1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack
ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-20 8:55 AM (#80918)
Subject: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack



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While setting up for rehearsal last night, I pulled a patch cord out of one of the effects pedals and discovered the tip of the 1/4 plug was still inside the output jack with no apparent way for convenient extraction. Since the tip was connected to the plug shaft by pressure, I jammed the plug back into the output and apparently managed to remake a connection as it worked fine. Any ideas on how to remove the plug tip short of pulling the unit apart? Maybe some jeweler’s needle nose pliers?
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-20 9:01 AM (#80919 - in reply to #80918)
Subject: Re: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack


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straight, long-nosed roach-clip (uh, . . I mean hemostat).
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-20 9:02 AM (#80920 - in reply to #80918)
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. . . or get Pamela to suck it out.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-20 9:10 AM (#80921 - in reply to #80918)
Subject: Re: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack



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Aw Professor, Sorry. But you have listed you two choices.

If you can see inside the hollow-part of the jack-pin, mebbe you can stick a small screwdriver tip in there, tilt for tension, and pull.

Good Luck!
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-20 9:13 AM (#80922 - in reply to #80918)
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Is it THAT hard t'open up the pedal??
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-20 9:24 AM (#80923 - in reply to #80918)
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Originally posted by cliff:
Is it THAT hard t'open up the pedal??
Play nice! I wouldn't wanna open my Zoom G1X.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-09-20 9:25 AM (#80924 - in reply to #80918)
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step fast and hard onto the pedal
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-20 11:29 AM (#80925 - in reply to #80918)
Subject: Re: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack



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The pedal is a Digitech multi, not one of those nice small Boss units. I can see lots of small electronic thingies jumping out and disappearing behind the work bech as I split the cases, so I'll open it up only as a last resort. Old Man, that's a great idea about the screwdriver. Also, what about dabbing a little super glue on the cable now protruding about 1/16" out of the end of the 1/4 plug and jamming it back into the tip, assuming I use it sparingly and don't make a mess out of the jack's internals?
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an4340
Posted 2007-09-20 11:43 AM (#80926 - in reply to #80918)
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It might be worth opening, just to see what's inside.
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alpep
Posted 2007-09-20 11:49 AM (#80927 - in reply to #80918)
Subject: Re: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack


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take a pair of needle nose pliers and jam them inside of what is left of the tip of the jack.
open the handles and apply pressure and pull outward.
say a prayer or two.

didn't work?
take a soldering tool with a 90 degree tip and insert it and then try to pull it outwards.
or maybe a dental pick.
again say a few prayers for spiritual guidance and that you don't crack the cheapo plastic that everything is made out of these days.

most likely the jacks on that pedal as closed and you will not be able to force it out from the other end. if you can't get it out then you have to replace it.
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-20 11:57 AM (#80928 - in reply to #80918)
Subject: Re: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack


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You guys have no Sense of Adventure.
The FIRST thing I do when I get a new toy is to take it apart t'see what makes it "tick" . . .


(btw; anyone know the time?? . . my watch doesn't seem t'be working . . .)
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an4340
Posted 2007-09-20 12:30 PM (#80929 - in reply to #80918)
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Probably a dead battery. I've taken the backs off my watches, but I'ven't mucked around inside.

Each post gives a time check when posted.
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cliff
Posted 2007-09-20 12:33 PM (#80930 - in reply to #80918)
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-09-20 12:42 PM (#80931 - in reply to #80918)
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:D :D
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-09-20 1:30 PM (#80932 - in reply to #80918)
Subject: Re: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack


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Professor BB,
my respect for ya`has dwindled,..a ZOOM..??..get one o`those thingies "made in HongKong"..dont`cha know that all the good stuff is bein`made there.. :) There should be a shaft connected to that tip,where the cable was soldered onto..sounds as if that shaft is broken,if it is,than that output jack may have been damaged..replace that output jack,no short-cuts here I`m afraid.. :)

Vic

..You can get it if you really want it..
..but you must try,try and try..
..you`ll succeed when you try..
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-20 4:41 PM (#80933 - in reply to #80918)
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Vic, I'm not sure I understand your post, particularly about the Zoom. The Zoom is fine. This is a Digitech, and it, too, seems to be fine. It is the cable that failed. What remains inside the output jack is the tip of the 1/4" plug. It is being held in by the jack's tip detents. This silly cable was a cheap 12 incher supplied with a pedal board kit. It does look like the cable shaft failed at the solder point.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-09-20 5:14 PM (#80934 - in reply to #80918)
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Prof BB,
I was just Kiddin` ya` ,the ZOOM and DIGITECH are Fine pieces of equipment, that what happened is one of those freak incidents, but seriously, if it broke at the solderjoint than the shaft should be sticking out of the jack-out, if it does not, is it still in the jack-sleeve ?,.when shaking that box, can you hear something rattling..?..what model is it ?

Vic
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-21 9:40 AM (#80935 - in reply to #80918)
Subject: Re: 1/4 plug disintegrates inside effects output jack



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Problem resolved. I exerted extra pressure in jamming the plug into the jack, then slowly and carefully extracted it hoping to keep the tip intact. It worked. The tip came out. The cable failed where the tip is soldered to the short cable end protruding from the plug shaft just beyond the plastic gasket ring.
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alpep
Posted 2007-09-21 10:31 AM (#80936 - in reply to #80918)
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brad
I have shortie monster cables in stock if you need them for effect to effect
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