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Adamas SMT and CVT, what do they stand for, what is the difference?
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Doesn't matter... What you really want is a textured top.
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Thanks Guys!!
Does the SMT have a wood look to it?
It kind of looks like it in the picture.
Are these Adamas II? Or completely separate Models from the I & II's?
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Waskel@Work - 2015-04-20 8:09 PM
Doesn't matter... What you really want is a textured top.
That's what I am getting!!!!  A Beautiful Red One!!!!! Mmmmmmm 1687 Red Goodness!!!!!
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Thanks Guys!!
Does the SMT have a wood look to it?
It kind of looks like it in the picture.
Are these Adamas II? Or completely separate Models from the I & II's?
The SMTs do have a 'woody' look to them, I was told it was due to the CF finishing process. May or may not be true.
They're more like Adamas IIIs, but I think that distinction would have gone to the 'Q' models (there are threads in the archives about them).
Congrats on the 1687 - it's widely believed that the textured tops are (for the most part) sonically superior to the SMT and CVT models. At least until the ME and 2080 models came out. Those are pretty stonkin good, too. |
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Location: moline,illinois | naellis58 - 2015-04-20 8:33 PM
Thanks Guys!!
Does the SMT have a wood look to it?
It kind of looks like it in the picture.
Are these Adamas II? Or completely separate Models from the I & II's?
The SMT has a wood like appearance but prettier,its the unidirectional carbon fiber with a killer laquer finish,if you see a ruby red graphite one it does a color change as the light shifts across it,the SMT and CVT both came after the Adamas I or II and are a totally separate catagory.call it the working man's adamas if you will,the ME is a SMT signature model 12 string made for melissa etheridge.
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Location: Canada | naellis58 - 2015-04-20 7:38 PM That's what I am getting!!!! A Beautiful Red One!!!!! Mmmmmmm 1687 Red Goodness!!!!! You really are on a OA crusade it seems ... congrats. I actually asked the same question anout different tops some time ago and there may be some more info in older threads on the various top compositions and features. As a result I have beeen looking for a 1687 (RI) for some time, but obviously have not been nearly as diligent as you have been in tracking down the goodies. http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=34292&posts=11&start=1
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I have been extremely Blessed by Incredible Friends! Tony has been instrumental in teaching me, and letting me Adopt some of his favorite charges!
Thank you for the link - I will go read it too - there are so many different models, tops, etc, I have allot of catching up to do. Before I just loved the guitar and sound, now that I am learning the history, I want to know it all! A Full Appreciation of everything that went/goes into them. In some small way, it makes it feel like it's okay for me to have a few of the really good ones, when I appreciate and know everything that went into them. Anyone can just buy a guitar, but I want to *know* mine.
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | SOBeach - 2015-04-20 7:35 PM
BanjoJ -I'm not sure what the initials stand for perhaps... SMooth Top and CrossweaVe Top
I got it now!!!
SMT =
Send Me This!
CVT =
Cool! Very Techno!
(And, SMT too!)
Thank You All very much! This has been Very Helpful!!!!!
And now I have seen the "Q" on the FB The Ovation Instruments Page, so I think I am pretty much up to speed on the acronyms!!
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Ok, now I understand it all! Thank You SO much for your help!!
Holy Buckets 2 Wheeldrummer! That is a Beauty!!!! Is it yours??
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Action is High.
Broken headstock.
Looks like a crack in the finish by the low E string near bridge.
Needs the frets leveled or replaced.
Has been ridden hard and put away wet.
You could probably reset the neck yourself.
As well as do a better repair on the headstock.
And live with the booboo on the top.
But there are better guitars to spent $900 on. JMHO.
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Good Lord you are GOOD Arthur!!!!
I used to be able to do that with horses, but I have a long way to go with the Guitars!!
I am not buying for a while, I just like to keep up on what is out there, and see all the different Ovations I have never seen. There is a Traveler on ebay right now, that I have never seen, even on The Ovation Tribute! Really different looking Little Beastie!
But I am going to have you check over anything I see before I buy one if you don't mind? You really helped me on that Patriot/No Box debacle, and I really appreciate that!!
Tony just sent me a picture of my 3 Adoptees that will be coming in soon, so I have to behave myself for a bit! LOL!!! (well, at least where it comes to Guitars!) I think these 3 will keep me very busy for a while, and I can't wait to hear the 2 Adamas in person, I have never heard one in person!!!
And they are SO Gorgeous!! I think the 1719 CL-30 is probably the most Beautiful non-custom order I have ever seen!
My new babies: 1719 CL-30, 1687-2 Adamas, Millenium Adamas CVT (I know what that means now!!!)
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | 2wheeldrummer - 2015-04-24 7:51 PM
OK I'm jealous again,I shouldn't be because i have a couple similar guitars but I had to hunt them down one at a time,Geeeezzzz your a lucky girl.Congrats on the new adoptees,which not so gently used body parts did you sell to get 3 beauties at once LOL
Well it wasn't my top, I only have one left, and the other one, I am afraid that I would have to pay someone to take! And no, I don't walk in circles because of being off balance, I walk in circles because I can't ever remember where I am going!!! LOL!!!
