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Location: Phoenix AZ | Mike, BEWARE!!!!
You are about to step off on a very slippery slope. Yes, the Omega/Cubase is a fine package. Followed shortly by your realisation that you need/want a nice pair of powered studio monitors, then better cables, a break out box, a large diaphram mic, some guitar condensor mics, an outboard mixer to feed the Lexicon, high quality headphones, a new/faster computer with widescreen monitor, a digital control surface, sound treatment for the walls, a chair that does not squeek ...
Trust me, my friend. I have been down this road. Thousands and thousands of dollars spent on what looked like a "must have" in the glossy magazine ads. In the end I've managed to turn out one lousy Peanuts song.
From what I know/read the Omega/Cubase is a fine package. I use something else, no better or worse, just different. If anyone will put it to good use, I'm sure you will. Just be prepared $$$ for what you are about to get into.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Mike, with all the gear you`ve got, is n`t there a PA and a recording device amongst it..??..why do you want to use a computer, I`ve got a KORG D3200, 32 ch., mixer with built-in hard-drive, CD recorder-player, and a "session drummer", gathering from what Dave says (and others), and considering that you`re a true musician, why not stick to professional stuff, the D3200 is a neat and sturdy package, it can be used as a "live" mixer, and it`s much easier to work with than a computer, it can make a First-Class recording while performing, sure, it may take a while to get used to, but it WILL give you OUTSTANDING results (the pre-amps and FX are of very high quality), using it for both "live" and "home" applications will enable you to build a routine, thereby avoiding headaches, like, "how was that again ?? ", really, such a stand-alone can save a lot of hassle, and is, in the end more economical, couple it to a PA, use your regular gear,mic`s., cables, whatever, and you`re all set, ...and that "session drummer" is real Nice !! :)
http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=D3200&category_id=3
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Location: NJ | Hey, Dave!!
You're not gonna be in NYC next weekend by any chance, are ya??
The AES(AudioEngineeringSociety) Show is town the 5th thru the 8th.
Some R-E-A-L-L-Y COOL toys t'drool over!!
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Location: south east Michigan | Brian has that Cubase set-up. We recorded our submissions for the OFC disc on it. I borrowed it for a couple months and had a chance for a test drive.
For my needs it just too much. I’d describe it as being very “sound engineer” friendly and not very “guitar playing guy” friendly. Lots of procedural details to keep track of. Lots of bells & whistles I’ll never use. It’s one of those things that you have to dedicate time to on a regular basis to stay proficient at it.
When I can shake loose some cash I might look for a used Tascam unit on e-bay. Like Vic suggested, a stand alone unit might be more what I'm looking for.
About the mics. Brian has the 2 mic set you see in the Guitar Center catalog for $99. They work plenty fine for what I want to do. (I can just see Al rolling his eyes back and Master Templeman reaching for a stiff drink at just the thought of using a $50 microphone.)
Dave… I know you have the talent for more recordings but it’s my guess that like me, it’s hard to find the time to do it.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Solid Top aka Enfant Terrible:
why not stick to professional stuff, This sounds like you are saying a DAW setup is not professional :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mike, that is a great little setup. It is not that difficult to figure out and Cubase in one of the DAW standards so there are plenty of knowledgeable folks and books to help you through any tough spots. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Digitally Audio Work station, that is just what the D3200 actually is, Mobile at that, in Utmost Quality...and a Musician Friendly one.. :)
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Location: NJ | I don't know Lexicon/Omega, but I use Cubase at home, and I really like it.
It IS a bit daunting at the beginning, but (like everything ELSE) the more y'use it, the easier it gets . . .
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | I had written a long post, then thought,..when Dave`s post is Invisible, and Brad`s post ditto, then why would I bother...
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Solid Top aka Enfant Terrible:
..playing guitar on a keyboard could be fun I suppose.. :) Sigh.......... :(
Obviously you know very little about recording through a computer. :rolleyes: To each is own and I respect your choice of recording media. The Korg is a fine unit and I actually owned one for quite a while until I decided I wanted more versatility and control. YMMV ;) |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | ..and here I was...convinced that the D3200 was a Computer, Optimized for Digital Audio Processing..
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | The biggest drawbacks to units like the Korg are their inability to edit. If I happened to play a lead track that was 95% perfect, with the computer I just snip out the bad notes and insert the good notes. With a Korg, I would have to replay the entire track (unless things have changed a LOT since I last looked!)
Same with vocals,bass, keys, etc. The editing capabilities is what makes the computer DAW so nice.
