Adamas strings
nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-14 11:43 PM (#528204)
Subject: Adamas strings


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I know this has been addressed before but I can't remember what was said. Is it currently possible to buy Adamas strings anywhere? In particular I am looking for 1818 light strings which I believe came as stock on my 1681-9.
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-08-15 7:55 AM (#528206 - in reply to #528204)
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I see that some online sellers still show them, but not sure if actually available.

More interesting to me (I know this was discussed, but I'm too lazy to search) are they actually different than the DA's except for the ball ends and the packaging?
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Slipkid
Posted 2016-08-15 9:16 AM (#528207 - in reply to #528204)
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Could it be that all the 100 different brands of strings come out of the same 3 or 4 suppliers?
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Damon67
Posted 2016-08-15 12:25 PM (#528210 - in reply to #528206)
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Standingovation - 2016-08-15 5:55 AM I see that some online sellers still show them, but not sure if actually available. More interesting to me (I know this was discussed, but I'm too lazy to search) are they actually different than the DA's except for the ball ends and the packaging?

 

I was told they were true to the original spec. 

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alpep
Posted 2016-08-15 12:31 PM (#528211 - in reply to #528204)
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I have been trying to get info on them for months.......
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-15 12:46 PM (#528212 - in reply to #528204)
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Thank you all for replying. I would love to pursue Standingovation's query as to whether they are really the same as DA's. Anyone know anything about that??
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-08-15 3:07 PM (#528214 - in reply to #528204)
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In a post from 2009 by someone who might know (but can't spell) ...

"sopposedly the adamas 1818 are equal core and wrap where as the EJ16 are a bigger core wire. I use the two interchangeably"
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-15 3:35 PM (#528215 - in reply to #528204)
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Sounds like that guy knows what he's talking about
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-15 10:58 PM (#528225 - in reply to #528204)
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Meaning the wrap on the Ej16 is smaller than the core?? And would this be of any consequence whatsoever??
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Waskel
Posted 2016-08-16 8:15 AM (#528228 - in reply to #528204)
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More mass, perhaps, in the D'adds would have a greater effect on the soundboard.
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d'ovation
Posted 2016-08-16 9:09 AM (#528230 - in reply to #528228)
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Waskel - 2016-08-16 8:15 AM More mass, perhaps, in the D'adds would have a greater effect on the soundboard.

Seems when someone gets a hold of a set they should measure length and weight maybe take a close up photograph of a string cross-section toofor some "scientific" comparisons.

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jay
Posted 2016-08-16 9:59 AM (#528231 - in reply to #528230)
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"measure length and weight maybe take a close up photograph of a string cross-section toofor some "scientific" comparisons"

Like restringing a guitar isn't a big enough pain in the ***...

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Beal
Posted 2016-08-16 12:26 PM (#528232 - in reply to #528204)
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The deal with equal core and wrap was that the string should vibrate more because of a little less tension. Yes the Daddario has a bigger core than the wrap. But this is only a thousandth or so difference.
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-08-16 2:49 PM (#528234 - in reply to #528204)
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And if you are not playing plugged in you should insert a plastic dummy plug in the jack so all that extra tone doesn't escape through the 1/4 inch hole.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-08-16 3:41 PM (#528238 - in reply to #528204)
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"String tubes" revisited. "Dummy plug" is an appropriate name for it in this instance. I've noticed that the D'Addario string with the red ball sounds better than the other colors.
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-16 3:48 PM (#528239 - in reply to #528204)
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Oh no! The gold ones are better. Another thing to keep in mind is keeping the inside of the bowl clean and highly polished to help the sound slide out more smoothly
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red-twins
Posted 2016-08-16 5:19 PM (#528240 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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As written elsewhere, they are available in Germany in all gauge sizes:

https://www.thomann.de/de/adamas_os1818.htm

They deliver to almost anywhere, so someone may try...

And it says Made in America, which does not necessarily mean the US, right?!

Edited by red-twins 2016-08-16 5:23 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-08-16 8:18 PM (#528244 - in reply to #528240)
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red-twins - 2016-08-16 3:19 PM

And it says Made in America, which does not necessarily mean the US, right?!

Until now I had NEVER seen anything that said "Product Made in America".
"America" is really TWO Continents.
That is like saying "Made in Asia" or "Made in Europe".
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-17 1:29 AM (#528248 - in reply to #528204)
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Thank you all for your collective wisdom. Beal's comments were especially interesting. But now me just gonna put on some DA's and obsess no longer!
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-18 9:13 AM (#528273 - in reply to #528204)
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Good plan. The most important thing about strings is NEW. Old thudy dead never gets it.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-08-18 10:35 AM (#528274 - in reply to #528204)
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Unless old thudy dead is the sound you're looking for. Sounds perfect for getting that grunge sound...
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leonardmccoy
Posted 2016-08-18 1:58 PM (#528277 - in reply to #528204)
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The Adamas strings feature identical core and wrap specs on the 5th and 6th string -- the idea being, I guess, that your low E string no longer outbooms your A string, and vice versa, in order to make for a better balance in terms of loudness and attack.

Adamas Strings vs. D'Addario EXP16 vs. D'Addario Nickel Bronze

Adamas Strings vs. D'Addario EXP 16 vs. D'Addario Nickel Bronze



Edited by leonardmccoy 2016-08-18 2:06 PM
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Damon67
Posted 2016-08-18 2:12 PM (#528278 - in reply to #528204)
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Leonard, It's the core and wrap that are the same dimension. not the E and A cores.

