Who's happier than hell?
Mario
Posted 2016-12-21 12:18 PM (#531380)
Subject: Who's happier than hell?


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That would be me! After collecting for the last few years (and I got a few good one's) and wanting a place to put them, I moved into my new place and finally have my own guitar room! Yeah there a bed in it but hell compromise I guess. The hangers are going up! I will post pics when I have something to show you all. Stay tuned.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-12-21 1:09 PM (#531381 - in reply to #531380)
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Congratulations, Mario! Can't wait to see the pics. Oh, and if you haven't already, you'll definitely need one of Patch's Ovation calendars on the wall in there.

Doh!... edit.. the next post I clicked on was you saying you got your calendar :-)

Edited by Love O Fair 2016-12-21 1:12 PM
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-12-21 1:26 PM (#531382 - in reply to #531380)
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Congrats. We had some friends over for a Christmas party last weekend and some asked to see "Mark's guitar room". Since it's the bonus room above the garage "Man Cave" just doesn't sound right. None of them were guitar players, so they probably found it more odd than interesting. The guitar room almost made moving worthwhile. The downside is that I've become even more of a couch potato.
There was a thread on guitar room suggestions. The only error I think I made was not allowing a couple more inches between the top row of hangers and the bottom. It's hard to take the 12 fretters off the bottom row without knocking into the guitars above them.
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Mario
Posted 2016-12-21 2:43 PM (#531384 - in reply to #531380)
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How far apart should they be? On one wall there will be only one row but on the other side there will be a top and bottom.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2016-12-21 2:57 PM (#531385 - in reply to #531384)
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Mario - 2016-12-22 5:43 AM How far apart should they be? On one wall there will be only one row but on the other side there will be a top and bottom.

I've attached mine to the studs, rather than relying on a plasterboard screw to protect my valuable guitars. If you run a board across, then you get to decide on the distance, but I'd caution against squeezing them too close, as you don't want to hold your breath everytime you take or replace a guitar.

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Mario
Posted 2016-12-21 3:33 PM (#531387 - in reply to #531380)
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Yeah thanks, that's what I am doing. I put the first board up this morning. Gonna do another one tonight and then put the hangers on.
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stephent28
Posted 2016-12-21 3:36 PM (#531388 - in reply to #531380)
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Yep, run a 1x4 about 10-12 feet secured to 4-6 studs and you will be golden with no chance of a hanger failing. Paint the plank to match the wall and even the lady of the house will be happy.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-12-21 4:04 PM (#531390 - in reply to #531380)
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What they said. Check the thread about man caves to see if there are any measurements between the top board and the bottom. I know there were some for side to side. I'll try to remember to measure mine tonight and post that. I had to start a little lower than I would have liked because there was a slight angle to the ceiling in the bonus room. The space between the top and bottom boards is fine for 14 fretters on the bottom and top. I could put the 12 fretters on top and also solve the problem, but I don't have as many. I just have to be careful taking them off the hooks.
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360Ovation
Posted 2016-12-21 8:46 PM (#531394 - in reply to #531380)
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Mario - 2016-12-21 12:18 PM

Yeah there a bed in it but hell compromise I guess.



Nothin' wrong with that... a bed can be a comfortable place to sit while playing...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-12-21 9:47 PM (#531395 - in reply to #531380)
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My two boards for mounting the hangers are 20 inches apart center to center. For hanging 12 fretters below the 14 fretters, I should have added an inch or two.
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Samuels
Posted 2016-12-21 11:42 PM (#531396 - in reply to #531380)
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Congratulations Mario!!! I'd listen to Mark, I just left his house this evening and he definitely has the nicest "guitar room" I've ever seen, he knows what he's talking about!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2016-12-22 7:43 AM (#531397 - in reply to #531380)
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Of course, guitar rooms look dull with just a bunch of guitars, so mine is also filled with neon signs, banners, metal signs, and other guitar collectibles, plus amps, mic stands and two sound systems to make it a complete practice room for the band. It is total guitar porn. But there is a downside. You need another storage area for all those guitar cases that aren't being used. I finally have a permanent plan in place to overcome this problem. Construction is now in progress and the cases are moving off site. More to follow later this winter or possibly spring.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2016-12-22 8:49 AM (#531398 - in reply to #531380)
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Dull was the wrong word. Guitars look much more prominent when mounted on bare walls. When I was in collecting mode, new additions would be recognized by SWMBO followed by defensive explanation and other forms of tap dancing on my part. Once I cluttered the walls with guitar related signs and junk, which also required that I move the guitars around to more open spaces, she could no longer keep track of what was new versus what had been moved. I went from 25 to 50 guitars without a lot of hassle.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-12-22 9:18 AM (#531401 - in reply to #531380)
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I like your approach, ProfessorBB. The shell game. Basically, keep the shells moving and she'll never be able to keep track of the nuts-- though in your case, simply eliminate the shells and move the nuts, right? Man, I can't wait to apply this method to the liquor cabinet.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-12-22 10:29 AM (#531406 - in reply to #531401)
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Congratulations Mario!!

When I was building the Nan-Cave, Damon gave me the measurement of 22.5 inches apart for the hangers, and it worked perfectly!