Also the ability to add/remove effects/compression/EQ after previewing them without altering the original recording.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Now, you would not, by any chance, insinuate that I play any good notes would you..
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Location: Utah | Mike, I have the little brother to the Omega, the Alpha. The sound is good and it works well through the USB port. No phantom power on the Alpha, but IIRC the Omega has it. The preamps are decently clean and they boost even a weak signal without noise.
I run Guitar Tracks Pro recording software. As a generalization, recording on the computer is pretty easy and fun. Editing is pretty easy.
However, there are two caveats. First, even a fairly new and powerful desktop can get bogged down with crap running in the background. The kids' iTunes is a big problem, as is Norton AntiVirus. We have to shut down most of the background processes to avoid problems. You can create a clean startup which runs nothing but your recording software, or you can manually shut stuff down.
The second problem is that there is a vocabulary used in the manuals and online forums that can be foreign. The concepts aren't difficult, but sometimes I have no idea what a particular word means. So there is a learning curve a few curse words in your future. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Until now I thought that I had to learn to play correctly before I recorded something and the recordings I heard from you guys were examples of why I shouldn't record anything. I suspected that these computer programs could fix mistakes, but I prefer to hold onto my perception that you are just really good musicians. Please don't put any disclaimers on the next OFC CD to the effect that it has been digitally altered.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
Hey, Dave!!
You're not gonna be in NYC next weekend by any chance, are ya??
Unfortunately I can't be there next weekend. I'm stuck in the left half until end of Oct.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey group, thanks for all the help and advice; opinions and pitfall bewares...I really do appreciate it...I have an older setup:
From the top: RackRider RR-15-Plus Power conditioner and Light Module; Korg Toneworks DTR-1 Digital Tuner; Echo Mona 24/96 Digital Studio w/pc card and interface; Rocktron Intellifex Processor; Nady Audio CL-5000 Dual Channel Compressor Limiter w/gate; Apxex 104 Aural Exciter Type C2 w/Big Bottom; Sony cassette deck.
I also have a Rode NT2 large diaphram condenser Mic (Austrailia) as well as an old version of Cakewalk Pro Audio (1999). My computer is a Dell XPS 600, P-4 3.6ghz; 2 gigs of ram. 80 gig Raptor hard drive, Creative Audio X-Fi sound card, etc, DVD R/RW Dual Layer, etc.
I had planned on creating a home studio 6 years ago but kids, seminary, and job took a toll...but now I want to get back into it; just not sure if my ECHO Mona is outdated or obsolete...There for I am thinking of going smaller and more compact...also I don't know if the software is still current. I want to take advantage of the computer and the DVD RW drive it has to make copies etc. So again, any help or ideas anyone has is helpful and is appreciated!
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Mike,
I assume that you have read the discussion ( incl. the match between "killer Stephen" and "feisty Vic" ), so let me ask you, how do you want to tackle this,....
A) Recording VooDoo = very costly
B) HomeHobby = costly
C) LazyMusicianRealLifeApproach = affordable
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey Vic: I choose C....for now...
Stephen: I am leaning that route and later when funds pick up, I'll rethink with a all in one DWS. BTW, I also have an Alesis Fusion 6HD w/a complete sound library from Hollow Sun downloaded and installed...it is fantastic...I just need some time to play with the toys...
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mike, just let me know and I will send the books your way. Cubase LE is a nice stable program to work with. I think it is an LE version of SX3 but I am not 100% sure. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Okay, C it is, Good Choice !!
You`ve got the PA,
You`ve got the Instruments,
You`re a Performing Musician, with Wife and Kids and little time,..(where have I heard that before..??..)..
Time to look at a "stand-alone", them are dedicated to AUDIO only, have (relatively) ease of use, there are many to choose from, they are directly compatible with your Instruments/Mic`s/PA, some are more reliable than others,.. Let me start of with a warning !!..KORG D888 has a problem with the faders (scratches when being moved), they claim that software can be downloaded to remedy it, but I know of 2 guys, who are selling theirs, less than a year old,( bad news first ! )..but generally speaking, stand-alones deliver the goods, and Importantly, do not get "outmoded", since that they`re Independent of extranous software, and, some models can be "upgraded" by downloading software from the internet, to enhance/expand, many can be coupled to computers by means of midi, totally compatible, there is no waist of money, I would say, these are valuable considerations, sound quality ,incl. FX (rev.,compressor.,etc.), can be superb indeed, a good foundation to base a choice on, would be, how many channels, built in drummer, size of LCD screen, that sort of thing... :)
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Location: closely held secret | Mike, if you click the CDBaby link in my signature... It's a CD I've done. Every track on it was recorded and dubbed using a $99 M-Audio sound card, a $50 mic, a $150 mixer and Cubase 2. (Oh, and 1 Ovation!)
