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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1478
Location: Michigan | just sitting here checking out some of the websites i used to get involved in quite a bit in my middle ages and now only maybe once every couple of weeks to try to stay up on some of latest poop and to see if any of the long time and older timers are still around and just watching the posts and not posting?
i just see that there are still maybe a handful of people that i still remember just by their names and never have met them but have a feeling of being good neighbors anyway , so i just wondered if there are any of you long timers still out there could you just check back in for a hello i;m still around. that would be great and also if you know of some of the old timers please give us an update on them.
i am going to put some old timers on the list i remember but haven't heard from
lanaki
damon
muzza
popcritic
captainlovehandles
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 566
Location: Denmark | I am not an old timer, but I check in here almost daily as OFC is my favorite forum mainly populated by nice people. |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1802
Location: When?? | GWB.. I am 10 years junior to your presence on the OFC, but definitely an old timer in terms of Ovationlore. I think a lot of OFC oldsters are still around, and living the same guitar lives as always, but in terms of online communication I sadly feel that many-- as with much of society-- have become accustomed to the pocket app"tweet" methods of connecting in lieu of actually composing a "post" on a static website. "Sadly" being the operative word of my point. Or maybe "from my dead, cold hands" in terms of the keyboard on my desk would better represent a personal sentiment to the whole scenario. It seems the less that people communicate in detail and with forged intent, the more we may as well just regress back to playing with cans and string. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | I think there are more of the old guard and usual suspects around than you might think. But the world and how we communicate has changed a lot. This forum was once pretty much the only game in town for all things Ovation. But now it seems the infoverse is fragmented into a large number of ever more specific Ovation subcultures each with their own slant on things. I do believe I saw a Facebook group called "Fans Of Sunburst Ovation Tornado Guitars With Hairline Surface Checking".
I am happy to report that I still do cross paths (in person or virtually) with a number of the folks I met during the first 2-3 years of this forums existence. And quite a few of those relationships will last until both parties cease to exist.
If you have a question or comment (What brand of strings should I use ... How much is my guitar worth ... Ovation sighting ... etc) just put that letter in the mailbox and make sure you include a self addressed stamped envelope. You'll hear from me.
Edited by Standingovation 2024-01-16 8:42 PM
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Joined: April 2011 Posts: 119
Location: NH | I think many of the “old timers” left in the 2012 (approx) exodus never to return. Combine that with the advent of FB, this place was effectively turned into a museum. Unless you have nothing better to do but post in the Insomniac Quiz. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | Guitsome - 2024-01-16 7:06 PM
I think many of the “old timers” left in the 2012 (approx) exodus never to return. Combine that with the advent of FB, this place was effectively turned into a museum. Unless you have nothing better to do but post in the Insomniac Quiz.
Really? Never to return? That's a little extreme.....
What Witko said...... |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3612
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Probably not as raucous as in the past, but still active & faithful to the cause. Interests and time changes. I do note the proliferation of more discussion in different venues to which I have devoted attention & participation. This is still the relevant & original fan site. Continued thanks to Miles for stewardship, too! |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987
Location: Upper Left USA | I check daily and it is always good to hear from all y'all.
Where is the Like button? |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755
Location: Boise, Idaho | I still check in almost every day, but don't feel compelled to post a reply. Old age might have something to do with it, although I see a lot of old people posting nonsense on other forums. I came here after the "old timers" who were around in the first 2 to 3 years because they were the best, or only, source of information about Ovations on the internet. I agree with Witko, but personally there have been a number of life changes that take my time, some I consider wasteful, other than Ovations. I am down to 19 of them now and don't want any more. I just want to play the ones I have. This forum was my motivation for doing so 15 years ago and I haven't really found a replacement. |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 599
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | Hello, Everyone,
I check out this forum almost every day since I joined, but I also don't feel compelled to post something on it, because always I'm looking at what's for sale in the world of OVATION guitars. I've always described my activity here as, "lurking in the background", and I've met many great people, and learned tons of information through my participation on this site. Am I another, "old timer?" By now, I'd say so, because I played my first OVATION guitar in 1969. However, if we're just considering time on this forum, others were here way before me. Most recently, I tried to reach the Ren-Ovation page on FB for repairs on my guitar but got nowhere fast. I'll keep posting here as long as this forum remains viable, and I'll keep playing my OVATION guitar until they put me in the ground.