I can't wait to see your Casa de Mario!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-12-22 11:06 AM (#531410 - in reply to #531380)
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The Professor's Man Cave is over the top. Far too bright to be called a cave. Mine has to do double or triple duty. One side is car stuff and my wife's craft "room". It's really just a 6 foot desk, but it works well and keeps her happy. The Prof is right about that, too. We also share an entertainment center ($75 on Craigslist) that divides my acoustic and electric section. It's got a TV, stereo and bunches of tapes and dvds. A couch and 2 recliners for relaxing, but when Sam was there, we just used the guitar stools. Imagine that!
The Professor is right about the guitar cases. Our new house lacks storage space. The old one had a store room right next to the man cave. I made some space in the attic above the garage. It's a shame the builder didn't create access to it from the guitar room, so it has to be accessed from a pull down stair I built into the garage. The space is huge, but chopped up with roof joists and ductwork. It's not ideal and may be more of a problem as I get older, but I keep a couple of soft cases inside for regular use so I don't have to get up in the attic as much.

Edited by Mark in Boise 2016-12-22 11:08 AM
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Todd G.
Posted 2016-12-22 11:36 AM (#531411 - in reply to #531401)
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Love O Fair - 2016-12-22 8:18 AM I like your approach, ProfessorBB. The shell game. Basically, keep the shells moving and she'll never be able to keep track of the nuts-- though in your case, simply eliminate the shells and move the nuts, right? Man, I can't wait to apply this method to the liquor cabinet.

Yeah, but his "band room" is the coolest room I've ever been in.

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-12-22 1:40 PM (#531415 - in reply to #531380)
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SWMBO gave me "the look" when I used to show her pictures of other people's over the top Ovation collections, so I finally figured out that was counterproductive. If she saw the Professor's band room she'd probably go ballistic. Once she found a house she wanted she took an interest in replacing my man cave and even likes to show it off occasionally. I'm getting a new humidifier for Christmas, for example. I've learned the limits. If I get any more amps or guitars she gets pissed when it makes it difficult for her to vacuum. I could take over the vacuuming, hire a maid or stop buying so much. I chose the last option for now. I've been keeping one guitar in the office and at least one guitar and amp at the cabin during the summer, but the room gets pretty crowded this time of year.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-12-22 2:14 PM (#531416 - in reply to #531380)
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Mark, Do NOT buy her a new vacuum cleaner.
Just sayin'...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-12-22 3:31 PM (#531417 - in reply to #531380)
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OMA, you got no sense of adventure. Mark, you get her that vacuum! It will make her sooo happy!

Am I divorced? Well, yeah......
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Nancy
Posted 2016-12-22 3:45 PM (#531418 - in reply to #531417)
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moody, p.i. - 2016-12-22 3:31 PM

OMA, you got no sense of adventure. Mark, you get her that vacuum! It will make her sooo happy!

Am I divorced? Well, yeah......


Thank the Good Lord that I did not have a Mt Dew in this room when reading the last 2 posts! My keyboard is so sticky because of you guys!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-12-22 4:38 PM (#531422 - in reply to #531380)
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Wonderful husband that I am, I let her get a central vacuum system when we remodeled before we moved in. I wonder if it's too late to get her a second hose for Christmas, so she won't have to drag it upstairs.
Truthfully, the downsizing for retirement idea sounds great when the financial planners and realtors talk about it, but somehow we ended up in the hole and are still working. I haven't convinced her to keep working when I retire, either.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2016-12-22 5:44 PM (#531424 - in reply to #531422)
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I got her a sewing machine one year.

And, yes.... I'm divorced too.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-12-22 8:09 PM (#531427 - in reply to #531380)
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What will really, really send her over the edge is when she actually asks for a vacuum cleaner, and you get her the red plastic tub-type with caster wheels, long black hose, squeegee attachment and a "Craftsman" label. Trust me, you'll get it back (but that's the good part).
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FlySig
Posted 2016-12-23 9:46 AM (#531434 - in reply to #531380)
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Congrats, Mario! The bed will help with the acoustics of the room by absorbing reflected sound.
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Mario
Posted 2016-12-23 10:49 AM (#531436 - in reply to #531380)
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Thanks. Got the first 5 hung up and it just looks cool. I had to stop because we have guests over and so someone is sleeping in the bed so construction has halted for a short time. More to come.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2016-12-23 11:43 AM (#531437 - in reply to #531380)
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When I built the bandroom, I lined all the walls and ceiling with 1/2" acoustic board, then covered all of this with carpet. This made the room absolutely dead as well as kept the volume from entering the rest of the house above it. I thought it was too dead, but as I added guitars and metal signs to the walls, it added a bit more liveliness. I wouldn't recommend these steps unless the space is intended to be used as a genuine practice room or jam space.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-12-23 2:34 PM (#531440 - in reply to #531380)
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There have definitely been some great and famous recordings produced in rooms with a lot less visually appealing aesthetic than how the listener's ears will ever "see" it. When I built my first home studio I named it "Millend Studios" because we deadened the whole thing with mill ends of ultra thick upholstery fabric I got from a friend in the business. Boy, was that ever a flowery looking studio... but it worked quite nicely and was easy to adjust for various sound reflections and cornering.

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FlySig
Posted 2016-12-23 10:55 PM (#531453 - in reply to #531380)
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The music room in my new home is the dreaded cube, 10x10x10. Some foam in the corners has helped tremendously. Heavy curtains will go up over the window, and several areas of foam will go on the walls. A small couch also absorbs some energy. It will be a good sounding room before long.
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