I've experimented with just about all the DAW software, now I use ACID and Vegas, but the principle is the same.
Sorry Vic, I know some people swear by dedicated recording stand-alones, but I've found them to be very restrictive in what they let you do. Using my computer I can use whatever plugins I can get my hands on, VST or DX. I can use one app to record and another to master. I can use software synths and loops at will. Best of all, I can use the computer for other things when I'm not using it for recording.
Mike, Dave is correct. You will want all that gear, but you don't need it right away. What you will want however, is a decent set of powered studio monitors. You don't need to spend a fortune on them, and they don't have to be huge. M-Audio, Event, Behringer, Roland all make very affordable units that will give you a clear picture of your sound if you follow the guidelines for placement. You can get a decent mic for $100. The headphones don't have to be the best, you don't want to mix or master with headphones anyway. A small 4 or 6 channel mixer will help. Again, don't spend a bunch of money on it, there's lots of them on the market.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mike, I also have a pair of Event TR8N's that I replaced with Focal Twin 6's that are no longer being used. Great monitors for the budget you want to stay within.
First, I am going to see if Fugot is interested since he is just across town but if he doesn't need them, I would be glad to work something out and send them your way.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Oh boy, if you go whole hog on this it's expensive. The cheapest, and perfectly adequate way is to record to a tascam 4 track, using your existing effects, then do a mixdown to a cd player/recorder. Then you can bring the cd to your pc.
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Skip, the mixdown to cd and mixdown directly to your computer using dell musicmatch. Never bothered doing it this way, but will try it tonight, with a concert from last night. Will let you know how it turns out. |
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Location: New Jersey, USA | I'll add my two cents to this discussion. I've released three albums on CD since 1997. See my sig if you're curious to hear samples.
Rather than list of bunch of equipment or opine confidently about what I think is the "right way to go," I have a different perspective to share on recording philosophy.
When you're working both the gear AND the instruments, it's easy to get bogged down with technical stuff that kills the inspiration. Especially if you are a newbie trying to figure out WTF you are doing. That's why when you go to a pro studio as an artist, you don't push faders. You sit with phones on in a comfy position, and focus on your music.
So my take on this is to get gear that gets the job done in the least obtrusive manner possible, and lets you focus on your playing. For a newbie, you may not have a clue what this gear is! That's a problem. But one that you may just have to face. Trial and error are often a way of life.
Personally, as a guy who makes a living at a PC screen, I loathe computers as a recording tool. I don't care if they're good for it (they are). I opt instead to use a standalone DAW. Since 1995 or so I've been a Roland VS user (went from a 1680 to a 2480). The VS-2480 has a VGA output that lets you hook up a big sexy monitor, so you have a great UI and tons of editing capabilities. It never crashes, it doesn't run any extraneous crap, and I have learned to work it efficiently.
I started on a Tascam 4-track cassette machine in 1985. Moved to a Tascam DA-88, and from there to the VS units. More important than your recorder by far is your selection of microphones and preamps. A mistake made by many is to skimp on those in lieu of impressive software, plug-ins, etc. Mics are not exciting to buy, but they are THE most important component in getting your ACOUSTIC guitar recorded well. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I just looked at that Lexicon deal at Musicians Friend. You get a free AKG mic (rebate) if purchased by 9/30. They don't say what model it is, but hey...it's free....and if you need one, I think I might have an extra cable laying around. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Again, thanks everyone for the help and ideas:
Wabbit: good ideas; if you look at my post with the picture of my rack, I listed several things: my computer, my great Studio Mic; and my keyboard DWS...that with the hardware I have in the rack and elsewhere (I have 6 other good mic's of various makes), I think I am just about set. One thing I forgot to mention is my DAT (Sony) that I can record to direct from my PA and to the computer or CD recorder (I have a DVD recorder and I think it records CD's too). So I will get everything hooked up and give it a shot. I do think I am going to buy the Lexicon...makes a great interface...and its cheap...also get some good speakers...got a line on a pair (Stephen pm sent)...so give me a bit and lets see what I can come up with! Thanks again for all the help friends...
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Actually, Roger "nails it down", he`s got the knowledge to accurately evaluate the situation from "both sides",
Stephen and Wabbit are computer buffs, to them a comp. has no secrets, but Mike and other guys whom are in his situation , want to record some music, make a demo, use it to improve skills, etc.,
..now, I acknowledge that a computer is a Highly Versatile Tool, but it also takes Great Knowledge to Operate that machine,...