Mike S.
Ottawa, ON.,
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 230
Location: Pewaukee, WI | Not an old-timer, but I did attend the 2007 Trebuchet event, and check in frequently. And still buying Ovations. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4044
Location: Utah | I check in almost daily. I'm also a member of a few Ovation groups on FaceBook where there is a lot of chatter, but mostly not terribly interesting.
Damon is still around and still actively dealing in Ovation, Adamas, Peavey, BC Rich, and who knows what else. |
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Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3618
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Not here as often, but still checking in occaisionally |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5330
Location: Cicero, NY | Still here as well and will probably always will be. SO's definitely right about there's more around than you might think and other outlets may have watered this one down a little bit but I still think it's the premier source of everything Ovation. The knowledge that's here in the archives may never be matched anywhere. |
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Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4226
Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I still come and go, and that is unlikely to change. But as time has progressed, I've found I have less to say, and I spend less time online in general than I used to. FWIW, I still get an occasional kick out of digging through the archives here. The sheer wealth of knowledge, experience, and entertainment buried here is pricelss! |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3612
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | "The knowledge that's here in the archives may never be matched anywhere."
Yep. |
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 230
Location: Pewaukee, WI | I spent Christmas vacation reading old postings, starting as far back as I could go without hitting the archives (2009 I think) and working my way forward. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | Randy22 - 2024-01-24 12:08 PM
I spent Christmas vacation reading old postings, starting as far back as I could go without hitting the archives (2009 I think) and working my way forward.
Go back into the archives. We had a lot of fun 2002-2007...... |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 1132
Location: Parrish, FL | Still around. Check in every few days, lurking to what’s up and what’s for sale. Fondly remember the early days. |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1555
Location: Indiana | Still here. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7222
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Well I'm here... We get on average at least one new member signing up each day. Sometimes they post, sometimes they don't. Sometimes more than one. But, there are still people knocking at the door which is nice. 23+ years and still going. |
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Joined: June 2005 Posts: 489
Location: California | +1 |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1478
Location: Michigan | I gotta say that I went back into the archives the other night and spent hours going thru a ton of posts .
This website had an answer for anything Ovation related and a crazy group of family members who used to have a whole bunch of fun and laughs about our lives and guitars adventures.
I spent another 3-4 nights going thru all of the old forum posts and I have not laughed so hard at some of the posts since the days they were put out.
A great reminder of all of the good times had by a bunch of strangers who at first only had a brand of guitar that brought them to this website.
A lasting tribute to Miles & Al for creating such a gem, GREAT JOB guys.
I'm curious thou ,
Hey Al
I am curious When is the last time you had to give someone a VACATION ? |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7222
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | guitarwannabee,
I know you didn't ask me, but the last time we had to give someone a vacation was likely just before OMA (may he rest in peace) took over the "Welcome Center". Up to the actual day he passed, he was the gatekeeper here only letting in the proper type of riff-raff. He is sorely missed.
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1555
Location: Indiana | He is missed.
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1478
Location: Michigan | Miles I was going to ask if there is anything on the OFC website in regards to deceased OFC members?
After I spent time in the Archives Forum It really made we wonder who has passed from the from the OFC.
