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Location: SoCal | I'm bummed. I came home from church today to find my bedroom door closed. I opened it to find the most bizarre result of wind damage I had ever seen. We've got Santa Ana winds blowing thru right now, but this takes the cake. The wind blew a window in causing it to hit my 87 Collectors which was on a stand next to it, knocking the guitar down face first on the hardwood floor, which is how I found it.
My guitar, which was absolutely flawless, now has a crack (the wood split erratically) down the top.
Suffice to say, I'm really bummed about this. It will be interesting to see what the insurance company says. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Paul,
Wow, that is freaky...being involved with an insurance claim myself right now, all I can say is: best of luck! I am sure the mothership can make it right...but I know how you feel! Bummer! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Call Mother, but it will still sting.
Sorry Paul. That sucks big time. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Paul,
Youy might want to unstring it or at least detune it: I think I see a crack starting on the treble underside of the bridge as well...the less tension the better? Sorry my friend! |
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Location: SoCal | Mike, the first thing I did was detune. I'm bummed but this isn't nearly as important as what happened to your wife. How's she doing? |
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Location: Tennessee | :( :( :(
That's a real bummer Paul. The 87C was an immaculate masterpiece.
Well, a least you've now got a story to go with the guitar. It'll be sort of like loving the best dog you've ever had, even if he only has three legs. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Paul, man, I really don't know what to say. That is really a shame. Reminds me of when I sent my 1614 up to the mothership with a pristine top, and it arrived with a crack. Unbelievable! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Fu¢king OUCH.... Bummer, Paul.
I say, drink to forget!
...or better yet, try Crack Spackle |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Ouch, Paul...been there done that, and it hurts! |
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Location: Vermont USA | Hang tough ya gotta love a dog with three legs.
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Location: ms | Bad luck! |
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Location: ms | Makes me think of the Steve Goodman song " Santa Ana winds". Sad song but it always makes me feel good. |
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| So sorry! That's like a kick in the gut. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Sounds like a comp claim to your insurance company, although the pain is real. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Mike, the first thing I did was detune. I'm bummed but this isn't nearly as important as what happened to your wife. How's she doing?
Sorry Paul, I've been away from the computer all afternoon and evening...Thanks for asking.
She is getting better; but she is very tired today so I tried to get her to rest and I've been taking care of the kids until late this evening...the right side of her face looks rough...eye, RT. forehead, and eyebrow is black,green and yellow and she has a hemorage in the eye; her neck is some better but the large knot over her rt. ear is still tender. She is black and blue from the seat belt and yet she is determined to not let it keep her from doing: she went to both services this morning at the churches; it wore her out but everyone was glad to see her. We hope to hear from the insurance co. the first part of the week so we can get something to replace the Explorer. Day by Day we're making progress! Thanks again for asking. |
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Location: SoCal | Paul,
That is soooo sad...a beautiful instrument. Amazing that it affected you there. I would have thought that the other houses would have protected you.
I have been watching the coverage of San Diego County's fires all afternoon...this week is the anniversary of the Cedar fire of 2003 where we had to evacuate. Pretty smokey here. Shift of the wind to the south and we could have it come up the mountain (my backyard). As we appear to be going to less than 10% humidity tomorrow, will finally break down and get a humidifier tommorrow. Also detuned all of the non-Adamas. |
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Location: Vermont USA | Moody p.i. posted "It will be interesting to see what the insurance company says."
Send to Pauly |
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Location: NJ | OW!!
My Condolances.
Hope it all works out okay. |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | "Ouch!" is right, though profanity would come easily with such a discovery even to most not given to it. Sorry to hear/see the story. Yes, it's fixable, but it won't be the same.
Santa Ana is still peeved over Texas, I guess. |
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Location: Montréal, québec, Canada | OUCH badluck.....
IT's so nice to see all the collection on stands but this reminds to hide them in the case..
The saffest place : shockproof and weatherproof..
Good luck.
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Location: Nashville TN. | Wow that sucks
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Location: SoCal | You know, this was such a freak thing to have happen. I'm not going to gather up all my guitars and put them in cases. I refuse to live my life being overly protective. |
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| Good attitude. The ones in easy reach are the ones that get played. Of course I haven't had a guitar fall and break, so that's easy for me to say, especially since all mine are locked in on wall hangars out of reach of curious little hands, with the hangars screwed into concrete block walls using 3"-long tapcons. I still feel your pain. |
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Location: closely held secret | Paul, I hardly know what to say. I know how much that guitar meant to you, I even went back and reread the original thread about how you received it.
Your affection and praise for the 87 was the driving force behind me searching for and acquiring one (THANKS again, D'zilla!). I certainly know how I would feel if something happened to mine. The provenance behind yours makes it that much more special.
Practicalities. Have you contacted JB yet about repair options? |
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Location: SoCal | I talked with Kim. The guitar will need a whole new top to make it right. That also means a new bowl. It looks like the insurance company is willing to repair it. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | I'm happy and sad for ya Paul, I know Kim will make it better but still... |
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Location: closely held secret | So, new top, new bowl... new pickup, new preamp (Pro or Optima maybe? - be sure to get the XLR board).
20 years of playing/aging the top and it will be as if it never happened. |
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Location: Germany | Oh dear! Wonder why they can't replace just the top? I'm quite sure it has a screwed neck so it should be no problem to remove it from bowl/top and simply replace the top. Just a thought.
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Location: NJ | I don't think it was an accident at all . . .
. . . I think it "jumped". |
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Location: closely held secret | ... or was pushed by someone on the grassy knoll. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "...20 years of playing/aging the top and it will be as if it never happened..."
