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Location: Michigan | For some of you who were playing in the early sixties can you answer me this ?
I started playing in 1967 and I do not remember any bands playing thru VOX amplifiers until the arrival of the Beatles and the British invasion that followed them.
???? WERE THE BEATLES THE BAND WHO PUT VOX AMPLIFIERS ON THE MAP IN THE STATES ????
WERE THEY THE BAND TO PUT LUDWIG DRUMS ON THE MAP , RICKENBACKER GUITARS ???
I ALWAYS REMEMBERED FENDER BEING THE AMP OF CHOICE BACK THEN GIBSON GUITARS & SLINGERLAND DRUMS? GWB
PS....... Sorry CLIFF to ruin my record of OFF TOPIC questions on this site and yes I do own 2 Adamas guitars A 1598 MERB and a Millineum CB.
!!! PAM ANDERSON IS HOT !!! |
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Location: south east Michigan | If I recall correctlly I remeber seeing Vox amps behind bands like The Beach Boys and Paul Revere & the Raiders.
I read a Beatles "gear" book & was surpised to learn that when they were big in the UK but not yet in the states they had trouble getting the gear they wanted. American Strats & such were on their wish lists. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Ludwig and Slingerland drums were the standard before the Beatles came over. Other brands evolved after that. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Ludwig schudwig.. Slingerland flingerland.
I like Eli Brown drums, but I only have a William Brown 1862 at this time. Cat gut snares and only unborn calf skins for heads. Leather dogs and hemp ropes.
sorry... couldn't resist. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ludwig drums pre-dated The Beatles by about 50 years. They introduced the first hydraulic pedal timpani around 1925, patented the first double throw-off strainer in the 30's and the Speed King pedal was introduced around 1940 (I still use one).
But had it not been for the exposure that they got from Ringo, I guess there's no telling if John Bonham and Karen Carpenter would have ended up being Ludwig players or not.
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Location: Cicero, NY | Can't answer gwb's questions but, fwiw, I've always been partial to Tama's. |
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Location: Michigan | MILES take a pill with your cocktail , your starting to sound like HANNIBAL THE CANABIL.GWB |
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Location: NJ | vox is 50 this year. they started in 56.
ludwing probably gave us the modern trap kit.
leedy
slingerland
gretsch
the biggest names
rickenbacker and gretsch were used by many artists before the beatles
vox was smart and signed the beatles but marshall did not give away amps back in the day and gained the respect of hendrix clapton townsend etc etc |
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Location: NJ | One of the guitar mags (I forget which one) has "The Vox Story" on the cover . . |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Overhere on the Continent, Slingerland was known (albeit expensive), Ludwig was known, but the one regarded as being the "Best", was German-made SONOR, as for amplification, FENDER was the "Best", VOX was okay, but there was a great deal of "hum", in England, the mains is "earthed", taking care of "hum", but the rest of Europe, mains was not,.. and it was Deep Purple ( Roger Glover ) that made RICKENBACKER known overhere.
Vic
..I thought that Jon L was a Gibson man..using a jazzbox..and that funny looking one (also Gibson)..and of course the J-160 a/e.. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I read a Beatles "gear" book & was surpised to learn that when they were big in the UK but not yet in the states they had trouble getting the gear they wanted. American Strats & such were on their wish lists. On PBS or something they had a retrospective of "The Johnny Cash Show." One set, he had a Young Eric Clapton on... Clapton was telling Johnny how much they admired American Instruments and Artists. (Even Johnny Cash :cool: )
While we (Americans) were freaking-out over British musicians, they were listening to BB King and alot of Country-Blues musicians. And lusting after the instruments they played. Everything American was desirable.
Remember, a few American artists couldn't get a gig over here until after they went to Europe.
Kinda OT, but it is what I was thinking. |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Per Cliff's post... The VOX Story
A "Cliff's Notes" version, if I may. A book is available. |
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Location: enid, ok | My understanding is that even seasoned elders do not make good boards. No offense intended. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Originally posted by maxdaddy7271:
My understanding is that even seasoned elders do not make good boards. No offense intended. --------------------------------------------
And in English that means..??.. |
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Location: Central Florida | GWB,
As far as the US is concerned, it WAS The Beatles that single-handedly put Vox amps on the map. Other US bands quickly followed suit, but generally, nobody here had ever heard of Vox amps until the Beatles popularized them. It was also the Beatles that put Hofner basses and Rickenbacker guitars on the map. While other artist may have played/used/endorsed Ric guitars in the pre-Beatles era (Toots Theilmans is the only one that comes to mind), it wasn't until we saw them in the hands of John Lennon and George Harrison in 1964 that they became desirable. It's pretty common knowlege that it was George's Rickenbacker 12-string work on A Hard Days Night that inspired Roger McGuinn to get one---and the rest, as they say, is history!
As for Gretsch guitars and Ludwig drums, they were already well established brands within the music community, but again, the Beatles gave these brands exposure like they'd never had before, and were hugely responsible for selling more than a few Country Gents and Ludwig kits. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | When I was performing regularly in the late 50's and 60's (I was a professional tap dancer as a child on the variety show circuit), there were a lot of popular bands in the lineups. These were mostly local groups from Southern California who had a current hit or two on the charts. My recollection is that the amps and guitars were almost always Fender, particularly with the surf groups. I remember an occasional Gretsch and Gibson as well, more typically with the cowboy and jazz crowd. I have hundreds of late 50's/early 60's editions of Downbeat magazine and the most prominent drum advertiser in these mags was Gretsch. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Did VOX become popular in the US..??...overhere there was n`t much to choose from, amplification was limited to VOX, SELMER, and FENDER, with the latter being the "best", it allways worked, had more possibilities, and it was LOUD ..in the sixties MARSHALL showed up, but...it was a FENDER clone, and yet,..was not the same, it also suffered of "hum" problems, still today, when cash is sparse, need something good, FENDER is a great choice..!!..In the guitar dept., the European makes were based on classical designs, F-hole archtop (Hofner, Hopf), them were nicely made, but the electrics, well, there was FRAMUS, made with big bolts, sturdy and chunky looking, they were No match for the Stratocaster and the Jaguar sporting an Impeccable finish, the Telecaster was looked upon as an oddity, surely electric`s were supposed to have many possibilities (lots of PU`s and switches), and that Tele looked very bare (I still think it`s Xpensive for what it offers), today there`s so much choice in Instruments and Amps. and FX boxes, I wonder what will be next..
Vic
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm a seasoned elder and I don't know anything. Never liked those long haired guys who talked funny and wore pointy shoes. And the only good thing about all those screaming girls were that they drowned out rubbish like, "I Want to Hold Your Hand." |
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| ..'seasoned elder'..I think that was a pun on the wood known as 'elderwood'.. (I got it.. ;) ) |
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Location: NJ | alder. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | He goes to the beat of a different drummer...
Who had the first recorded (round and vinyl) drum solo? |
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Location: NJ | Krupa, maybe???
I dunno . . . |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | I think Cliff is correct...
"Sing, Sing, Sing" with Benny Goodman??? |
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Location: NJ | I dunno, . . .
. . I'm sure Fred & Barney probably had SOMETHING etched in stone . . . |
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Location: enid, ok | ...or at least carved initials in an old elder... |
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Location: Nashville TN. | elder denote mature??
we are all kinda juvi here
possibly sophomoric |
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Question for the Seasoned Elders on Board ?