Not trying to sound grim but I always like to look back and think about members we knew from this website who aren't with us ( in body ) but still a fresh memory of them. |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 162
Location: Pittsburgh | I still check in once in a while. Also still quietly enjoying my 2002 FD-14 and 1981 Balladeer. |
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Joined: July 2015 Posts: 118
Location: New Britain, Ct | I check in now and then - I feel lucky that I live in CT. and was able to visit the Ovation factory in New Hartford when they were open , I have 3 made in CT, and my favorite is the model s771 balladeer special which is also the cheapest I own , I brought guitar to the factory to have the neck reset and they upgraded the bridge and pickup for free- the guitar is now the most amazing I have ever played. |
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 230
Location: Pewaukee, WI | Going through the 20074 archive first. This should take me years. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5330
Location: Cicero, NY | Randy22 - 2024-02-08 11:59 AM
Going through the 20074 archive first. This should take me years.
...and it will be time well spent (you know, if you appreciate top level knowledge and expertise of front line members sprinkled with dibs of "...it was unbelievable if you were there..." and drabs of "...I can't believe he SAID (or did) that!". Good times... |
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Joined: October 2014 Posts: 270
| What was the 2012 exodus and why? |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7222
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | BCam - 2024-02-08 5:01 PM What was the 2012 exodus and why?
It wasn't so much an exodus, but not sure how to describe it. Between 2004 and 2015 Ovation was sold TWICE and the first sale to Fender Musical Instrument Corp resulted in them shutting down the factory. Also, Facebook came into its own and "forums" were beginning to wane. To this day, forums hold historical knowledge and that hasn't been able to be replicated with the exception of dedicated sites. But community-based knowledge forums took a huge hit. Essentially there are now community "sharing" which is social media, and community forums which are brand/topic based.
There are brand or topic based groups on facebook but they are generally a disaster with larger ones needing teams of moderators to not only help stay on track, but to thwart those who only want to derail or worse, just spam. I belong to a few, and it's fun to watch the trainwreck of 100's of people, every day, posting the equal of "what strings should I use." Not to mention another 100 posts that a team of moderators generally stay on top of, that are working to steal personal information, providing click-bait to steal information and identity theft or ransomware attacks, it's quite the jungle. |
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Joined: October 2014 Posts: 270
| Thanks for the info. I agree with your assessment. With a few exceptions I've found FB brand based user groups to be pretty useless.
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 566
Location: Denmark | Mr. Ovation - 2024-02-08 8:17 AM
... and "forums" were beginning to wane. To this day, forums hold historical knowledge and that hasn't been able to be replicated with the exception of dedicated sites. But community-based knowledge forums took a huge hit.... It has been an interesting journey which ended when the commercialists took over the internet from the enthusiasts.
Probably the global event events that affected all this were https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932008_financial_crisis.
One other guitar related forum which I attended completely changed from one day to the next. It was Everythingsg. When I found it it was a website about SG guitars - a true treasurepit with scans of old brochures and descriptions of model variants and historic listing of famous players. This site also had a members forum as one of its offerings. Suddenly all background/history knowledge related information was gone, the forum software was changed which lost much accumulated user supplied knowledge, leaving only the forum without the idea, providing only a service which may be better provided by other sites.
There are a still a few enthusiasm borne sites/forums left and I enjoy them as long as they are around. OFC is one of them. To me it is better with a relevant topic once a week than 10 irrelevant topics daily, but I suppose we all have different needs :-)
Edited by tpa 2024-02-09 4:39 PM
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1802
Location: When?? | +1 to above comments by both Mr. Ovation and TPA.
I first came to the OFC sometime around 2005 or so, under the screen name "Spruce Moose".. but very rarely used it, and it must have fallen off the member list due to attrition. So I came back in 2016 as LOF, and have participated pretty much daily since.
I don't use any of the other social media providers for Ovation topics as I early found them to be so diluted with irrelevant matter, one-liner nothings, and in-your-face content blither, so I cannot much say first hand what does and doesn't happen there these days.
Buried somewhere on the OFC site is a link to donate, but you have to dig to find it. I try to use it once per year for at least a token pitch-in, and/or otherwise when I buy a guitar or gear from a member that was posted for sale here. In fact, I think I'm gonna go dig it out right now.. and meantime maybe admin can find a place to post it in a more openly visible spot. I believe that the regulars here truly appreciate the service of a reliable style and method of communicating about our Ovation passion and ongoing friendships. It's where the serious grown-ups still come to mingle.
