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A few times now while going through the Bun & Run the car ahead of me paid for my meal.
I've paid for the guy behind me a few times also.
It's a good feeling either way.
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When ever I've tried to profit from what was a generous gift, it seems to have always come back to bit me.
Karma is real.
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Location: SoCal | I've seen a lot of kindness on this board. In the last 6 months I've given away 2 guitars and a viper case. I don't like selling to friends. Expanding on what Beal said, find somebody who wants or needs it, who can't afford it, and give it away. Karma.....
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Location: Texas | Dave, if memory serves me correctly, you benefitted from quite a bit of generosity (tangible and intangible) from some of the members of this board. Wouldn't you want to continue that good will and pay it forward? |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | On a different view...
Why would you just quit?
Cat Stevens quit (for a while) but he had converted to Islam...
Then he decided that quitting was a bad (dumb) idea.
And it ain't like you are gonna quit "touring". 
Now, if your fingers are getting arthritic or something like that...
That is when you move to Open Tunings and maybe a slide.
Or a dulcimer or one of those McNally sticks.
If you just wanna sell your guitar... That is another thing.
That is what the "For Sale" section is for...
Either way, I am sure that you will miss it when it is gone.
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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | This came out of the blue. Especially because you were so passionate in the past both about your guitars and your playing. But I do understand that you have to have the fire in your belly or playing is a meaningless activity. But what will Bob G. do when he doesn't have you to kick around any more? You have to factor in that fine gentleman's feelings before you commit to hanging up your guitar for good!! But either way best of luck to you in whatever other pursuits are currently calling to you and tugging at your heartstrings. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | If you physically can't play any more, or it gives you discomfort, then yeah, give it up. But if you're just tired of playing the same sh*t and going nowhere, then just put it in its case (with something to keep the humidity right) and put it in a cupboard for a few years. If you're able to play but just don't want to play, selling it would be a BIG mistake. Sounds like a nice guitar. Keep it. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Oh please, everyone. This is just another DaveKell attention seeking post, sort of like the one where he thought he was dying. Then suddenly his doctor finds that he 's perfectly healthy and he quits all his pain medication. It's also entirely likely that it's just a sneaky way to attract interest in a Guitar For Sale.
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Location: Canada | I think on the AGF he announced quitting many times sometimes for health, sometimes for money, sometimes for family reasons and often has been the recipient of guitar, amp, and cash donations as a result. The early suggestions to return those favours are spot on, especially in light of his recent windfalls. |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | Brad Durasa - 2015-05-18 10:12 AM
When ever I've tried to profit from what was a generous gift, it seems to have always come back to bit me.
Karma is real.
Here is a statement from the first post I made about this guitar: " I can pick it up for $300... maybe even less than that." This guitar wasn't a gift and didn't even come with a case. OMA turned me onto the Ovation gigbags I bought for it. I did recently give a guitar away to a kid that was originally given to me. However, on a disability income this one has to be sold. |
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Location: Texas | Yes, he has claimed that a fellow OFC'er helped him out purchasing a guitar here...then he shows up wanting to buy an ovation that will make everyone envious because "Money is almost no object if I find one that wows me." Which turned into tires for a powerstroke, a stroke, a quack, 20 year old arteries and proclaiming "Hell, you might actually like me now" In one post. |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | amosmoses - 2015-05-19 7:28 AM
Yes, he has claimed that a fellow OFC'er helped him out purchasing a guitar here...then he shows up wanting to buy an ovation that will make everyone envious because "Money is almost no object if I find one that wows me." Which turned into tires for a powerstroke, a stroke, a quack, 20 year old arteries and proclaiming "Hell, you might actually like me now" In one post.
Guilty as charged. The windfall had to go to paying for a surgery my son needed so bye bye new Ovation. The change left over bought needed tires for the truck. The emergency hospitalization when I suddenly couldn't walk upright produced the test results you accurately quoted. The fact is a lot of overwhelming life events have been occurring here. I've had to take stock of how I want to handle them and make some hard decisions. To set the record straight, the only benevolence I got on this board was a donation towards a fourth of the cost of a previous guitar I bought. The new amp was from someone who thought I sold him another guitar too cheap. Facts get distorted quick here. |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | darkbarguitar - 2015-05-19 5:15 AM
Oh please, everyone. This is just another DaveKell attention seeking post, sort of like the one where he thought he was dying. Then suddenly his doctor finds that he 's perfectly healthy and he quits all his pain medication. It's also entirely likely that it's just a sneaky way to attract interest in a Guitar For Sale.
