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Location: Munich, Germany | First of all, I just wanted to let you have a look at a picture I made at a meeting of Karl's and my Adamas guitars. (To bad there is the 100kb-limitation - the picture in high resolution looks great!)
Second - did you know there is a German Edition of the #47 RI and the OFC guitar?
I didn't know either - since Karl,p.i. pointed me towards it:
There is one small "mistake" in the "german editions" - that no other guitar of these two series has.
It took me very long to notice it - but it is quite good to see.
So, let's start the quiz: Where is the mistake?
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Location: Munich, Germany | Good eyes, Dave!
But that's not the "mistake".
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | I do n`t even know ,what is what... :)
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Location: Munich, Germany | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
No Burst/ Gold flake (looks like a blue Academy top) Jeff, that is only because of the poor resolution of the picture. That's not the mistake.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Oh Kurt,was it you who has that website that shows the different Ovation bracings and related info. ??... :)
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Location: Munich, Germany | Originally posted by Solid Top aka Enfant Terrible:
Oh Kurt,was it you who has that website that shows the different Ovation bracings and related info. ??... :)
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..your friendly neighbor from the North.. Nope. But the link in my signature brings you to this site - Jerome's "ovationtribute.com" - where you will find the info you are looking for.
Edit: And a look on Dave's page will bring you the same information.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | It's not lefthanded? |
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Location: Munich, Germany | No, righthanded. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Kurt...vielen dank..du bist ja ein echter freund.. :)
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | enhanced white lines in the epis? |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Not bad, Jim. But that's not it.
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | headstock is different Kurt. Doesn't have the two Arrow heads, just one? |
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Location: Munich, Germany | No, sorry Jim. The arrows are there - you just can't see them because of the poor resolution.
The mistake is much better to see.
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Location: closely held secret | Kurt, I have to keep reminding myself you're German. When you say, "The mistake is much better to see" do you mean it's easier to see or it's a good thing to see? |
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Location: Tychy, Poland | maybe they put too light strings on it? |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Waskel, I meant it is even good to see although the picture has that poor resolution.
And - when you found it - you will always see it.
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Location: Munich, Germany | Little Boy, how would you see that on a photograph?
But, to be serious, when Karl gave me that little quiz - it nearly took me half an hour to find it - with the guitar in my hands. But, as I said, it is clearly to see.
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Location: SoCal | The only thing that I can spot is the woods in the epaulets are different from mine. I don't know what else.... |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Wow, that's impressive. Moody, p.i., I was counting on you!
It's a similarity between the two "German Editions" - and this makes them different to all the others.
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Location: closely held secret | Well, he does make his living looking for insignificant details...
Nice job, Paul! |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | I tried comparing a few pictures...but apparently was comparing two German A's...go figure. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Does he get a prize? :D |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Originally posted by Gospel Guitar Guy:
Does he get a prize? :D I did not talk to Al - but I am sure he would love to custom order one of that very special "German Editions" on demand and cost of the winner.
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Here are pics of the Epis on #5 - the woods look identical - the white lines are a little different:
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Location: Munich, Germany | Okay, I think we have a winner!
Congrats, CrimsonLake!
On the bass epaulette there is one white stripe missing. We checked all the #47's and OFC's on jerome's site - ours were the only ones that had that little imperfection. So we think the factory did this on purpose - to create the very special "German Edition".
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Kurt - actually, it's also the lines between the largest hole and the one under it - on yours, it's 4 small straight lines, on mine it's 2 diagonal lines. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Now I see . there is a special "Crimson Edition" as well. even more worthy than the "german Edition", as it seems. After a short look on Jerome's site all the guitars I looked at had those four stripes.
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Kurt - they're ALL equally worthy. I bet if we look hard enough, we can find something unique in each one of them.
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Ridiculous topic :) ...they're all hand painted, not machine stamped. I would hope no two are alike!
You need to stop looking so close and play more Kurt :D
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Location: Munich, Germany | Tim, it is not the point that the stripes are different on all these guitars. The painter missed to make the same line on only two "known" guitars - and they both went to germany.
These two ARE alike! They are the "German Edition". More worthy than the guitars that stayed at home.
