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Joined: August 2011 Posts: 887
Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | I know this has been addressed before but I can't remember what was said. Is it currently possible to buy Adamas strings anywhere? In particular I am looking for 1818 light strings which I believe came as stock on my 1681-9. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | I see that some online sellers still show them, but not sure if actually available.
More interesting to me (I know this was discussed, but I'm too lazy to search) are they actually different than the DA's except for the ball ends and the packaging? |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Could it be that all the 100 different brands of strings come out of the same 3 or 4 suppliers?
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Location: Jet City | Standingovation - 2016-08-15 5:55 AM I see that some online sellers still show them, but not sure if actually available. More interesting to me (I know this was discussed, but I'm too lazy to search) are they actually different than the DA's except for the ball ends and the packaging? I was told they were true to the original spec. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | I have been trying to get info on them for months....... |
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Joined: August 2011 Posts: 887
Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | Thank you all for replying. I would love to pursue Standingovation's query as to whether they are really the same as DA's. Anyone know anything about that?? |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | In a post from 2009 by someone who might know (but can't spell) ...
"sopposedly the adamas 1818 are equal core and wrap where as the EJ16 are a bigger core wire. I use the two interchangeably" |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Sounds like that guy knows what he's talking about |
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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | Meaning the wrap on the Ej16 is smaller than the core?? And would this be of any consequence whatsoever?? |
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Location: closely held secret | More mass, perhaps, in the D'adds would have a greater effect on the soundboard. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 848
Location: Canada | Waskel - 2016-08-16 8:15 AM More mass, perhaps, in the D'adds would have a greater effect on the soundboard. Seems when someone gets a hold of a set they should measure length and weight maybe take a close up photograph of a string cross-section toofor some "scientific" comparisons. |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 1249
Location: Texas | "measure length and weight maybe take a close up photograph of a string cross-section toofor some "scientific" comparisons" Like restringing a guitar isn't a big enough pain in the ***... |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | The deal with equal core and wrap was that the string should vibrate more because of a little less tension. Yes the Daddario has a bigger core than the wrap. But this is only a thousandth or so difference. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | And if you are not playing plugged in you should insert a plastic dummy plug in the jack so all that extra tone doesn't escape through the 1/4 inch hole. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755
Location: Boise, Idaho | "String tubes" revisited. "Dummy plug" is an appropriate name for it in this instance. I've noticed that the D'Addario string with the red ball sounds better than the other colors. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Oh no! The gold ones are better. Another thing to keep in mind is keeping the inside of the bowl clean and highly polished to help the sound slide out more smoothly |
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Joined: February 2013 Posts: 176
Location: Cologne/Germany | As written elsewhere, they are available in Germany in all gauge sizes:
https://www.thomann.de/de/adamas_os1818.htm
They deliver to almost anywhere, so someone may try...
And it says Made in America, which does not necessarily mean the US, right?!
Edited by red-twins 2016-08-16 5:23 PM
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | red-twins - 2016-08-16 3:19 PM
And it says Made in America, which does not necessarily mean the US, right?!
Until now I had NEVER seen anything that said "Product Made in America".
"America" is really TWO Continents.
That is like saying "Made in Asia" or "Made in Europe".
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Joined: August 2011 Posts: 887
Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | Thank you all for your collective wisdom. Beal's comments were especially interesting. But now me just gonna put on some DA's and obsess no longer! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Good plan. The most important thing about strings is NEW. Old thudy dead never gets it. |
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Location: Pueblo West, CO | Unless old thudy dead is the sound you're looking for. Sounds perfect for getting that grunge sound... |
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Joined: December 2015 Posts: 287
Location: Katmandu | The Adamas strings feature identical core and wrap specs on the 5th and 6th string -- the idea being, I guess, that your low E string no longer outbooms your A string, and vice versa, in order to make for a better balance in terms of loudness and attack. Adamas Strings vs. D'Addario EXP16 vs. D'Addario Nickel Bronze
Edited by leonardmccoy 2016-08-18 2:06 PM
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6994
Location: Jet City | Leonard, It's the core and wrap that are the same dimension. not the E and A cores.
"Their Composite GaugingTM technique utilizes core and wrap wire of identical size so that neither part of the string dominates the various modes of string vibration. Thus, the strings vibrate more consistently and with greater amplitude to produce a sharper, more precise tone." |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Didn't realize Lenny was an expert.
