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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | All wood
Built in California
Limited to 25
That’s all I know
Prices Effective Jan1, 2019 All limited production models are subject to prior sale.
High-quality, hand-selected tonewoods are the foundation of any finely crafted acoustic instrument. This is a shared commonality among storied acoustic guitar and drum makers. When Ovation joined the Drum Workshop family of brands in 2015, a new era for the legacy brand was created. Both award-winning companies are focused on supplying the music world with a reliable, player-friendly instrument that is at the same time versatile and sonically distinctive. To that end, Ovation is proud to announce the Limited Edition Californian. Staying true to its namesake, the guitar is expertly hand-crafted in California of stunning European flamed maple with a solid Moonwood spruce top. Ovation’s trademark headstock and multi-port, Elite sound hole design don the first-ever all wood model. Only 25 numbered guitars will be produced worldwide. |
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1453
Location: Texas | “all wood”?
No lyrachord?
Does it have a bowl back?
(I guess we’ll find out soon?) |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111
Location: Nashville TN. | interesting |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 563
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | Hello, Everyone,
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't alpep have an early Ovation prototype, "all wood", guitar for sale on his website already? Alvarez-Yairi also made an all wooden, bowl-back guitar, c. 1980? This is NOT a new idea, but hopefully, just a model made by DW just for this year, am I right? It seems that DW has once again forgotten Ovation history. Ovation guitars were/are still distinct because their backs are NOT FLAT, and...NOT WOODEN!
Mike S.,
Ottawa, ON.,
CANADA
Edited by Mike S. 2019-01-12 1:20 AM
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I realize we are all speculating, but I'm for anything that keeps the Ovation name alive as long as it's a decent instrument. The imports are fine, so this should be at least as good. Traditional? likely not... |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | No I don’t have any all wood ovation I do have a wood too adamas
No bowl on this one folks
I’ll send pics from namm |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 846
Location: Canada | I had the impression that OFC members were very supportive of the anniversary editions that DW rolled out of NH and I found them appealing. But an Elite top on a wood box really don't cut it. Good luck with selling the 25 at the proposed price as novelty items. I'm certainly looking forward to a review of its performance. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4025
Location: Utah | I'm not opposed to further experiments and special editions to build the brand, and USA manufacturing is always a good thing. Hopefully it is a good guitar that generates good publicity. However, I will not not be purchasing one. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | I’ll post a full report
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769
Location: When?? | A flat-back, all-wood, acoustic Ovation? I think we've all pictured such an animal at one time or another. I know I have, and I'm amazed it has taken this long to manifest in the open. With enormous respect to the history of Charlie on forward, and to the traditional heritage we've all spent a half-century being a part of as loyal Ovationists, I for one sense a wind of future generations of players, and speculate that this unveiling could possibly end up representing one of our brand's finest hours. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192
Location: Phoenix AZ | It'll be interesting, maybe amusing, good topic for chatter ... but it will certainly NOT be a USA Ovation to anyone who has loved and supported the brand for the last half century. CLICK |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654
Location: SoCal | Samova (from this board) built one about 10 years ago. Elite top on a wood body, with an Adamas I neck. Interesting guitar and he said it sounded good. But it wasn't an Ovation.... |
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Joined: August 2011 Posts: 887
Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | So what then would set Ovation apart from any of the other wood backed guitars out there?? Where would be the distinctiveness, sound and feel which we have all come to love?? NOWHERE!! |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192
Location: Phoenix AZ | Do you sell more guitars by being different, or by being the same?
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769
Location: When?? | @nerdydave - >>>Where would be the distinctiveness, sound and feel which we have all come to love?? NOWHERE!!<<<
Again, just speculation, but one might spin the wheel to guess that the roundback isn't going away. It could keep doing what it is today-- Asian made. They sell plenty worldwide. And who knows, maybe DW's California plant will get settled in and eventually spool up to make some nice roundbacks there, too, like they did in Connecticut before they packed it up and moved it all west and into one, consolidated and efficient-running operation where DW existed under roof in the first place. Fifty years from now, long after all us old geezers are buried and dust, these first 25 woods just might turn out to be our great-great-grandkids' most sought-after of Ovations, much like the limited edition models of the 60's roundbacks are to us today.
Edited by Love O Fair 2019-01-15 7:16 AM
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 846
Location: Canada | And who knows, maybe DW's California plant will get settled in and eventually spool up to make some nice roundbacks there, too, like they did in Connecticut before they packed it up and moved it all west and into one, consolidated and efficient-running operation where DW existed under roof in the first place. I think I missed the point about a California Ovation plant. Please elaborate. To me it's fairly mysterious where exactly these new USA Ovations were built. I think there was some speculation earlier that it was a contract to another Oxnard facility such as Guild or Larrivee. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The most I think about it, I don't see a down-side to introducing something new-to-the-Ovation-lineup style. Plenty of round back guitars out there. In fact, that's likely the BIGGEST problem. Why buy a new Adamas for over $4K when you can buy a nice used one for a little over $1K. Same for the USA Made non-Adamas models. The market is not only flooded with decent domestic Ovations, but new ones are also nice and affordable too.
