Capos
Bush wackier
Posted 2020-06-26 5:40 PM (#552371)
Subject: Capos


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Hello, Friends!!
My collection of Ovations is growing and so is my knowledge of them. However, I am seeking more information or maybe just preferences when using capos.

I just acquired a 1977 Country Artist and I love it. I have tried to purchase a capo for each guitar and keep them in the compartment. I now have three O's that are slot heads and have flat fingerboards. I purchased a capo that fits the Classic I have, but what capo should I get for the Country Artist and Folk Lore? They both have flat fingerboards but not as wide as the Classic. Any advise would be appreciated. I look to my Ovation Sage friends with their depth of information for help.
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Standingovation
Posted 2020-06-26 8:01 PM (#552372 - in reply to #552371)
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Classic and Country Artist can use the same capo. If your Folklore has a flat fretboard (would be rare) it could also use the same capo but as far as I know Folklore is 10 inch radius.
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Bush wackier
Posted 2020-06-26 9:24 PM (#552373 - in reply to #552371)
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Thanks, Standingovation!! It looks pretty flat. Both the Classic and Country Artist fingerboards look alike.
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Bush wackier
Posted 2020-06-26 9:39 PM (#552374 - in reply to #552371)
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My apologizes!!!! I know why now I ask the questions. You all know so much ore than me. The Folk Lore does have a radius. I just rechecked. You are right, I was off and wrong.
I'll use a regular capo on Folk Lore and use flat capo on the other two. Thanks!!!!
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nerdydave
Posted 2020-06-27 10:28 PM (#552379 - in reply to #552371)
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Am I missing something here? I have been using the same old Keyser capo on all my guitars and guitars of my friends (I used to have friends) for 20 or 30 years and it fits them all. Except for once when it was lost under the couch behind a package of stale licorice! Are there guitars which it will not work on???
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Standingovation
Posted 2020-06-28 2:43 PM (#552383 - in reply to #552371)
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Flat fingerboard (classical guitar) should technically use a flat capo. But in my experience not many classical players use a capo (and probably poke fun at those who do).

https://acousticguitar.com/choosing-and-using-capos/
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nerdydave
Posted 2020-06-28 10:03 PM (#552384 - in reply to #552371)
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I do see now that the Keyser has a very slight curve to it. But I bet it would work. I didn't even realize my fingerboards were curved!! Hence my name!!
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2020-06-29 11:37 AM (#552385 - in reply to #552371)
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I use many different tunings, 2 doubleneck-guitars and I use capos all the time, sometimes more than 1 on the same neck.
On the Martin I use a John Pearse "reliable capo" made of bell bronze with a thicker gum (cut from a fuel tube).
On the Adamas .Collector´s 2008 I prefer either G7th Heritage or a Kyser partial capo or planet waves capos. On the Ovation double neck I use G7th Heritage for the 12 string and 6 string and Kyser DADGAD capo, several partial capos (4 or 5 strings) made from standard capos like the Dunlop victor. On the Adamas 247 I use a customized Fender Dragon-style capo. On the classic guitars with flat fretboard I use the shubb flat capo.
On all Standard Ovations I would recommend either the planet waves capo or the G7th Heritage, esp. for the 12strings.
In general all capos with an adjustable screw are quite good, the best are the ones with the screw in the center.
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Beal
Posted 2020-06-29 1:48 PM (#552386 - in reply to #552371)
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For a flat one I have a SHubb, and a Keyser lever drop D when needed. other wise it's a McKinney for everything unless I can't find one then it is a regular Keyser. After a while they are like picks, now you have 4 and then they are all gone, like scissors in the kitchen.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2020-06-30 2:09 PM (#552389 - in reply to #552371)
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McKinney's are too expensive for this boy altho' my birthday is in December (hello? is this mic on?). Kysers for almost everything except the 12. That won't take anything but a Shubb screwed down real tight to get the outside E strings.....
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elginacres
Posted 2020-06-30 5:33 PM (#552390 - in reply to #552371)
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Moody - with a capo - that means you are moving above the 3rd fret. I love it. Maybe I can send you a McKinney in celebration. Btw - I don't think I have played above the 3rd fret since COVID came into play.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2020-06-30 9:30 PM (#552391 - in reply to #552371)
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Mark, you can send me a McKinney. Always wanted one but could never justify the high price. There's a reason I don't play Olson guitars. But as to putting a capo on a guitar, basically, you can use the whole neck and you're never above the 3rd fret. My rep is intact.....
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2020-07-01 9:17 AM (#552392 - in reply to #552371)
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For those of you who use 12strings:
You all know the problem of the low E octave string, if you press the capo enough to have it clear the other strings get too much pressure.
The G7th heritage capo is a very good solution, if not the best:

The strings get equalized pressure and can it can be adujsted precisely to any string gauge:

...but this capo is IMHO horrible expensive, worth the price though.