Musicians like Mike and many others , we need something that we can get along with,
Dave`s post pointed at the pitfalls, of buying this and that, computer, software, all kinds of "thingies",
Brad`s post pointed at the pitfalls of real life-use for a novice (and Flysig Second`it),
now, a Musician usually has a few items, Instrument(s), Mic`s., PA system, that stuff is costly, takes up space, so it would be Nice to use it for Multiple purposes,..
.. and here comes Roger, and tells "Like it is", ( Roger, about time too ) :) for he does both, understands both "corners", it`s easy for Stephen to come tumblin` down on me and, "move in for the kill" ( yeah right, and good old Wabbit cheerfully joins in, gangin`up on me ) :) , but it takes a Great deal of time, to figure out the comp. stuff,...
..but a li`ll machine, that can be hooked up to existing equipment, with some High Q. possibilities, a li`ll handbook, and Good Results, right here and now, is, as I see it, what is wanted/needed,
again, Roger "puts it down", when "Perfect Results", are needed, that`s when Miles (Mr.Ovation, a recording Pro!!) gets the call,..." Record this song , make me Rich & Famous "....but until then, Easy Does it :) ,
and ...Microphones are Xciting, for my voice, it`s the PEAVY PM 22 "Diamond",...the AUDIX OM 2 is good for rock (screaming into it),...and the "best allrounder" (Fem.Voc., Male Voc., Instruments), that is the AKG C535 EB (yummy !!),..but an SM 58 is not bad either...
BTW , I`ve discovered a real Gem, a PRODIPE MC-1 costing around 50 usd (overhere), it compares favorably to a SENNHEISER e945....for a 1/4 of the price ..!!.............sorry, could n`t resist.. :D
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The wabbit and I were merely answering the "Topic" which was "Computer Recording". :cool:
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Regardless of what media you choose, here`s some help regarding your recording endavours ...
http://www.bedroom-recording.com/recording-process.html
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Quote killer-Stephen " why do you think it takes "great knowledge" to operate.......after all, Cliff did it! "
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Vic, I wasn't jumping on you. Like Stephen said, it is the topic.
I started out recording on r2r in the 60's. I've gone through several of those. I have a Fostex Multitracker 4 track. I've experimented with several standalone hard disk recorders. So it's not like computers are the only medium I've used. They're simply the most powerful in terms of options and editing. And it's really not that hard.
No disrespect meant to Roger (in fact, I have a lot of respect for him!) but many of us are on a limited budget, while we do happen to have a computer. Why not make use of it?
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1)Record on a casette 4 track recorder, or mono casette recorder
2)Use "windows recorder" to record off the tape player (You'll have to use the insert function to expand player to the size of your cut)
3)Use mediaplayer to download to a cd and covert to wma format.
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Mike - let us know how you make out with that. I'd love to play around with some home recording but I've just been a little (ok, a lot) hesitant to open that door as it seems that the one thing that everyone agrees on is that it's just another money pit... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Mike , congrats with that encyclopedia ;)
I have enjoyed the discussion here :) , and, is there any truth to that rumour, about a recording session in a couple of weeks, at Mike`s place, with Neumann`s, Blue Bottle`s, milk and cookies... :confused:
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Location: closely held secret | Weas, it doesn't have to be a money pit. You've already got a computer. You can easily record on anything from a 1Ghz with 1/2Gb memory up with no problem.
I had about $300 invested in hardware (card, mixer, mic) when I started playing with computer-based recording. You can do it cheaper than that now, with USB mics (there's even an adapter out now to use any dynamic or condenser mic via usb) and/or single input usb devices, like Guitar Port or M-audio's Transit or Fast Track.
You don't have to invest in software like Cubase which costs $ and has a high learning curve - there's free software out there, for both Macs and PC's (garageband, audacity).
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This is a great place to start..
http://www.tweakheadz.com/guide.htm
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This will give you a good idea of what you are in for. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Okay, and for those who want to use REAPER, (or any other media), here is a quick tutorial about Miking Technique, from AKG, click on what is of interest..
http://www.akg.com/site/powerslave,id,12,nodeid,12,_language,EN.htm...
..wanna know more, an In-Depth article about Mics.( worth printing out ), How and Why, takes a li`ll while to download, from SHURE..
http://www.shure.com/stellent/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_ug/documen...