Actually, 2 Model Horses, and my tax return! SO worth it! And the Seller gave me such GREAT Deals!!! I am incredibly fortunate and Blessed!!!
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Tony Calman - 2015-04-30 2:20 PM
Nancy's Millennium, 1687-2, and 30th Anniv arrives tomorrow (Friday) by FedEx. She needs to get her NanCave up and running...
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Location: Sydney, Australia | When my 1680 arrived, SWMBO texted me to tell me it had arrived (I was 50 minutes away playing table tennis). When I got home at 11pm, I ran in going "Where is it? Where is it?". "Where is what?" says SWMBO. "The guitar". "Oh, I was only joking". Then I run around the house looking for a guitar box (seriously, how hard would it be to find something so big). Finally I admit defeat and SWMBO says "Come and have some dinner" then asks me to get something out of the pantry ... And there it was! |
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When my 1680 arrived, SWMBO texted me to tell me it had arrived (I was 50 minutes away playing table tennis). When I got home at 11pm, I ran in going "Where is it? Where is it?". "Where is what?" says SWMBO. "The guitar". "Oh, I was only joking". Then I run around the house looking for a guitar box (seriously, how hard would it be to find something so big). Finally I admit defeat and SWMBO says "Come and have some dinner" then asks me to get something out of the pantry ... And there it was!
LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is GREAT!!!!!! That is SO much fun to do! LOL!!!!!
That is pretty good, you get home at 11pm, and she makes you dinner?? Someone is Loved!
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Nancy, believe me, you don't want to get them all on the same day. You'll be comparing and playing and your head will be spinning. You think you haven't slept waiting for them? You won't sleep at all if they all come at once. You'll have to play every song you know on each guitar and the overload will be too much.
Heck, the most I ever got in one day was two and it was overwhelming. I tried to go to bed but every time my head hit the pillow I thought of something else I needed to play on them. I think it was about 4AM before I finally nodded off.
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That's what I am expecting too! No sleep, constant peeking and playing! LOL!!! And now that the snow is gone, I can go out on the deck at night and play under the stars too!!
I plan to grab them all up and head downstairs - I very wisely did not teach my dogs to do steps (except one), so when I go downstairs, I am all by myself! I am going to turn it into my Nan-Cave, and hang all my new Pretties!!! I have a feeling I will be downstairs ALLOT, which is good, it hasn't been used in a couple years, and is really nice down there (Cedar Woodwork and a nice Fireplace). It will be wonderful to have my own spot, no dogs, no birds, no phones! Just Ovations and Adamas! I may get a dorm fridge to put Mt Dew in, I will never have to go upstairs! |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | naellis58 - 2015-05-01 10:42 AM
(again, not to sound stupid, but what does SWMBO stand for?)
From the FAQ section within the FAQ section:
Q: I keep seeing people write SWMBO, GAS and Mothership in
their posts. What do those mean?
A: SWMBO stands for for She Who Must
Be Obeyed, a term of endearment from our male
participants for their significant others, who often can't
understand why we could possibly need yet another guitar.
Our female participants often refer to their significant others as
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naellis58 - 2015-05-01 10:42 AM
(again, not to sound stupid, but what does SWMBO stand for?)
From the FAQ section within the FAQ section:
Q: I keep seeing people write SWMBO, GAS and Mothership in
their posts. What do those mean?
A: SWMBO stands for for She Who Must
Be Obeyed, a term of endearment from our male
participants for their significant others, who often can't
understand why we could possibly need yet another guitar.
Our female participants often refer to their significant others as
HWMBC (or P ), for He Who Must Be Coddled (or
Pampered ).
HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They ALL just arrived, all 4 of them!!!! HOLY BUCKETS BATMAN!!!!!!
It is going to be a GREAT weekend!!!!!!!
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They are out of the boxes, and decompressing!!!!
The wood tops, will be in theirs for a while yet. But I have plenty to keep me busy until they can come out!!
This is SO EXCITING!!!! I am still a wee bit afraid to touch the 1687-2, it is like a Faberge' Egg to me!
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naellis58 - HOLY BUCKETS BATMAN!!!!!!
Woohoo, it's like Christmas in May!! Have a FUN weekend!
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OK, here's an idea...open just one. Play with it for two hours. THEN open another, play IT for two hours. Repeat the process for all four of them. After that you'll still be up all night anyway. If I didn't have to run the store I'd be out to help you, but alas, you are on your own. |
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Location: closely held secret | CanterburyStrings - 2015-05-01 3:26 PMOK, here's an idea...open just one. Play with it for two hours. THEN open another, play IT for two hours. Repeat the process for all four of them.
Right, like that's gonna happen. Try getting a kid to do that on Christmas...