I think he should quit the guitar, and begin writing his memoirs..."50 Shades Of Duane Allman"
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | DaveKell - 2015-05-19 7:23 AM: I did recently give a guitar away to a kid that was originally given to me. However, on a disability income this one has to be sold. I don't normally contribute to posts like these, but I just have to ask. You had a kid given to you that you now have to sell? |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | alpep - 2015-05-20 7:03 AM
beware of cyber solicitations
Exactly what have I solicited Al? All I recall is trying to get opinions on what the GCS771lx-C might be worth. Nothing more. As I said, I am making some hard decisions these days. Some things have to go in my life out of necessity. If that gives people fodder to ridicule me I feel sorry for them. I won't explain my situation further as it's personal and painful. |
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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | I might take the liberty to point out that Dave Kell does have some serious medical problems (I feel blessed in comparison)(my only problem being mental inadequacy). And it is always a possibility that these problems play a part in his decision to forego future Ovation pleasures. Who would make that decision unless forced to by circumstance? Having said this I for one will miss the differing point of views and controversies which were always sparked by his always interesting contributions. Even Bob G. will miss this colorful soul! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | It's always fun trying to figure out if one of us posted something when he was off his meds...or what meds he was on for that matter. I've seen one of my old posts occasionally and wondered what I was on when I posted that. Dave didn't reach Glenn's level, but he was headed toward the same ballpark. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mark in Boise - Dave didn't reach Glenn's level, but he was headed toward the same ballpark. Not sure I agree with that. Dave's issues always involved Dave while Glen's issues always revolved around Char. Whenever a guitar needs to be sold, incredible sickness and/or near death/death is brought into the picture to somehow raise the level of sympathy and I assume the price of the object being peddled. Probably works on newbies who haven't seen the same old song and dance multiple times but for anyone who has been around a while, I hope they have some intellegence and know better. Just my opinion with no factual basis unless one wants to puruse the hundreds of archived pages that might just prove a point. |
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Location: Texas | LOL...wash/rinse/repeat Dave shares a whopper Folks snicker in varying ways Dave tells of death and destruction Group hug Conanted again |
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People with frocked up life stories and a willingness to share it for all the world to see keeps others entertained. I'm sure each and every one of us has our own "story" but we all choose to divulge it differently, if at all.
Exactly. I don't understand this need to share personal issues with strangers on an internet forum.
It's also a little like that great golf axiom...."never whine to others about how you played. 50% of people don't care, 50% wish you had played worse, and 20% didn't even know you were playing. |
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Location: closely held secret | darkbarguitar - 2015-05-22 10:46 AM
Standingovation - 2015-05-22 12:35 PM
People with frocked up life stories and a willingness to share it for all the world to see keeps others entertained. I'm sure each and every one of us has our own "story" but we all choose to divulge it differently, if at all.
Exactly. I don't understand this need to share personal issues with strangers on an internet forum.
It's also a little like that great golf axiom...."never whine to others about how you played. 50% of people don't care, 50% wish you had played worse, and 20% didn't even know you were playing.
Except in this case it's more like, "never whine to others about how you were played."
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what new picture would be good for darkbar/ bobg/ and darkbar again .
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If guy wants to sell the guitar, shouldn't we tell him to just list it and not attack whether or not he is sick or whatever? I'm so confused.
Just list it. No narrative. Guess he either lied or shared too much personal story to be a valued contributor. Man. That's tough. Glad I didn't share when my dad died unexpectedly and at a young age. Just sad if we can't be human and empathize. I feel like I missed a lot of this story and it's buried somehow in the history of this forum.
To me, sometimes, it's easier just to sell my Os and As locally rather than even post them here. Sad. If he's so bad, can't we forgive him or ban him or something?
Just don't get it.
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I was just gonna suggest that TNG do a search with DaveKell's name, to track the story.
SEARCH
Also TNG... nowadays this is the Kinder-Gentler OFC.
Some of these old guys are just mean  Darkbar has even re-appeared.
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I just wanted to add that...
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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | I can see what you are all saying and understand the reasons for cynicism in light of all that has happened in the past but I still think we need to give Dave a break. He has been apparently dealt a harder deck to play -- you may disagree with the way he has played it. But no one needs to contribute to him if they don't wish to. We are a somewhat privileged bunch -- living in the richest country in the world and we have enough discretionary income to buy these fine guitars as our hobby/passion. I am perhaps a minority of one but that is fine. I have enjoyed the color which he brought to the forum. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Gee (nerdy)Dave, I don't think this rises to the level of a Family Tragedy.
DaveKell - 2015-05-18 6:01 AM
After a lot of thought I've decided to make a conscious decision to quit playing guitar.
I've accomplished everything I wanted to with my playing and it doesn't interest me as much as it used to.
I think that DaveKell is just saying that he is bored with playing guitar, so he is quitting.
When somebody posts something like that... They usually want people to try and talk them out of it.
Kinda like the "Does this dress make me look Fat?" question....
The person asking that question isn't looking for an affirmative answer.
