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Beal
Posted 2015-04-29 11:09 PM (#509605)
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Hat guitar is my avitar yes you can be exact, you do have enough information
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TAFKAR
Posted 2015-04-29 11:34 PM (#509607 - in reply to #509605)
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I was going to ask about the fret markers. They look like little oil cans. What (if anything) are they meant to represent?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-04-29 11:45 PM (#509608 - in reply to #509605)
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I thought that they were little Erlenmeyer flasks.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2015-04-30 12:05 AM (#509609 - in reply to #509605)
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My understanding that the design came from Beal's now deceased wife's necklace.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2015-04-30 12:24 AM (#509610 - in reply to #509605)
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Neckless.

And there's another piece of trivia regarding Beal's guitar and an almost matching guitar of somebody else's (tho' I doubt if he would remember)......


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Tony Calman
Posted 2015-04-30 12:28 AM (#509611 - in reply to #509605)
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ALSO, CHECK OUT THE COMPLETE THREAD...

Beal

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only the first two had the necklace inlays and Glen has one and I have the other.

There were very few of these made that cas has. I have one that was an experiment to see if we could use straight polyester finish which was very hard and would cold crack easily. We put a layer of real fine glass cloth, soaked it in the finish and put it on the top. The whole thing was then put against a flat plate and a the air sucked out and allowed to cure. Result is a nice flat shiney finish that is reinforced. In the end we didn't use this approach, too hard to do it. I found this guitar several years ago and it still sounds great. Has a finish crack though....

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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-30 10:08 AM (#509620 - in reply to #509611)
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I am so very sorry Beal, so very sorry....

I Love that you used her necklace design as your fret inlays, that is SO Sweet!
Was the necklace something Special you or she had designed?
That is so touching!

When I lost my SoulMate - I designed a ring with a Heart with Wings on either side, and a ruby in the middle.
I never take that ring off.
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Beal
Posted 2015-04-30 10:11 AM (#509622 - in reply to #509605)
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I just thought it was a cool avatar, didn't mean to bring all this **** up again.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-30 10:18 AM (#509624 - in reply to #509622)
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It *is* a Cool Avatar!!

I was trying to enlarge it last night to see what it was, I came up with rounded tuning pegs.
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Beal
Posted 2015-04-30 5:25 PM (#509656 - in reply to #509605)
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Well it's gone now, guess what this one is.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-30 5:30 PM (#509657 - in reply to #509656)
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Your new 2 headed Ovation - I can see the inlaid abalone work!

Now, before I forget what it looked like - what were the fretboard pieces on the other one??

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Nancy
Posted 2015-04-30 6:56 PM (#509666 - in reply to #509657)
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And speaking of History....

I want to put some of the old print ads for Ovation and Adamas in the Nan-Cave, so I went to ebay to look for what I wanted, and Beal, you had some GREAT taste in boots! I saw ostrich, python, and several others I would have done bodily harm for when I was showing! I still have a great pair that I wear when I feel like kicking my heels up, or kicking some butt! Not good for snow though... it takes me too long to get up when I go down anymore.
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Posted 2015-04-30 7:57 PM (#509670 - in reply to #509666)
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naellis58 - 2015-04-30 6:56 PM
... it takes me too long to get up when I go down anymore.

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Beal
Posted 2015-04-30 8:55 PM (#509672 - in reply to #509605)
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Murgaboots.com
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Beal
Posted 2015-04-30 8:56 PM (#509673 - in reply to #509605)
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Murgaboots.com
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Beal
Posted 2015-04-30 8:57 PM (#509674 - in reply to #509605)
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It's worth sayin twice. tony is a great guy and a good harp player and guitar player. Buy some boots from him.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2015-04-30 11:15 PM (#509677 - in reply to #509605)
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Nancy... the inlay design on that headstock you like so well can be found on the 1996 collector... if you can find one. Called the "book" Elite because it is featured on the cover of the History of Ovation book.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2015-04-30 11:39 PM (#509678 - in reply to #509672)
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cwk2 - 2015-04-30 6:55 PM

Murgaboots.com

Just down off Crown Valley and the 5 freeway.....
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TAFKAR
Posted 2015-05-01 12:45 AM (#509680 - in reply to #509611)
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Tony Calman - 2015-04-30 5:28 PM

There were very few of these made that cas has. I have one that was an experiment to see if we could use straight polyester finish which was very hard and would cold crack easily. We put a layer of real fine glass cloth, soaked it in the finish and put it on the top. The whole thing was then put against a flat plate and a the air sucked out and allowed to cure. Result is a nice flat shiney finish that is reinforced. In the end we didn't use this approach, too hard to do it. I found this guitar several years ago and it still sounds great. Has a finish crack though....