..and a li`ll NOSTALGIA, ...ahh.., the Good Old Days..
http://reel2reeltexas.com/vinAd57.html
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Location: Phoenix AZ | If your computer has analog inputs, then the answer is yes. I would say 99% of computers have analog inputs, but the problem is that most of them are attached to pretty shitty/noisy soundcards. Might not matter if you're just transferring over your LP collection or something like that. But I am afraid that if you want to do any serious recording, especially of the quiet acoustic type, the noise floor of most cards will drive you nuts. And HERE is where the $$$ spiral of death begins ...
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Yes, Reaper can do audio. It's current weakness is with midi but I don't think the majority of users on this forum are really thinking midi when they are looking to record.
What Dave said.....but you can grab some decent stuff like Mike just did in the under $200 range to get started....Lexicon, Tascam US144 or US122, Line 6 Toneport, M-Audio Delta card.....there are tons available in the "won't break the bank to get started range".
Course, if you catch the bug, all bets are off! |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | "Course, if you catch the bug, all bets are off!"
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Just the mere thought of doing recording / audio , is proof of being bitten... :)
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..the cure is meditation, looking at how others do it ( web-sites ) , do overtime.. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | ...or mediation?
medication? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey, I finally found the box I have been looking for since I moved a year and a half ago (the one before the move in January to our own home...ministry in the Methodist tradition)...in it were the Echo Mona pc/card, and manual, my complete Cakewalk Pro Suite 9, and an Alesis Sanctuary Q card...Just like Christmas...
The new stuff should be here by the end of the week...I'll use whatever is best and eaisest to use. Hopefully, I can have CD's before Christmas! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | BTW, I just want to take a minute and commend our good friend Wabbit for his CD: Rest. I have not gotten my copy in the mail yet, but it's on order, and I did listen to it in ITunes...Really nice stuff! If mine will approach this quality, then I'll be a Happy guy...and, he plays really well too. Nice mixing/blending of the tracks...Well done! |
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Location: closely held secret | Thank you, Mike, that's very kind of you.
Having heard you sing and play I consider that valuable praise! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I keep falling asleep two songs into it... ;) |
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Location: closely held secret | Mission accomplished. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I keep falling asleep two songs into it... Mission accomplished.
You guys crack me up... :D |
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Location: NJ | . . . available now on Ambien Records & Tapaes . . . |
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Location: NJ | Tapes(ShutUp,Witko!!) |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I'll try Reaper. That would be great as it would skip a step, and I can mixdown into the computer from my four track. Actually, for my purposes, mono works well and that lo-fi casette hiss adds to the charm. Plus, I can't afford the $$$ death spiral. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I would never criticize anyone over a simple mistake. Honest officer, I had NO idea she was only seventeen.
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Location: closely held secret | That would be like criticizing someone for PMing the wrong person. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Yes John, THAT could have long term consequences. Fortunately I wasn't PMing people saying nasty stuff about other members (like I usually do). Dave |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | There was a mistake???
Who Knew?
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Location: closely held secret | Yup, I got a few of those too. Don't worry, I didn't forward them to Cliff.
Uh... I mean... |
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Location: NJ | Sorry Wask, . . . I know THAT'll never happen . . .
At least Dave and I have the common decency of insulting each other face-to-face . . . |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ...when he's wearin' heels anyway. |
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Location: NJ | yeh, there's just SOMETHING about the sight of Wiko in a pair of "f-me" pumps . . . |
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Location: NJ | . . RED ones, especially. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | he's does have the calves for them.... |
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Location: NJ | and the "5 o'clock shadow" eliminates the need for garters . . . |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I was giving John a ride in the Boxster when I first listened to his CD and kept it there for awhile. It is a bit too relaxing for a car CD, hence the name, but it is very well done. Maybe if I listened to it instead of watching the news before going to bed I might sleep better. It's just another example of the diversity of this board. There's a whole bunch of people with talent and then there's me. Why am I here? |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Same reason I am, Mark - to make the others look better. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Some of us have to hold up the totem pole, Weas. (I realize that could be interpreted as a bad pun, given the other thread on Polish ancestry.) |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey, I found a site that had the latest XP Windows drivers and software for the Echo Mona that I have...So, when the new software (Cubase) gets here, I'll give it a go...my latest computer is five times faster than my old one...and the Lexicon is due here tomorrow! Can you say Presents?
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | The Lexicon Omega arrived yesterday: complete in the box w/ all paperwork, pwr supply,USB cable, and software CD...looks new, hardly know it is used...must have been very slight use...I'm leaving for out of town till Sunday but I should have time Monday to install and try it out..not a bad deal for $149 delivered...I'm excited...I think this is just what I was looking for...I'll post results later. |
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