Posted 2017-09-08 8:39 PM (#537355 - in reply to #537354) Subject: Re: Is this an early 70s Balladeer?
Joined: February 2014 Posts: 369
I would say it's a 1971 balladeer K1111,it's acoustic only with a winged bridge and looks just like a picture of a 71 balladeer on the ovationgallery.com website
the case is definitely newer,71 would be a brown case,I would look inside the bowl to see if its handlaid,look at the neck construction,bowl finish and type of tuners those will help date it.
A lack of label would lower the value for true collectors but from a players viewpoint how does it sound and play those are the most important to me
Posted 2017-09-09 2:21 AM (#537359 - in reply to #537354) Subject: Re: Is this an early 70s Balladeer?
Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15158
The Balladeers from those days had Kluson tuners while the Artists had Schallers. The guitar could be either as we can't tell the depth from the photo. The winged bridge definitely says 70-71, probably not later than 71. By 72 Ovation was selling acoustic electrics and had gone to the current style bridge. The bowls from that time were all hand laid and by the time of the winged bridge, all were also textured. The depth of the bowl and the tuners will tell if it is a Balladeer or Artist.
Posted 2017-09-12 1:36 PM (#537395 - in reply to #537354) Subject: Re: Is this an early 70s Balladeer?
Joined: October 2014 Posts: 150
I checked the guitar out this morning and, unfortunately had to reject it.
It has the shallower bowl so it's apparently an Artist, not a Balladeer; I was looking for a deep bowl. The cracks are more significant than the owner described. They're 4"- 6" long, longitudinal, one each side of the bridge and one below and aren't just finish cracks. The action is fairly high (I didn't bother to measure it) and the saddle is already pretty low, about 1/8". I didn't have a straight-edge but, sighting along the fretboard it points about to the base of the bridge.
In confirmation of it's 1971 vintage, it has a hand-laid, textured bowl, a winged bridge, and, from the remaining adhesive, appears to have had a rectangular label. I couldn't find any serial numbers inside or outside.
Oh well, maybe next time. Thanks for all the input.