how to fight with pain in the hand?
LBJ
Posted 2007-10-04 4:46 PM (#79327)
Subject: how to fight with pain in the hand?


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Hi.
in last few weeks i've started to feel pain in my left hand while playing (especially fast parts on electric).
This pain bothers me much more now than two weeks ago, and i don't know what to do. after yesterday practice i had big pain also in right hand, and today morning i couldn't write anything because my right hand was shaking.
did anyone experience something like this?
i feel some pain all day, and it's getting worse after few minutes of playing on electric, or on acoustic - fingerstyle. When i strum and use basic chords only, nothing happens, but anything harder makes me feel that pain.
it starts in my wrist and while i play, it goes all the way to fingers.
i've forgot to add. Pain in right hand appeared only one time and now i feel ok.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-10-04 5:26 PM (#79328 - in reply to #79327)
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use the knuckles of your right hand to vigorously massage your entire left forearm underside and wrist in circles, clockwise and counter-clockwise. also use the top of your right forearm to vigorously massage your left underarm in the same manner. do this for 3-5 minutes once a day. repeat on right side. you will feel the nerve impulses up and down your arm and into your fingertips. this is excellent for carpal tunnel also.

you may also follow cliff's suggestions and massage your wife regularly. and if you can't massage the one you love, massage the one you're with.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-04 5:31 PM (#79329 - in reply to #79327)
Subject: Re: how to fight with pain in the hand?


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i'm 23 and still single.
do you think that i'd be able to afford ANY guitar having wife in Poland?
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lanaki
Posted 2007-10-04 5:53 PM (#79330 - in reply to #79327)
Subject: Re: how to fight with pain in the hand?


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Originally posted by LBJ:
i'm 23 and still single.
do you think that i'd be able to afford ANY guitar having wife in Poland?
give up the jaegermeisters and you will be able to afford a wife. your pain will probably permanently go away too! ;)

actually the massage i mentioned above usually works the first time you try it. some cases take a day or two longer. use this method for prevention also.
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Beal
Posted 2007-10-04 6:45 PM (#79331 - in reply to #79327)
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could ask a doctor.......
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cliff
Posted 2007-10-04 7:52 PM (#79332 - in reply to #79327)
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In Poland, I guess that would be a podiatrist, . . no??
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gulfcoast
Posted 2007-10-04 8:11 PM (#79333 - in reply to #79327)
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If he don`t have a wife it may be over use from, well you know.
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cliff
Posted 2007-10-04 8:14 PM (#79334 - in reply to #79327)
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cooking??
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-10-04 8:32 PM (#79335 - in reply to #79327)
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Ironing.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-10-04 8:34 PM (#79336 - in reply to #79327)
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balancing the checkbook?
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cliff
Posted 2007-10-04 8:50 PM (#79337 - in reply to #79327)
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waxing the rocket??
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-10-04 9:13 PM (#79338 - in reply to #79327)
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massage your wife regularly. and if you can't massage the one you love, massage the one you're with.
Well I was going to say that I wouldn't touch that line with a ten foot pole; but that may be insensitive...and its not politically correct either...but since when has anyone here been politically correct? Or sensitive for that matter? 23, not married, pain in hands/wrists/arms? Hmmmmm...sounds like self abuse to me...you could go blind!

(lol, naw...) (BTW, like the new name...but it sounds framiliar...)

:eek: :confused: ;)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-10-04 10:14 PM (#79339 - in reply to #79327)
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Sounds like too much guitar playing. See if you can find some exercises for carpal tunnel syndrome on the internet. Probably not the exercises discussed above, especially if that's what caused it.
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an4340
Posted 2007-10-04 10:18 PM (#79340 - in reply to #79327)
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Actually, don't give up your jagermeisters ... I highly recommend drinking for pain relief. Also wife relief. They have pretty good vodka in poland, so drink up! Na zdrowie! (I say this in honor of polish american month)
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-05 12:43 AM (#79341 - in reply to #79327)
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i drink jagermaisters only from time to time.
i have a long-time girlfriend, so i don't think it's from self abuse ;-)
i think i'll play more on my O, less on electric for now (Ovation has much more comfortable neck), maybe after few days pain will be gone.
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John B
Posted 2007-10-05 6:08 AM (#79342 - in reply to #79327)
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Originally posted by gulfcoast:
If he don`t have a wife it may be over use from, well you know.
Patting himself on the back?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-05 7:34 AM (#79343 - in reply to #79327)
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Originally posted by gulfcoast:
If he don`t have a wife it may be over use from, well you know.
I laugh... Married men get less.....
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brainslag
Posted 2007-10-05 8:23 AM (#79344 - in reply to #79327)
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FlySig
Posted 2007-10-05 2:15 PM (#79345 - in reply to #79327)
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It might be carpal tunnel, but obviously only a real doctor could diagnose it, not me.

If you spend much time on the computer or doing other repetitive tasks, like guitar playing, you could have carpal tunnel or a similar condition involving the elbow.

They make wrist braces which are available here in the states pretty cheaply and in the grocery store or pharmacy. They are probably easily available in where you live, too. Wearing a wrist brace, especially while sleeping and using the computer, can help a lot.
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bvince
Posted 2007-10-05 2:16 PM (#79346 - in reply to #79327)
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Sounds a lot like carpal tunnel syndrome. WELCOME TO MY WORLD.

I had corrective surgery on the right hand about two years ago, and it looks like the left is going under the knife pretty soon also. The surgery aint all that bad, but recovery time with no guitar playing sucks. I guess I could teach myself how to play using my feet, like the armless guitar player dude.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-10-05 4:07 PM (#79347 - in reply to #79327)
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don't discount the massage technique i described above. it works wonders and will prevent the need for surgery.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-10-05 4:19 PM (#79348 - in reply to #79327)
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Originally posted by MusicMike:
..you could go blind!
Can I do it 'till I need glasses?

