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Location: Texas | Oh, just watching some of my old videos with Jim playing his sunburst Legend and was wondering what guitar would he be playing if he was alive.
Would he had moved to an Adamas model, being that he and Maury were playing Ovations on their last concerts?
Considering that the Martin D-21 that he played was not even his (it belong to his photographer, but Martin even issued a limited edition Croce model based on that guitar).
Would he be playing his Martin model? Or maybe a Taylor? Olson? Santa Cruz? Gibson?
I think he would have stuck with some kind of acoustic/electric model...........would Ovation have issued a Jim Croce model?
What do you all think?
I miss Jim, what a great singer, songwriter, artist, performer, person.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Takamine |
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Location: big island | serge,
your post is quite coincidental. i just finished watching a croce dvd, "have you heard", that i found online and was recommended by others here, before checking in. i saw him playing the martin d-21 and his sunburst legend and also a gibson dove. in the extra features portion, he played a gibson 12 string while singing a song with his wife, ingrid.
the martins that he and maury were playing sounded decent, however, the ovations they played seemed to sound better. given the fact that the acoustics and recording setups at the various venues were different, the O's sounded consistent.
i think jim and maury would have eventually strummed some adamas models regularly. even though their ovations were a/e, i did not notice them ever being plugged in but always miked in these videos. |
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Location: Texas | yep, on that DVD the best sounding guitars are the Ovations.
Dave, maybe you are right, the Taks are great for the style. |
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Location: North Carolina | Jim Croce and Harry Chapin. What a loss. What a damn loss. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Jim Croce and Harry Chapin The musical world is certainly better because of their contributions...two of my early influences...they left us too soon! I miss the realism they brought to the table with their songs...brilliant songwriting!
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Location: SoCal | Don't forget one of their good friends... Steve Goodman. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Croce would have gone over to a Taylor.
What? Don't look at me like that! They all have at one time or another. |
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Location: NJ | Takamine (or maybe Martin).
But, I agree w/Bill.
Taylor woulda' gotten their claws into him . . . eventually.
Does anyone know if Springsteen went back to Tak's yet for the new Tour??
Last year(when he thought he was WoodyGuthrie), he went over to old Gibsons. I was wondering if he went back to Tak's now that he's back with the FleaStreet Band . . . |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Always timely for me. Have JC in the player and I've just about got "Operator" down. I'm running out of Croce songs to learn. I might have to start learning Maury's parts. I always thought he owned that Martin. Sadly, I have to agree with Bill. Taylor would have snagged him, although Taks seem to be getting more and more star power. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Croce would have gone over to a Taylor.
Actually I was going to post this but since I own several, I knew I'd be in for flack...but I have to agree with Beal here; however, I also think he'd still be playing Ovation/Adamas...his signature sound was for the most part, done on the Legend.
Kind of hard to surmise though, isn't it? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | an O. |
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Location: big island | i'll ask jim when i see him. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My reason for stating Takamine, was not just a knee jerk reaction. Sure Ovation would be a sentimental choice, but in reality I don't think they would ever compensate him, make a signature model, etc. And I can't see Croce being attracted to the bling, cutaways, gay fig leaves, etc. Maybe an FD14.
But Takamine I think would have really gone after him and they have a strong reputation of making road worthy, traditional looking guitars. Their electronics are second to none. "Operator" played with a Cool-Tube? I can see it. "Time In A Bottle" on and EF75. Oh yeah.
Of course, this discussion is all predicated on the Croce we "knew" at the time of his death. No saying that within a few more years he would not have moved to Malibu, developed a severe cocaine habit, turn out a few second rate LPs just to satisfy his contract, and then never be heard from again until he starts showing up 20 years later on the casino circuit.
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 Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111
Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by First Alternate:
Jim Croce and Harry Chapin. What a loss. What a damn loss. No kidding
with Chapin talk about the bad days
was it the fatal heart attack that killed him or the fatal car crash. |
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Location: SoCal | Geez Dave, I read your posts and they're so damned uplifting..... |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | I'm trying to picture Croce at 250 lbs., in sequined outfits and a face tighter than Joan Rivers' but it's just not working... |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Just for fun, I have an old, engraved, phenolic sign in my office, "Conjectural Analyst", given to me upon my exit from Uncle Sam's Flying Club. I believe Mr. Croce would be ensconced in his Sante Fe ranch, sipping good bourbon & branch-water, recording & entertaining, without much regard for product endorsements. Probably would be drawn to something crisp, with high, ringing tone. I'm voting for the OFC Special Order. Why not?! |
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Location: East Tennessee | Interestingly I read that his Ovation survived the plane crash that killed him.
"Time In A Bottle" my favorites Croce song. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | He would have been almost 65. Practically ancient. |
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Location: ms | HE would use a Martin at home and a Taylor live. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by First Alternate:
Jim Croce and Harry Chapin. What a loss. What a damn loss. But their progeny have put out some pretty good stuff recently. Check out Adrian James Croce and Jen Chapin ...
WWJP? He seemed a real salt of the earth guy, so my guess is that he'd still be playing that same Ovation and D-21. |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 26
Location: Newport,OR | I find this thread really interesting. In the 70's and 80's I made a living playing alot of Croce and emulating his style as well as other folk rock players. While on the road I had to switch over to Ovation, because all of my expensive Martin and Guild guitars at the time could not hold up to the riggers of road work. My first Ovation was a Glen Campbell Special, and the Adamas came in 83' as an upgrade. I loved the tones of my purely wood acoustics, but they didn't like the cold and heat in the back of my bus and began to have serious neck and joint problems. When I had the choice to play anything I wanted - I went with Ovation's! I believe Jim would've been an Adamas player! :) |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by jamrcat:
I believe Jim would've been an Adamas player! :) yes! |
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