck his bag and push cart as he was holding onto one of his clubs killing him instantly...on the top of the first photo you will see what was left of his driver....also in a later photo are little brown clumps now only ¼" thick which used to be golf balls....The old man was literally cooked. Most of the items in the bag simply disintegrated from the heat and intense initial zap including the labels to his ping irons and Cleveland woods which popped off and the electricity burned holes into the bottoms of the clubs. |
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