I, and others, said for him to keep it. Beal said "Give it away". And other suggestions.
Just goes to show that this ain't the place to go fishing for compliments. 
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Location: Flahdaw | nerdydave - 2015-05-23 1:11 AM
we need to give Dave a break. He has been apparently dealt a harder deck to play
First of all, you don't KNOW that for certain, unless you're privy to his medical records. Otherwise you're only going by what HE says (and he has said so many conflicting things over the last couple of years that I don't know if he's dying, reborn, pregnant, a quadruple amputee, or just had his tubes tied)
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | arthurseery - 2015-05-23 1:58 AM
Gee (nerdy )Dave, I don't think this rises to the level of a Family Tragedy.
DaveKell - 2015-05-18 6:01 AM
After a lot of thought I've decided to make a conscious decision to quit playing guitar.
I've accomplished everything I wanted to with my playing and it doesn't interest me as much as it used to.
I think that DaveKell is just saying that he is bored with playing guitar, so he is quitting.
When somebody posts something like that... They usually want people to try and talk them out of it.
Kinda like the "Does this dress make me look Fat?" question....
The person asking that question isn't looking for an affirmative answer.
I, and others, said for him to keep it. Beal said "Give it away". And other suggestions.
Just goes to show that this ain't the place to go fishing for compliments.
I'll settle this for you and then maybe the moderators can remove it altogether. I'm not bored, I love playing guitar. I'm not trying to be talked out of it. The issue is I am rapidly forgetting a repertoire I've played for decades. The frustration level is more than I can take and the worry is driving me insane. And trying to learn anything new... well, they might as well beam me into space to the pilots seat of the shuttle with the command to land it perfectly with no training. I admit I have harped waaaay too many times on health issues. I was traumatized by a six month hospitalization with horrible complications from a botched 17th surgery. I was unable to consume a single molecule of food for a year following that. I couldn't watch tv because food commercials drove me insane. I said a long time ago I was a venerated elder on another forum pertaining to my life's work. We all shared a lot about our life on that forum and more friendships flourished there because of it. We truly knew each other. Your suppositions about me and my alleged motives here are entirely off base. I mistakenly misread the culture of this forum and carried my behavior from the other one into here. For that I'm sorry for the intrusion. All I asked in this thread was the possible value of an Ovation I have and the sharks swarmed, revealing more about their personality than mine. SInce I'm forgetting how to play I probably will visit guiytat forums much less, and will most likely only read instead of post. AFter all, what am I going to have to say? |
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Someone needs to post a "Best of DaveKell" thread, and produce a timeline of all your various ailments, injuries, diagnosis's, and cures. It's just so hard for us to keep it all straight, as I'm sure it is for you also. |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | darkbarguitar - 2015-05-23 7:15 AM
I thought you said the one doctor was found to be a quack, and that the new doctor pronounced you completely healthy? That you got off all your pain meds and are now feeling better than ever?
Someone needs to post a "Best of DaveKell" thread, and produce a timeline of all your various ailments, injuries, diagnosis's, and cures. It's just so hard for us to keep it all straight, as I'm sure it is for you also.
All true. First doc said I could have a stroke at any time. Then tests revealed healthy arteries and heart. My chronic pain spontaneously resolved and I rapidly tapered off of 5 years of morphine treatment. None of that has any bearing on what the human organism is capable of doing to itself on an ongoing basis however. I can't remember songs I've had mastered for decades so what's the use of enduring the frustration? Like I said, on another forum I've been on over ten years we discussed issues like this with each other routinely. This isn't the culture here. How many times must I apologize for the mistake? |
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Like I said, on another forum I've been on over ten years we discussed issues like this with each other routinely. This isn't the culture here.
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Location: Texas | Someone needs to post a "Best of DaveKell" thread, and produce a timeline of all your various ailments, injuries, diagnosis's, and cures. At #10 Got Testosterone? (Feb ’12) "Despite my age, my equipment still functions and my testosterone levels are high." |
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Location: Canada | The issue is I am rapidly forgetting a repertoire I've played for decades. And there I thought that was a normal process of aging. When I was in my teens and twenties I had some 50+ songs memorized that I could play with eyes closed in the dark. Now in my mid 50s I can do about 5 songs that I have most recently practiced and I don't play them from memory but need support of sheets. And I can't even remember what some those 50+ of my youth might have been (well I admit that I also liberally used some enhancing substances in those days, which may affect memory). This does not take away my enjoyment of learning new songs and trying to play those and annoying the odd audience, even if it's just a handful.
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Location: Pueblo West, CO | DaveKell - 2015-05-23 4:42 AMAnd trying to learn anything new... well, they might as well beam me into space to the pilots seat of the shuttle with the command to land it perfectly with no training.
It's the continued learning of new things that keeps our minds young.
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