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | blaugh
Mine MUST be worth more, they both have a serial number 9 on the label :p
Actually, your's would have depreciated...since they were shipped out of the country from New Jersey :eek: |
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Location: CT | OK, I'll let the cat out of the bag. Someone just ran out of white paint towards quitting time on a Friday. It's American tradition on a Friday to just go home rather than do a little extra work, but we in America, and in particular, the international feel good people at Kaman, know how much the Germans appreciate tradition, so you are the lucky new owners of these fine paintless wonders. :D |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Actually, in keeping with the German working tradition of drinking beer during breaks and taking bunches of time off for holidays, the luthiers at Ovation decided to quit early and go have a beer instead of finishing the German guitars. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nobody likes a good conspiracy theory better than me, but how would the factory know in advance that these specific guitar were germany bound? Dave |
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Location: closely held secret | The accent, Dave... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Scotland | My 47RI has the label attached with what Paul Moody assures me is not glue, but is actually bodily fluids from Glen Campbell. Apparently the "taste test" is conclusive. So there. |
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Location: SoCal | Temp, I was just repeating what Kim told me..... |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Nobody likes a good conspiracy theory better than me, but how would the factory know in advance that these specific guitar were germany bound? Dave Hint 1: Karl's OFC was one of the widenecks - ordered through Al - and he knew that Karl would get it.
My #47-82 was built on demand of the german dealer - because the first one they sent for me was full of flaws. So they knew where they were going.
Hint 2: Karl's #47 does have the white stripe that his OFC is missing - because Al had this guitar on stock - the factory did not know where it was going.
Hint 3: If you count through the alphabet - O=15, F=6, C=3, then 47 and 82, add those numbers:
15+6+3+47+82 = 153. So take those numbers and build the total of the digits of the number: 9!
That is exactly the number of Adamas guitars Karl and me had together at that moment.
Hint 4: Karl's OFC is number 10! That is exactly the amount of Adamas guitars we have now, counted together.
Dave, is that proof enough?
Believe it - there is a special "German Edition"!
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Location: SoCal | Kurt, you ever think about maybe getting some therapy? Modern medicine can do wonders with delusions like yours.
Not that there's anything wrong with that..... |
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Location: Munich, Germany | And since I am very bad in maths and that took me a whole lot of work to make this waterproof - I'll take a break - and have a beer!
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Location: Munich, Germany | Moody, I am quite sure these delusions come from my medication. Maybe I should stop taking those pills...
Uh, forgot my beer...
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Hint 5: I will stop this now and go to bed - with post number "247" - 1187-247!
Enough said!
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Other than the lack of the white divider line, I guess I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference between the epis on the above OFC model and those on No. 5. There may be a slight variation in the stain color or gradation in one or two of the wood types, but the difference is slight and insignificant. The absence of the painted line is also insignificant. Personally, I like the charm of very small differences between these various model versions. These instruments are all hand-made. Differences are expected and, to my way of thinking, welcome. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm sure Kurt is enjoying the uniqueness of his special "German Edition" OFC and 47s too. If not, send them over here and we'll figure out how to get the little white lines drawn in. It will probably take awhile. Be sure and send the carbon fiber case with the OFC, since I'm still waiting on one of those. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I just noticed one other small variance. On Kurt's OFC model, the two small holes closest to the end of the epaulet are connected by a white line. On OFC No. 5, as well as on the 47RI pictured above, there is no white line between these same two holes. Just one more small variance between different models of these great guitars. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | know what comes before the letter 'A' in the alphabet ???
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Location: Germany | Prof, you´re right! I´ve checked the pictures of some 47RIs and OFCs and it seems that only OFC #9 and #10 have the small holes connected with a white line. Maybe it´s a special wide neck feature. Dave? I love to see these variations between the guitars. Nothing to worry about but shows that they are made by humans and not by machines.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Charlie Ramon:
it seems that only OFC #9 and #10 have the small holes connected with a white line. Maybe it´s a special wide neck feature. Dave? I refuse to go look. This is stupid. I don't need to examime every single pubic hair to know that I enjoy sex.
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | here, here !!! I agree ;) |
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Location: NJ | ". . I don't need to examime every single pubic hair to know that I enjoy sex . ."
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that one would just be TOO "easy" . . . |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Interesting analogy from Dave, considering that he got all bent out of shape when some guy missed the hole with his screw. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ever notice that it's the quiet guys that always end up making you laugh the hardest ???
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PS Mark, later this year looks like my S&M region (shut up Cliff, that's SALES & MARKETING) will expand to include Boise. It's a typical HR strategy, give you more and more responsibility until you finally get fed up and quit. But I might as well enjoy it while I can, right? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The law business is all about analogies. It's fun when you can pervert one. There's a lot of Beavis and Butthead in all of us.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Charlie Ramon:
Prof, you´re right! I´ve checked the pictures of some 47RIs and OFCs and it seems that only OFC #9 and #10 have the small holes connected with a white line. Maybe it´s a special wide neck feature. Dave? For what it's worth ... #8, the third of the three widenecks also has the white line connecting the small holes.
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