"Their Composite GaugingTM technique utilizes core and wrap wire of identical size so that neither part of the string dominates the various modes of string vibration. Thus, the strings vibrate more consistently and with greater amplitude to produce a sharper, more precise tone."
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-18 9:57 PM (#528279 - in reply to #528204)
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Didn't realize Lenny was an expert.
So let's try this again. Equal core and wrap on the would strings.
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-18 10:49 PM (#528280 - in reply to #528204)
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I am unable to see the equal core & wrap on the E & A cores to which he referred. Although Beal and Damon as usual are correct.
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leonardmccoy
Posted 2016-08-19 12:54 AM (#528281 - in reply to #528204)
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I guess the ad text on the new Adamas strings can be somewhat misunderstood (see my image above), therefore the confusion. It reads, "The Adamas strings feature identical core and wrap specs on the 5th and 6th string," meaning, as Damon said, that the diameter of the core and that of the wrap are identical for each the 5th and the 6th wound string. The E and A strings aren't identical in terms of core or wrap diameters.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-08-19 1:03 AM (#528282 - in reply to #528204)
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All I wanna know is...
Does the lighter core wrap mean lighter tension and more comfortable playing?
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MarkM
Posted 2016-08-19 2:53 AM (#528283 - in reply to #528204)
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Just yesterday I received a link to a Bellevue WA vendor of Ovations.
They list Adamas 1717 and 1818 strings (and 1749, without a description)

http://www.redblanketguitars.com/categories/Acoustic-Guitar-String-...
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FlySig
Posted 2016-08-19 7:50 PM (#528288 - in reply to #528282)
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Old Man Arthur - 2016-08-19 12:03 AM

All I wanna know is...
Does the lighter core wrap mean lighter tension and more comfortable playing?


That's my guess. Thinner core needs less tension for any particular pitch. But is it enough to feel the difference? Dunno that.
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arumako
Posted 2016-08-20 3:13 AM (#528291 - in reply to #528283)
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MarkM - 2016-08-18 4:53 PM

Just yesterday I received a link to a Bellevue WA vendor of Ovations.
They list Adamas 1717 and 1818 strings (and 1749, without a description)

http://www.redblanketguitars.com/categories/Acoustic-Guitar-String-Sets-10_30_69.html


I hope you all don't mind my chiming-in, but the super nice "red blanket" guy (who also happens to photograph guitars...well, Ovations...beautifully - quite a player as well, from what I've heard) was really helpful; and so I went ahead and ordered a dozen 1919Es. He's even agreed to send them to Japan! I used to love the 1919Es, and put them on all of my acoustic guitars before I ever tried the D'Addys. I've never done a head-to-head comparison so can't say for sure if the sound is noticeably different, but I do prefer the non-color coded end-beads. Besides I can't get Adamas strings over here in Japan anymore unless I'm willing to pay exorbitant prices for remnant stock from yester-year. Since DW is the supply source for these, I figured the purchase couldn't hurt. I'm gonna do my head-to-head comparison when the strings arrive in a week or two! The Mothership's resurrection is inspiring OFCers in more ways than one! Way Cool!



Edited by arumako 2016-08-20 3:20 AM
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Nancy
Posted 2016-08-20 10:34 AM (#528292 - in reply to #528291)
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arumako - 2016-08-20 3:13 AM

MarkM - 2016-08-18 4:53 PM

Just yesterday I received a link to a Bellevue WA vendor of Ovations.
They list Adamas 1717 and 1818 strings (and 1749, without a description)

http://www.redblanketguitars.com/categories/Acoustic-Guitar-String-Sets-10_30_69.html


I hope you all don't mind my chiming-in, but the super nice "red blanket" guy (who also happens to photograph guitars...well, Ovations...beautifully - quite a player as well, from what I've heard) was really helpful; and so I went ahead and ordered a dozen 1919Es. He's even agreed to send them to Japan! I used to love the 1919Es, and put them on all of my acoustic guitars before I ever tried the D'Addys. I've never done a head-to-head comparison so can't say for sure if the sound is noticeably different, but I do prefer the non-color coded end-beads. Besides I can't get Adamas strings over here in Japan anymore unless I'm willing to pay exorbitant prices for remnant stock from yester-year. Since DW is the supply source for these, I figured the purchase couldn't hurt. I'm gonna do my head-to-head comparison when the strings arrive in a week or two! The Mothership's resurrection is inspiring OFCers in more ways than one! Way Cool!



+1

Congratulations Arumako!! I just bought a 12 string, (Not an Adamas, but just as Sweet!), and now I know where to get my Adamas Strings for 12'ers and my Regulars. I am SO Happy that Adamas Strings are back, and that we can get nice, fresh ones, and from a Family Member to Boot!!! Keep it all in the Family, and help Ovation at the same time!
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-08-21 12:42 AM (#528300 - in reply to #528204)
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Great news. Thanks, Mark!
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tpa
Posted 2016-08-21 5:45 AM (#528305 - in reply to #528204)
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Several european web shops sell Adamas strings. Considering the price level of Ovation/Adamas over here the strings might be the closest many will ever get to owning something Adamas. I never tried the strings. Do they sound different from other phosphor bronze strings? They (the manufacturer) do seem to emphasize that the core and wrapping wire is the same diameter but I don't know if that is not the case for other brands.
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alpep
Posted 2016-08-21 10:34 AM (#528316 - in reply to #528204)
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I ship internationally!!!
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-24 8:58 AM (#528367 - in reply to #528204)
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And Al does a great job of it. Been buying from him for years like many of us here. Never disappointed.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2016-08-24 3:45 PM (#528378 - in reply to #528204)
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ditto for Al
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