That extra 20 years may be great for the top but it'll be hard as hell on poor Moody. ;) |
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Location: closely held secret | By then he'll have conquered the elusive "4th chord". |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I know Paul does not want to hear this, but ...
If you put a whole new body on this, won't it just sound like a regular Custom Elite? No disrespect to the CE, but the 87C is certainly in a different league sound wise.
You know what Paul, maybe have them cleat it, seal it up as best they can and play on... Yes it will look like a somewhat beat up guitar but who knows maybe it'll sound wonderful?
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Location: closely held secret | Not a bad idea, Dave, but what's the differences between a CE and the '87 (besides mojo) that cause it to sound so good?
Bracing? Top wood? Kerfing?
(if it is just mojo, then I agree Paul... get the top repaired and treat it as a precious, but slightly disfigured loved one) |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | I'm so sorry it happened, Moody--I remember when my Gertrude had her unfortunate accident; "heartsick" doesn't really describe it, does it? :(
Is it absolutely necessary to replace the top? One way or another, the guitar is not going to be original, and if anything, Gertrude means more to me in her less-than-pristine state than before. When I toted her to the Mothership to be looked at, Kim discouraged me from replacing the top (she was about 17 years old at the time the split happened, and closer to 30 when I finally took her up to the Mothership to have her original "temporary" repair redone for good.) They did a wonderful job stabilizing the split, and it hasn't affected her ability to hold tune--or sound wonderful--at all. When she came home, you could hardly noticed it.
Just looking at things from a different angle....
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Location: Vermont USA | Hey fix the top chicks like guys with scars :confused:
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Location: NW NJ | I'm with Tuppy, Karen and Pauly - Get the ship to fix the top. 20 years is a lot of playing in to get the top broken back in... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I was trying to say something really important for my 5000th post, like "I bought Slothead # 45", but buying the Cayman last week put me a few years further behind on the guitar purchases. Instead, I was lying awake worrying about our SoCal friends (the news showed a fire burning down a hill to some houses that looked a lot like Tony's neighborhood) and I suddenly remembered G-Man, who had the 87 Collector's with the bad neck and fretboard that he was sort of trying to sell. Noah posted some of his pictures for him and I emailed him several times, but he never decided what to do with it. I will try to find his email address. His real name was Kyle and he lived in Milwaukee.
Anyway, my idea was that he has a decent bowl and top, but a bad neck. He might sell the parts and Paul could have the mothership make a really nice guitar out of the 2 of them, using his insurance payment. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Bummer Paul, I know how you loved that one!
...but after 5000 posts, maybe Mark has finally proved useful (unlike Jeffery W!) |
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(then Bite Me.) |
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Location: Vermont USA | "Keep your money in your shoes"
Better to put my feet in them.
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Location: south east Michigan | Paul...
No matter how you try and spin it, it's not a good thing.
I'm bummed for ya buddy. :( |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I talked with Kim. The guitar will need a whole new top to make it right. That also means a new bowl. It looks like the insurance company is willing to repair it. I'm not so sure that a new top and bowl is absolutely necessary. My CL had a big thru the wood crack in the top and the factory was able to refinish it and preserve the top. The crack is still visable but absolutely stable. Also the factory replaced the top on my 1537 but used the original bowl.
Keep in mind that even if the top can be saved, the guitar will need a new bridge which will not have the two bolts. I don't think that it will sound any different though. It's just that the new carved bridges are not quite as nice as the old ones.
Send it to the factory and ask to have the guitar preserved as much as possible.
Keep it all in perspective Paul. S**t happens. A damaged guitar is a whole lot better than a physical injury that would prevent you from playing guitar. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Mitchrx:
A damaged guitar is a whole lot better than a physical injury that would prevent you from playing guitar. And it's a lateral pass to Cliff! Will he run with it or hand it off to Jeff? |
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Location: SoCal | Mitch, you are absolutely right. In the great scheme of things, a damaged guitar is not that big a deal. People out here are losing their homes and a few have lost their lives.
I'll shoot the guitar out to CT in the next week and we'll go from there. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Ouch. That's too bad, Paul. Glad your place is safe though. |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Originally posted by Mitchrx:
A damaged guitar is a whole lot better than a physical injury that would prevent you from playing guitar. And it's a lateral pass to Cliff! Will he run with it or hand it off to Jeff? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Paul...
Just in case... keep that crack clean (notice my restraint) if the top can be repaired... it's the dirt in the crack that makes it most noticable...
Maybe some painters masking tape over it's length...
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| Wow - so sorry Paul.
I've always been jealous of you guys with enough room to leave guitars out on stands or hang 'em on the walls but for once I can see the advantage of my having to keep them in their cases.
Minimum fixing - it adds character like those old schoolday scars. Guitars are like us - you should be able to tell their age just by looking. Nuts to the plastic surgery, just get a few stitches and live with the scar. And put the rest of your guitars away until the Sant Anna moves on. I remember the strength of that wind even after 30+ years.
Coulda been worse - you coulda been sitting playing it. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Jewel's Mom:
at the time the split happened Karen's right. Split happens.
Stabilize the wound to make sure it will never get any worse. Now you got a 'road warrior' story making your guitar an official Road Dog.
Now, for FURTHER safety. I think you should ship all your guitars to a safer, wetter environment until things cool down. I suggest any member in the Washington State area.
(10%, across the border, right guys?)
Did I just say that out loud? |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Guys, guys, guys...
Really, it's about what's best for Moodys guitars.
It's not about who's right, or who's off key........
It's about family.
Now. Group hug. |
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Location: SoCal | That was real nice. I still ain't sending my guitars to Canada..... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | He can't.
I got his wallet in the hug.
What's this mark? Looks like you kept your ring in your wallet! |
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