Explain to me
Andrea
Posted 2007-11-18 10:13 PM (#73760)
Subject: Explain to me


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How does this work ..................
Playing girly football you all wear shoulder pads , shin pads , and a big **** off crash helmet but riding a 650 Harley at 70 mph you lot are in a T shirt and shorts
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cliff
Posted 2007-11-18 10:23 PM (#73761 - in reply to #73760)
Subject: Re: Explain to me


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Insurance.
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-11-18 10:24 PM (#73762 - in reply to #73760)
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Here in New Jersey we are required to wear the helmet along with the t-shirt and shorts; me, personally, I wouldn't get on a bike with anything less than full body armor, if you could get me on one at all. (Cars, deer and bear have no respect for anything that walks, runs, or motors along on two wheels......) Where I live, we've had way too people killed in biking accidents lately....

--Karen
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Andrea
Posted 2007-11-18 11:05 PM (#73763 - in reply to #73760)
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Karen i totally get what your saying , i had a bike up till a couple of years ago , i lent it to a friend and they came off and had very luckey escape but the bike was a right off , also i worked with people who had a brain injury and for the most part it was young blokes who
a) Kicked the living **** out of each other
b) Drunk drove
or old blokes mown down by well er people driving nissan terranos
but but but still want to hop on a harley with no hemet and ride to alaska
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-11-18 11:37 PM (#73764 - in reply to #73760)
Subject: Re: Explain to me


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Been riding since the 70's and never understood the t-shirt'n shorts thing. Screw safety, it's just not comfortable, at least for me it isn't. Of course I'm a A.G.A.T (All Gear All-the-Time) guy.

At the same time, how did dressing up in a leotard two sizes too small, padding stuffed everywhere, and wearing mascara, to run around a field with a little ball, become the epitome of "the manly sport" of football..

In the voice of Craig Ferguson..
Wearing a tight leotard.... padding... mascara...
Remiiiind you of anyone????
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Nils
Posted 2007-11-19 1:29 AM (#73765 - in reply to #73760)
Subject: Re: Explain to me


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Originally posted by Andrea:
How does this work ..................
Playing girly football you all wear shoulder pads , shin pads , and a big **** off crash helmet but riding a 650 Harley at 70 mph you lot are in a T shirt and shorts
People who ride a bike in T shirts & shorts have never fallen off- yet. There's no such thing as a 650 Harley.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-11-19 1:40 AM (#73766 - in reply to #73760)
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Luckily, when I wrecked my one-and-only '82 650 Yamaha, I was wearing a Helmet and Leather Jacket (in the summer, as always). And I still broke my jaw in three places! (3/4 helmet) But I'm alive to ride again.

I see folk riding with shorts and flip-flops! If they are at a stop light, I do tell them they are idiots!

Motorcycle Truth-- It is not "If you wreck"... It is "When you wreck!"
Cuz you will... Eventually everyone does!
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2007-11-19 1:47 AM (#73767 - in reply to #73760)
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Girly football?
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John B
Posted 2007-11-19 10:00 AM (#73768 - in reply to #73760)
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....what Karen said.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-11-19 1:25 PM (#73769 - in reply to #73760)
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I understand in the emergency room they're called 'Donor-cycles.'
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an4340
Posted 2007-11-19 1:36 PM (#73770 - in reply to #73760)
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What Old Man said is true about the wreck thing.

I sold my bike when I slid underneath a car. No broken bones but had the skin flayed off my legs. Sold the bike. Didn't want to tempt my luck again.

I was wearing boots and thick jeans. T-shirt and helmet.

As to football, it's a ridiculous game played by steriod puffed giants. They wear the pads because the hits could be fatal, especially if you're a normal person.

The footballers wear all that gear because they are more valuable than a motorcyclist.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-11-19 1:53 PM (#73771 - in reply to #73760)
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My nephew is still recovering from his wreck. Had a full-face helmet and a jacket on, but broke his arm in several places when he thinks the engine seized on his dirt bike. His pal got it all on video. He's a mechanic and after 4 months he still can't lift his arm over his head, so he may lose his job and career. Our bodies just aren't made to crash into stuff at 50 mph, helmet or not.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-11-19 3:13 PM (#73772 - in reply to #73760)
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Horses are more fun, cheaper to insure, and they can find their own way home when you're drunk.


Must get one some day.
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bvince
Posted 2007-11-19 3:23 PM (#73773 - in reply to #73760)
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... and then there was Chris Reeves.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-19 3:53 PM (#73774 - in reply to #73760)
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You know, that's not fair. It wasn't C.Reeves fault at all. The damn horse didn't have a wide enough stance for the moves it was trying to do.

Signed, Sen. Larry Craig
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-19 3:59 PM (#73775 - in reply to #73760)
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When you're not riding a motorcycle, you don't have to feed it. This appears to have adverse effects on horses.

Plus horses don't pass semi's as well, though they do pass other things.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-11-19 4:00 PM (#73776 - in reply to #73760)
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It should have just stayed on its side of the fence.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-19 4:05 PM (#73777 - in reply to #73760)
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Andrea, like Miles, I'm a AGAT guy. I don't take the 'Wing out unless I have my jacket, chaps, gloves and full face helmet. Yet somehow I manage to have fun. Yes, I know it's more dangerous than riding in a car, but so are a lot of things.

IMHO, anyone who rides in shorts and a tee shirt is a candidate for the Darwin Awards.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-11-19 4:09 PM (#73778 - in reply to #73760)
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Having owned dozens of motorcycles over a 40 year span, and having crashed numerous times, although only once since I stopped competitive racing, it is all about education, training and managing risk. Wearing improper clothing is an example of not managing risk very well. From personal observations, I don't see many riders without proper attire in Colorado. Some, of course, but the majority of riders I see, and 99% of those who I personally know, wear protective gear.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-11-19 4:14 PM (#73779 - in reply to #73760)
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Our senior pastor road a motorcycle until some little old lady backed over it in a Wal-Mart parking lot.