So let's try this again. Equal core and wrap on the would strings. |
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Joined: August 2011 Posts: 887
Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | I am unable to see the equal core & wrap on the E & A cores to which he referred. Although Beal and Damon as usual are correct. |
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Joined: December 2015 Posts: 287
Location: Katmandu | I guess the ad text on the new Adamas strings can be somewhat misunderstood (see my image above), therefore the confusion. It reads, "The Adamas strings feature identical core and wrap specs on the 5th and 6th string," meaning, as Damon said, that the diameter of the core and that of the wrap are identical for each the 5th and the 6th wound string. The E and A strings aren't identical in terms of core or wrap diameters. |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | All I wanna know is...
Does the lighter core wrap mean lighter tension and more comfortable playing?
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Joined: September 2005 Posts: 98
Location: SF Bay area, California | Just yesterday I received a link to a Bellevue WA vendor of Ovations.
They list Adamas 1717 and 1818 strings (and 1749, without a description)
http://www.redblanketguitars.com/categories/Acoustic-Guitar-String-... |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4044
Location: Utah | Old Man Arthur - 2016-08-19 12:03 AM
All I wanna know is...
Does the lighter core wrap mean lighter tension and more comfortable playing?
That's my guess. Thinner core needs less tension for any particular pitch. But is it enough to feel the difference? Dunno that. |
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1034
Location: Yokohama, Japan | MarkM - 2016-08-18 4:53 PM
Just yesterday I received a link to a Bellevue WA vendor of Ovations. They list Adamas 1717 and 1818 strings (and 1749, without a description)
http://www.redblanketguitars.com/categories/Acoustic-Guitar-String-Sets-10_30_69.html
I hope you all don't mind my chiming-in, but the super nice "red blanket" guy (who also happens to photograph guitars...well, Ovations...beautifully - quite a player as well, from what I've heard) was really helpful; and so I went ahead and ordered a dozen 1919Es. He's even agreed to send them to Japan! I used to love the 1919Es, and put them on all of my acoustic guitars before I ever tried the D'Addys. I've never done a head-to-head comparison so can't say for sure if the sound is noticeably different, but I do prefer the non-color coded end-beads. Besides I can't get Adamas strings over here in Japan anymore unless I'm willing to pay exorbitant prices for remnant stock from yester-year. Since DW is the supply source for these, I figured the purchase couldn't hurt. I'm gonna do my head-to-head comparison when the strings arrive in a week or two! The Mothership's resurrection is inspiring OFCers in more ways than one! Way Cool!
Edited by arumako 2016-08-20 3:20 AM
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | arumako - 2016-08-20 3:13 AM
MarkM - 2016-08-18 4:53 PM
Just yesterday I received a link to a Bellevue WA vendor of Ovations. They list Adamas 1717 and 1818 strings (and 1749, without a description)
http://www.redblanketguitars.com/categories/Acoustic-Guitar-String-Sets-10_30_69.html I hope you all don't mind my chiming-in, but the super nice "red blanket" guy (who also happens to photograph guitars...well, Ovations...beautifully - quite a player as well, from what I've heard) was really helpful; and so I went ahead and ordered a dozen 1919Es. He's even agreed to send them to Japan! I used to love the 1919Es, and put them on all of my acoustic guitars before I ever tried the D'Addys. I've never done a head-to-head comparison so can't say for sure if the sound is noticeably different, but I do prefer the non-color coded end-beads. Besides I can't get Adamas strings over here in Japan anymore unless I'm willing to pay exorbitant prices for remnant stock from yester-year. Since DW is the supply source for these, I figured the purchase couldn't hurt. I'm gonna do my head-to-head comparison when the strings arrive in a week or two! The Mothership's resurrection is inspiring OFCers in more ways than one! Way Cool!
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Congratulations Arumako!! I just bought a 12 string, (Not an Adamas, but just as Sweet!), and now I know where to get my Adamas Strings for 12'ers and my Regulars. I am SO Happy that Adamas Strings are back, and that we can get nice, fresh ones, and from a Family Member to Boot!!! Keep it all in the Family, and help Ovation at the same time! |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1802
Location: When?? | Great news. Thanks, Mark! |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 566
Location: Denmark | Several european web shops sell Adamas strings. Considering the price level of Ovation/Adamas over here the strings might be the closest many will ever get to owning something Adamas. I never tried the strings. Do they sound different from other phosphor bronze strings? They (the manufacturer) do seem to emphasize that the core and wrapping wire is the same diameter but I don't know if that is not the case for other brands. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582
Location: NJ | I ship internationally!!! |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | And Al does a great job of it. Been buying from him for years like many of us here. Never disappointed. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | ditto for Al |
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