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Waskel@Work - 2015-05-01 5:36 PM
CanterburyStrings - 2015-05-01 3:26 PMOK, here's an idea...open just one. Play with it for two hours. THEN open another, play IT for two hours. Repeat the process for all four of them.
Right, like that's gonna happen. Try getting a kid to do that on Christmas...
I iz pwaying wif da boxes right now!!! LMBO!!!!!
I am too in AWE to touch these Beauties... Each and every one of them is INCREDIBLE!
There are not too many times I have been at a loss for words over my life, this is one of those times,
I am Honored and Amazed! Tony, you are THE MAN!!!!
There just are not the words to describe these Guitars... they are a Feeling, there just aren't words...
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CanterburyStrings - 2015-05-01 3:26 PMOK, here's an idea...open just one. Play with it for two hours. THEN open another, play IT for two hours. Repeat the process for all four of them.
Right, like that's gonna happen. Try getting a kid to do that on Christmas...
The kids usually would rather play with the boxes! I don't think that's going to be the case with Nancy though.
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You know how you hear those Adamas on YouTube? And you sit there absolutely mesmerized?
That isn't ANYthing like hearing one (or two) in person!! There is NO other sound like this 1687 when you just strum it once, and it goes on, and on, and on!! The clear, bell like quality, with deep bass, and clear, sustaining highs is unlike anything I have ever heard. It is hard to comprehend that this is actually mine, and I can hear this now, anytime I want to! And now that I know what went into it's design and creation I can appreciate it just that much more!
You can hear EVERY note in each chord! I was happy as the dickens with my Custom Balladeers, but this is like driving a Ford (don't give me any grief, I like Fords!), compared to a Rolls Royce!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!! It is very hard to put it down, and even when you do, you can still hear it! It resonates in your ears even after you set it down!
And it is Artistically Beautiful for your eyes too!!! The pictures always made the Red look kind of dull, it is Not!!! The Red is Beautiful, Bright and Vibrant! The carved wood is warm, soft and smooth!
I just can't think of the right words to use, this is an "Experience"!!! Everything about this Guitar is Magical!!!
THANK YOU Tony for making all of this possible!!!!
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First one I got years ago, I was amazed even with old strings. After restringing, I couldn't put it down.
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | LMBO!!! Oh Yeah, poor Nancy! LOL!!!!
I don't know if I could handle this "dilemma" more than once in a Lifetime! LOL!!!
I am in an Adama induced Euphoria that I would like to stay in for a very long time!
No sleep last night, too excited, no sleep tonight, too excited!
Thank You All for sharing this fun with me! You are Wonderful!!!!
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | Here we go!!!
There is an album with separate pictures, but here is a nice Group Shot!
Thank You All for sharing my Excitement, it was an Incredible Day, made even better by sharing it with Friends!!
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?a...
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Now we need comparisons,how does the Nako Clone sound next to the 1719 CM-30?
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | CanterburyStrings - 2015-05-02 1:27 PM
So, just going by your first impression, which one would you keep if you had to give up all the others, based on their acoustic sound?
The 1687-2 hands down! They All Sound Amazing, but that 1687-2 is Phenominal!!! There is just something about the sound, and the sustain on the notes! That is one Hellacious Guitar! They will be prying that one from my cold, dead hands, because I won't let that one go very easily!!! LOL!!!
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Location: Canada | Nancy - 2015-04-20 3:07 PM Can you please explain these two acronyms: Adamas SMT and CVT, what do they stand for, what is the difference? I have tried to find the answers, and looked on Ovation Tribute, but just don't understand what they are. Thank you in advance for your help! I think the SMT and CVT was marketing lingo in the late 90s. More recently post 2010 a few new acronyms have crept up that need explanation. For example: SR or AST - I think that's "Suspension Ring" or "Suspension System" not sure of the difference GT - seems to denote an LX type neck and hand laid fiberglass bowl (therefore lighter weight) NWT - "New Woven Top" may have plywood instead of specified wood (poplar or birch) as core?
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Location: Glendora, CA | ZOWIE !!! Just saw this for the first time.
Congrats Nancy!!!! |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Nancy - 2015-05-03 4:56 AM CanterburyStrings - 2015-05-02 1:27 PM So, just going by your first impression, which one would you keep if you had to give up all the others, based on their acoustic sound? The 1687-2 hands down! They All Sound Amazing, but that 1687-2 is Phenominal!!! There is just something about the sound, and the sustain on the notes! That is one Hellacious Guitar! They will be prying that one from my cold, dead hands, because I won't let that one go very easily!!! LOL!!! Full Moon tonight, I am going out and see what they sound like off the deck, under the moon! Does red sound better you think? |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | TAFKAR - 2015-11-04 6:17 PM
Does red sound better you think?
Naaaaah... But red sure makes 'em purty!!! LOL!!!
Thank you TN, that day was SO MUCH FUN!!!
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