I love that Ovation were constantly experimenting in those days, to see what was possible. I hope DW take the same attitude into the future.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-01 8:13 AM (#509685 - in reply to #509677)
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Jonmark Stone - 2015-04-30 11:15 PM

Nancy... the inlay design on that headstock you like so well can be found on the 1996 collector... if you can find one. Called the "book" Elite because it is featured on the cover of the History of Ovation book.


Thank You Jonmark!!! I love that inlay on the headstock!
I will go look at Ovation Tribute, I have it written down on my "List" for a Custom when we can make one!!
Thank You!!!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-01 8:14 AM (#509686 - in reply to #509680)
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richard.parker - 2015-05-01 12:45 AM

Tony Calman - 2015-04-30 5:28 PM

There were very few of these made that cas has. I have one that was an experiment to see if we could use straight polyester finish which was very hard and would cold crack easily. We put a layer of real fine glass cloth, soaked it in the finish and put it on the top. The whole thing was then put against a flat plate and a the air sucked out and allowed to cure. Result is a nice flat shiney finish that is reinforced. In the end we didn't use this approach, too hard to do it. I found this guitar several years ago and it still sounds great. Has a finish crack though....


I love that Ovation were constantly experimenting in those days, to see what was possible. I hope DW take the same attitude into the future.


It makes you believe anything and everything is possible! They had the brainpower, and drive to try anything!
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Beal
Posted 2015-05-01 11:07 AM (#509688 - in reply to #509605)
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That one is off a book longneck I bough from a member here

The other neck inlay can be seen on Glen's guitar in the book except his are both facing up, not at each other. They were too expensive to make so we scrubbed the idea. That was back in the 80s. It was just a cool design. Other parts of the story too but not relevant for here.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2015-05-01 2:32 PM (#509696 - in reply to #509674)
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cwk2 - 2015-04-30 6:57 PM

It's worth sayin twice. tony is a great guy and a good harp player and guitar player. Buy some boots from him.


One of the best pieces of non-guitar related advise that my feet have received on this board... they've been happy happy ever since.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-01 2:34 PM (#509697 - in reply to #509688)
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cwk2 - 2015-05-01 11:07 AM

The other neck inlay can be seen on Glen's guitar in the book except his are both facing up, not at each other. They were too expensive to make so we scrubbed the idea. That was back in the 80s. It was just a cool design.


Page 82, 'Behind the Scenes' - I see the difference from yours, but it is still not big enough to see clearly what the design actually is, but it does look cool.

The fret inlays from the 1157 Anniversary (snowflake?) are gorgeous, and look like they would be hard to inlay, but they sure catch your eye!

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Beal
Posted 2015-05-01 3:01 PM (#509700 - in reply to #509605)
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Just do a square hole with black glue
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-01 3:05 PM (#509701 - in reply to #509700)
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Ahhhhhhh!

I was just reading on how to inlay, and that makes sense! Thank You Beal!
So, those full fretboard inlays don't have to be that precise, you just need to be able to clean up well, and sand?

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Beal
Posted 2015-05-01 4:04 PM (#509705 - in reply to #509605)
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The good ones make the hole the same size. Look up Larry Robinson on facebook. He's from Connecticut and one of the best. Now with laser c&c machines all the fits are pretty precise. A little different from 40 years ago.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-01 4:22 PM (#509708 - in reply to #509705)
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INCREDIBLE! Thank You Beal!

He is Incredibly Talented!!! I am going to go spend some time looking at his pictures!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-01 5:15 PM (#509711 - in reply to #509705)
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cwk2 - 2015-05-01 4:04 PM

The good ones make the hole the same size. Look up Larry Robinson on facebook. He's from Connecticut and one of the best. Now with laser c&c machines all the fits are pretty precise. A little different from 40 years ago.


WHOA!!!!!!

http://robinsoninlays.com/
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Beal
Posted 2015-05-01 7:57 PM (#509722 - in reply to #509605)
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He grew up in the same town as Laurel and I. I remember him from back then.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-01 8:05 PM (#509724 - in reply to #509722)
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He is the Michaelangelo of Inlay, he takes it to a whole new level!
Thank you for sharing this, I really enjoyed soaking in his Artistry!
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Posted 2015-05-01 8:29 PM (#509725 - in reply to #509724)
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Some do it by hand. I'm not sure how to describe Ervin Somogyi... Luthier doesn't quite do him justice.

http://www.esomogyi.com

 



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Beal
Posted 2015-05-01 8:30 PM (#509726 - in reply to #509605)
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And then there is Grit Laskin.

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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-02 10:25 AM (#509753 - in reply to #509726)
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This neck by Larry Robinson is Phenominal!

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