Bottom line for myself personally-- I love it here! So thank you, Miles, for taking such good care of us!
PS:: here is the donation link--
https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=S23QL6...
It accepts both PayPal and regular credit/debit.
Edited by Love O Fair 2024-02-10 1:22 AM
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7222
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | guitarwannabee - 2024-02-06 11:32 PM Miles I was going to ask if there is anything on the OFC website in regards to deceased OFC members? There are certainly mentions in the forums, but that's about it. I think an "in memorium" would just make the Internet cry. |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3612
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | LOF: "It's where the serious grown-ups still come to mingle."
Thanks, but pretty generous, por moi.
And, "in memorium". I don't find that particularly necessary, either. I have my selective memories, anyway.
True, the other sites have differing vibes & pace. There is some good info at Renovation. I'm a diehard BFLG'er, so anything about restoration and repair is interesting & valuable.
Carry on. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3410
Location: GA USA | Howdy! I check in once in a while. Not often enough.
I still have two Elites, the Viper and the Deacon.
Just added my 5th grandchild the other day, so I definitely qualify as an old timer.
Hope all is well with you, GWB, and the rest of you codgers.
Jas
Edited by Captain Lovehandles 2024-02-20 1:53 PM
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4044
Location: Utah | Congrats on the new grandchild, Captain! |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3410
Location: GA USA | Thank you kindly. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I don’t come here every day as I don’t really have much to contribute, but I do stop by now and then. Lots of friends and acquaintances over the years for sure. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | We're not completely dead... |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1555
Location: Indiana | I get it that some won't do facebook. But there's a tremendous Ovation interest there. Numerous groups now.
Lots of newbies who love the brand and old guys who are connecting with fellow fans for the first time.
Actually kind of amazing... to me at least. |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6994
Location: Jet City | I still have a few Ovations Now I'm off to go find this "Fans Of Sunburst Ovation Tornado Guitars With Hairline Surface Checking" group |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3410
Location: GA USA | I'm a fan of that. I did a temporary swap with M.Lobosco once and enjoyed his Tornado. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1478
Location: Michigan | speaking of one of the old timers from the ofcer's has anyone heard anything from cliff ? |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3612
Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Active on at least one of the Facebook Ovation venues. |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1118
Location: NW Washington State | January 2006- am I an old timer? Starting to feel like one in other areas of life. I have too many guitars, considering that I noodle a few minutes each day, Also too many parts since I'm not building or fixing much.
-Steve W.
edit: 1111 posts! Should I quit now?
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 286
Location: North Idaho | Still coming around from time to time. Stroke took me out in 2012 and hard to come back. Good to see familiar names along with new ones. |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4827
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | MWoody - 2024-01-17 8:07 Where is the Like button? This!! I wasn't around for a while due to a career change where I was out of an office environment (and road trips) and back into retail, working a sales floor. I thought I was keeping half an eye on everyone via Fbook where I'd see some of the old faces once in a while, which does leave one with the (false) sense of staying in touch. Now I'm retired and the world is just drifting away without me, and I'm good with that. Miss the old Gatherings... are they still happening anywhere?
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Well, I played golf yesterday with a person I met 15+ years ago at a gathering. It was so long ago that we weren't sure if we had actually met or not. Didn't matter, we hit off like brothers and had a stonking good time. I guess the lesson is to stay connected, because we never know when the plug will get pulled for good. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | Mr. Ovation - 2024-02-08 11:17 PM
To this day, forums hold historical knowledge and that hasn't been able to be replicated with the exception of dedicated sites. Miles, reading this got me thinking. There is so much information in the archives that would be lost forever if something happened to this site. Is there any way to retrieve it and place it on a huge memory stick? I'd pay money for something like that and I'd bet that I'm not the only one. We had a lot of fun in the first 5 years on this forum...... Edited by moody, p.i. 2024-04-24 10:44 PM
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