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | I think I missed the point about a California Ovation plant.
As far as I know there isn't one.
Names for this new model????
The Clapp? Full Woodie??
Edited by Beal 2019-01-15 3:01 PM
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13983
Location: Upper Left USA | Yup, I should have patented that name... |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769
Location: When?? | @d'ovation - >>>I think I missed the point about a California Ovation plant. Please elaborate.<<<
Can't say as I've heard mention of a California plant limited ONLY to building Ovations, but DW has had product production established in California for decades, be they company-owned or contracted facilities. And since Al announced that these 25 USA Ovations were produced in California, the point would stand to reason they were constructed within the walls of DW's own existing facilities (or locally logistic-savvy resemblance thereof). The original Ovation production equipment and toolage DW owned in Connecticut may have been shoved into the river.. I don't know, I wasn't there.. but much more consider that any reasonably workable portion of it has likely by now been transferred to and retrofitted at home base in California. That's just Business Sense 101 should DW intend to continue with USA-made Ovations on any measurable market scale.
Edited by Love O Fair 2019-01-15 6:53 PM
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985
Location: Sydney, Australia | alpep - 2019-01-14 10:02 AM I’ll post a full report Can you get to the DW premises when you head West for NAMM? I, for one, and curious about where all the specialist equipment went. |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769
Location: When?? | Off topic-- anybody heard from Arthur lately? |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 1249
Location: Texas | 25 guitars. Yes, it will be interesting to see what they look like. As far as sound, uhm...Taylor and Martin will have one that is very close to whatever they come up with...oh and will make a helluva lot more than 25 of them. If there is an American side of Ovation...it will only be limited #s.
The bigger question for me is why.
There is no real money in making 25 guitars for a company like dw, especially since it is being done out of house.
There is a cool angle of having a wood Ovation, if all they make is 25....but that is only going to be cool to folks that think Ovation is cool. Obviously there are not enough of those people around or two companies would not have shut the doors.
Maybe it is the first domino to something bigger...or maybe next year DW will put Glen's name on it and call it iconic. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | I am rather certain these are NOT built in the DW facility.
they build ehhhhhh........DRUMS there...
the process is slightly different |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581
Location: NJ | good point
I have not seen arthur posting lately |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | good point
I have not seen arthur posting lately
No Lyrachord, no interest.
If I am gonna buy a woodbox, I could get a REAL woodbox... Like a Martin.
(BTW-- I own Seagulls and an a Taylor)
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | Old Man Arthur - 2019-01-16 12:39 PM No Lyrachord, no interest. What if we cover the back and sides with textured Bowl Paint? |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1553
Location: Indiana | Old Man Arthur - No Lyrachord, no interest. If I am gonna buy a woodbox, I could get a REAL woodbox... Like a Martin. (BTW-- I own Seagulls and an a Taylor ) Even if it's a really cool Larrivee/Ovation? Why would that not be a "real" woodbox? Hard to question my Ovation creds after 47 years. But I also have several non O's as well, and have considered this very option (O neck and top on a box) numerous times through the years. I may very well be a player for one of the 25. Got to have an O neck profile, though. We'll see....
Edited by Jonmark Stone 2019-01-16 6:24 PM
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1553
Location: Indiana | And... by the way, good to see you're still kicking, OMA. This place wouldn't be the same without you.
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769
Location: When?? | @alpep - >>>I am rather certain these are NOT built in the DW facility. they build ehhhhhh........DRUMS there...<<<
If they haven't hollowed out space in one of their existing enclosures, that's why I was thinking ""or locally-logistic-savvy resemblance thereof"". Someplace where ownership/management can easily access and actually stand in front of the process instead of thousands of miles away. Again, just speculation. And like TAFKAR said, " I, for one, and curious about where all the specialist equipment went." Me, too. Does anyone know if/when they cleared the last production out-building on the original Mothership campus, and what direction the trucks went?
It looks like OFC members are racking quite a curious laundry list of questions to be asked at NAMM, both for these roll-out 25 as well as any possible future production of the same strain of the breed. You should be getting press reporter's pay for this one, Al! |
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Joined: August 2011 Posts: 887
Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | OMA right on as always. No roundback not interested. And Miles is right on too. Lots of great used Ovations out there. That is the good news!! |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 1609
Location: Colorado | Just pm'd him - he is fine and dandy - his words....
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1553
Location: Indiana | elginacres - 2019-01-17 6:23 PM Just pm'd him - he is fine and dandy - his words.... |
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