(oops! Too late.)
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-05 4:23 PM (#79349 - in reply to #79327)
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hm. i work on computer 8-10 hours a day + 2-4 hours of guitar playing. i will read more about this syndrome. the biggest problem for me is that most of my playing on electric guitar was based on speed of my left hand, and now i have problems with coordination, and i can't keep up the tempo with band.
shit happens.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-10-05 4:26 PM (#79350 - in reply to #79327)
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I did it, the knuckle massage-thing, ..got advice to improve blood-circulation too ?

Vic
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-10-05 4:32 PM (#79351 - in reply to #79327)
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Originally posted by Solid Top aka Enfant Terrible:
I did it, the knuckle massage-thing, ..got advice to improve blood-circulation too ?

Vic
Viagra
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lanaki
Posted 2007-10-05 4:33 PM (#79352 - in reply to #79327)
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Originally posted by Solid Top aka Enfant Terrible:
I did it, the knuckle massage-thing, ..got advice to improve blood-circulation too ?

Vic
guarantee your blood was circulating better than ever during the massage!
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bvince
Posted 2007-10-05 5:01 PM (#79353 - in reply to #79327)
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Hey Lanaki, I printed out the massage thing. I think I'll get the wife to do it FOR me, using some of that Watkins Lemon Oil Balm. (:
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vision
Posted 2007-10-05 5:52 PM (#79354 - in reply to #79327)
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carpal tunnel in both wrist - have it and refuse to have surgery - I use wrist braces at night so I won't bend the wrists while I sleep - makes all the difference in the world. I also soak my hands and wrists in warm water with epson Salts -it eases the pain ---- works every time. Play on :)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-10-06 1:56 AM (#79355 - in reply to #79327)
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Originally posted by LBJ:
hm. i work on computer 8-10 hours a day + 2-4 hours of guitar playing. i will read more about this syndrome. the biggest problem for me is that most of my playing on electric guitar was based on speed of my left hand, and now i have problems with coordination, and i can't keep up the tempo with band.
shit happens.
David Gilmour said that the reason why he plays all those cool slow riffs is cuz he cannot play fast! :D

I was reading this thread, and thinking that you cannot have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome at 23, You're way too young!

That was until I read what you do for a living! Sorry!
I'm getting pains from my age... Sometimes my hands get stiff, but that is mostly the beginnings of arthritis!
I take Gilmour's advice...
I also soak my hands in warm water.
But I don't know if that would do anything for your wrists.
Have you tried Advil? (neproxin)(spl chk)
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-06 5:34 PM (#79356 - in reply to #79327)
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hmm.
i don't know what is advil.
i've been using traumon up to this day.
i think i've found solution for my problems, and his name is Kuba (Jacob) who is my new co-worker. That man has incredible talent and i think he will take my place in band, and maybe i'll switch to more rythm playing.
i have never seen person who enjoys playing that much. he's full of positive energy and he probably has ADHD... but... i don't know anyone else who could learn to play on hurdy gurdy in 5 minutes.

i will go to doctor on monday.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-10-07 1:57 AM (#79357 - in reply to #79327)
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Topic: how to fight with pain in the hand?

boxers do it all the time :D
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gulfcoast
Posted 2007-10-07 5:28 PM (#79358 - in reply to #79327)
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There is some good info over at the UMGF. Look under "General Musical Topics". Sounds like you may have tendonitis. I`ve been dealing with arthritis and tendon trouble for over ten years. The bad news is they told me then i had about ten years playing time in my hands, the good news is they tell me now i should have ten more but i may be facing surgery. It may never go away but you can get some relief.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-11 5:31 PM (#79359 - in reply to #79327)
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ok.
i went to doctor, he diagnosed it as a "drastic tendon inflammation" and he prescripted me some medicines. and i shall not play aggresively on guitar for at least 2 weeks :-(
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MWoody
Posted 2007-10-11 8:04 PM (#79360 - in reply to #79327)
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Ask your Physician or Physical Therapist (or your Bartender/Barber) about Trans Fibral Massage.

And learn how to fingerpick.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-12 12:39 AM (#79361 - in reply to #79327)
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i've tried to learn to fingerpick with thumb pick on, but i had problems with doing bass part with my thumb and melody with my fingers.
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PEZ
Posted 2007-10-12 1:56 AM (#79362 - in reply to #79327)
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If just cramping switching guitars will help.
You need to see a hand doctor.
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Beal
Posted 2007-10-12 8:19 AM (#79363 - in reply to #79327)
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work on a little slide, that might ease the left hand a bit.
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gulfcoast
Posted 2007-10-12 8:31 AM (#79364 - in reply to #79327)
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Open tunings have made playing easer on my fretting hand.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-12 5:22 PM (#79365 - in reply to #79327)
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i will sell my electrics, because none of them could match - comfort wise - neck of my Legend.
when i was in guitar shop today i've found very good guitar (for it's price) with very thin neck - it's a samick Torino 4 [or sth like this] - duncand designed humbuckers, gold grover tuners etc, and all for less than 400$ (at first, there was no price sticked to this guitar and i thought it's at least 3 times more expensive).
i think i'll buy it, throw out that "duncan designed" humbuckers, throw in "regular" seymour duncans, both with ability to split coils.

btw.
now i know why that strat i've sold was worth so much - i didn't even feel that i was playing on it. now i feel every single note :-(
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