I don't know if he is planning on getting another one when the weather gets warm again.

He always wore a helmet, gloves and long pants.


Me I'll pass.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-11-19 5:47 PM (#73780 - in reply to #73760)
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Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
99% of those who I personally know
Now where's that ol' "1%er" badge?
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Beal
Posted 2007-11-19 5:52 PM (#73781 - in reply to #73760)
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I drove an motorcycle, once.
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First Alternate
Posted 2007-11-19 6:22 PM (#73782 - in reply to #73760)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
When you're not riding a motorcycle, you don't have to feed it. This appears to have adverse effects on horses.

I was surprised to read recently that many working cowboys view their horses as tools, not pets, and actually prefer ATVs for the same job.
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alpep
Posted 2007-11-19 6:26 PM (#73783 - in reply to #73760)
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someday I will tell you my bike wreck story...
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-11-19 6:27 PM (#73784 - in reply to #73760)
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I've been on one, two different times, two different sizes, different road conditions, both as a passenger. Didn't enjoy either time--and even the fact that I holding onto someone I liked very much wasn't enough to offset the fear factor. Cowardly? Maybe--that mode of transportation just is not for me, I guess. (Although I saw a bright metallic turquoise-colored three-wheeled one for sale awhile back that made me drool all over my steering wheel--then I figured out how many guitars I could buy for the price they were asking, and that was the end of that! Nothing like a good dose of perspective..... ;) :D )
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-19 6:28 PM (#73785 - in reply to #73760)
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and I'll tell you mine...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-11-19 6:55 PM (#73786 - in reply to #73760)
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If you'd ever played American Football (high school/collegiate and beyond), you'd understand...

I played football from pee-wee league through college... and most people can't truly appreciate the severity of impacts one constantly endures. I also played international club Rugby... NO COMPARISON with American Football... a little cauliflower-ear and the occasional shoe in the head is High Tea measured against being blind-sided by a Defensive End or clocked by an unseen tackler in full gear at full speed...

There are a staggering amount of former pro-players who are severely impaired as a result of their careers... Earl Campbell at 52 years old can't even walk (literally) and is just one of many others.

As for motorcycles... The annual fatality rate is nearly .0007% of registered riders. That JUST fatalities... not injuries. And though that number looks small... it's by orders of magnitude, more than automobile fatalities (about 25x the rate).
Which might suggest (among other factors) that even protective gear on a cycle has limited effect.

-Incidentally the fatality rate of football induced injuries is about .0000030%
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lanaki
Posted 2007-11-19 7:12 PM (#73787 - in reply to #73760)
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and the fatality rate for just being human is 100%
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-11-19 7:56 PM (#73788 - in reply to #73760)
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Wearing a tight leotard.... padding... mascara...
Remiiiind you of anyone????
Alice Cooper
Pauly
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-11-19 8:01 PM (#73789 - in reply to #73760)
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Andrea
Posted 2007-11-19 9:42 PM (#73790 - in reply to #73760)
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Wabbit , you got a wing ??, one of them massive bikes which has electric windows and air con, wow, they are just so heavy , but bright and always shiny and pristine, ive never seen one of those bikes which hasnt been gleaming and they are always ridden by people over 40 on Sundays . In the UK its the law to wear helmets and think its the heat and the pose factor here in Florida but i would say the majority i have seen are the flip flop t shirt brigade
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Andrea
Posted 2007-11-19 9:50 PM (#73791 - in reply to #73760)
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When you look at annual road fatalitys it is staggering, 70 young people bellow 25 every week in the UK , so must be way way way more than that over here . Human nature is that we over estimate very remote risks and under estimate immediate risks
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-11-19 10:42 PM (#73792 - in reply to #73760)
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I agree with Andrea - riding a bike in a T-Shirt and Flip-Flops is damn stupid - if you don't keep the rubber side down.

Human skin sliding over the asphalt acts like a vaccum cleaner that absorbs all the small stones and dirt - and leaves a very unlovable, burned appearing.

But, when it comes to a real crash, leather (not helmets) just protect you from that vacuum cleaner thing. A human body is still much more vulnerable than stone, metal etc..

I have always worn horsehide pants and jackets (no, I did not have to feed them), the best helmet you could get for money, Red Wing's steeltoed Engineer boots - but when this car came out of control and hit me- my wear just provided me from getting all the things mentioned above.

The guard rail was still a little more massive than me.

Til then, I am more the "sitting kind", but, hey, without my wear - would I still be that very handsome guy that I am :D :D :D ?

So, put your leathers on before kickstarting your bike!

Kurt
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-20 7:09 AM (#73793 - in reply to #73760)
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-20 8:33 AM (#73794 - in reply to #73760)
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US deaths 2004

Motorcyclists - 4018
Pedestrian - 5976
Intentional Self-Harm - 32439


Riding motorcycles in itself isn't as dangerous as a lot of other things people do. Of course accidents happen, and of course you're less likely to die surrounded by airbags. There are safer ways to ride than others, some people are just too stupid or lazy to learn or follow them.
Rock climbing is also popular. Those who do it irresponsibly usually spend their later years in wheelchairs or on life support, or on a shelf in an urn.
If Jeff didn't subscribe to safe practices in his line of work, he or other people could get killed.

Lack of common sense is the chlorine in our gene pool.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-11-20 8:59 AM (#73795 - in reply to #73760)
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truuuuuuuuue dat!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-11-20 10:35 AM (#73796 - in reply to #73760)
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Got any statistics for kids who just finished watching a Jackass movie?
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