Sometimes it´s a good idea to copy a good idea. If you use the SHUBB capo (which is one of the best, too) you can get spare tubes. If you carefully(!) cut them like a sawblade you will get stunning results. After having scraped half a ton of these I finally found a satisfactory shape:

The result is a more balanced pressure and you don´t even have to re-tune the guitar too much if you make use of a capo. 

Just try it.



Edited by DetlefMichel 2020-07-01 9:21 AM
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2020-07-01 9:24 AM (#552393 - in reply to #552371)
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One pic was wrong, her´s the right one, the G7th capo in action:

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2020-07-01 1:37 PM (#552396 - in reply to #552371)
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Interesting idea. And you're right. $150 for a capo is just silly.

But at $35, this is something to think about.....

https://www.g7th.com/newport-12-string-silver-csp

Edited by moody, p.i. 2020-07-01 1:40 PM
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2020-07-03 8:08 AM (#552404 - in reply to #552396)
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moody, p.i. - 2020-07-01 8:37 PM (...) $150 for a capo is just silly.

 

So is paying for a Porsche when an american car gets you home as well.

 

DO IT! Yoke style capos are great to use.

 

 





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BCam
Posted 2020-07-03 8:22 AM (#552405 - in reply to #552371)
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https://acousticguitar.com/choosing-and-using-capos/
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Waskel
Posted 2020-07-03 8:41 AM (#552406 - in reply to #552390)
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elginacres - 2020-06-30 3:33 PM

Moody - with a capo - that means you are moving above the 3rd fret.

No, Mark. It means he can now play Bb and F!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2020-07-03 11:53 AM (#552408 - in reply to #552404)
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Koenig Kurt - 2020-07-03 6:08 AM

moody, p.i. - 2020-07-01 8:37 PM (...) $150 for a capo is just silly.

 

So is paying for a Porsche when an american car gets you home as well.

 

DO IT! Yoke style capos are great to use.

 

 



That's why I drive a Bullitt. And it's American made......
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2020-07-03 4:30 PM (#552417 - in reply to #552371)
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Ha, my bad! Sorry, Moody, I think I mixed you up with this lawyer in Idaho who only plays in the first three frets...

Best regards,
Kurt
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2020-07-03 6:05 PM (#552418 - in reply to #552371)
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Kurt, I'm the private cop in SoCal who only knows 3 chords. People confuse Mark and me all the time because we look so much alike.....
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seesquare
Posted 2020-07-04 8:47 AM (#552420 - in reply to #552371)
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Twin sons of different mothers? BTW, that was an excellent album, too!
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elginacres
Posted 2020-07-06 2:25 PM (#552444 - in reply to #552371)
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Just call us Fogelberg and Weisberg
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Love O Fair
Posted 2020-07-06 5:13 PM (#552445 - in reply to #552371)
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There are more than three playable frets?? I always thought those other ones were merely stabilizers for the neck. This news could open up some real possibilities for me!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2020-07-06 7:18 PM (#552446 - in reply to #552371)
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Hey! I'm was a lawyer in Idaho, but I've almost always played at least some songs up on the higher frets. I do like Porsches though. I agree that most anything will get you home, but if that's all you want a car for, why even drive?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2020-07-06 7:59 PM (#552447 - in reply to #552446)
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Mark in Boise - 2020-07-06 5:18 PM

I agree that most anything will get you home, but if that's all you want a car for, why even drive?

And THAT'S why I drive my Bullitt......
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2020-07-07 5:34 AM (#552453 - in reply to #552446)
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Mark in Boise - 2020-07-07 2:18 AM  I agree that most anything will get you home, but if that's all you want a car for, why even drive?

 

What Mark said.

 

Now get yourself an Elliott Elite and live happily ever after!

 

Best regards,

Kurt

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Love O Fair
Posted 2020-07-07 8:30 PM (#552464 - in reply to #552371)
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I heard that hitchhiking is making a big comeback, but I'm not so sure if that's true since I'm still standing here and my thumb is getting sunburned. If you can't stop can you please at least toss me a fresh cell battery?
(oh, and a capo, too, thanks)
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